Hafc Install Thread! (mpg Increase?!) (1 Viewer)

[PDoyle]

Ok I know its off topoic but I just got a 1965 Shelby cobra from a customer the guy wants a HAFC installed on and OH MY! this car is amazing it pulls so hard!!! ok so i'm done LOL ill be doing a mileage test thursday night if everything goes to plan.

Get a picture of that one!!!

 

[Kalawang]

Doubtful. Authentic 65 Shelby Cobras sell upwards of $600,000. Authentic 65 Shelby Mustangs sell upwards of $200,000. He said it was a Cobra and I don't think anyone with one of those cares 1 iota about fuel mileage. Hell, they can't even burn pump fuel anyway and NOBODY with an authentic Cobra is daily driving the thing.

-B-

I agree. A genuine Cobra is a race car pretending to be a street car.


Kalawang

 

[SS_Storm]

Yeah its a replica but its awesome
Went out to do an orange test but there was traffic I guess there was an accident or something I could hear tons of sirens Ill try and get one in asap

 

[Riad]

FINALLY I GOT IT TO WORK!!!
I got my wiring to go right. I have re wired my system about 6 times and nothing has worked, I just figured out I had a bad ground.
So Ill tie up loose ends and get you guys a new mileage number asap...

I am still interested to see how your spark plugs look like. It would be even better to be able to see your pistons or in and out side of your head but a high resolution of pix of the plugs should give a clue. I gotta tell ya, I am psyched to hear that you've got it working, now let's see those vids/pix.

 

[SS_Storm]

Cell pic cropped Ill take better once I pull the camera out

 

[PDoyle]

sweet.

 

[CJF]

Great thread!

 

[Buckru]

Where are your mileage numbers and pic installed on the cruiser?
You said you would post it up soon.

Buck

 

[SS_Storm]

Piece of crap stopped working. I am so tired of this lame piggy back setup!!! ive seen this work but for all you nay sayers you win. I cannot get this thing to interface with a 1994 computer. take my advice and do not try it on something pre 96 if you try it.

 

[Ebag333]

Piece of crap stopped working. I am so tired of this lame piggy back setup!!! ive seen this work but for all you nay sayers you win. I cannot get this thing to interface with a 1994 computer. take my advice and do not try it on something pre 96 if you try it.

Couple of questions:

How long did you run it on your 'cruiser (where it was actually effecting the computer/engine)?

Any chance at some piccies of potential damage sign spots (IE: sparkplugs, etc)?

 

[SS_Storm]

it worked for about 1 week, I got 19 mpg on that tank with all city driving but I cannot figure out why it is doing this it keeps destroying computers I have done through 2.

Ill take some pics of the plugs its time for me to tune up anyway.

i

 

[jamisobe]

it worked for about 1 week, I got 19 mpg on that tank with all city driving but I cannot figure out why it is doing this it keeps destroying computers I have done through 2.

Ill take some pics of the plugs its time for me to tune up anyway.

i

Is your ECU frying?

 

[PDoyle]

it worked for about 1 week, I got 19 mpg on that tank with all city driving but I cannot figure out why it is doing this it keeps destroying computers I have done through 2.

Ill take some pics of the plugs its time for me to tune up anyway.

i

Dude, whilte your taking pics of the plugs, lean over the motor and get pics of that cool install. Thanks!!!

 

[landtank]

Safari offered a piggy back with it's turbo units that fried ECUs. Like I posted way back at the beginning, our trucks don't play well with piggy backs.

 

[suprathepeg]

We installed a "smack unit" on my buddies caravan and it worked great innitially netting approx. 20% increase in milage with no piggy back. The only issue he had was the unit getting too hot in his cramped engine bay, this shouldn't be an issue on a cruiser though.

 

[jamisobe]

So let's see - minimal modification to the engine by hating the fuel so the volume expands + a totally BOGUS hydrogen oxygen electrolysis gas generator unit? And you CLAIM a roughly 40% increase in ENGINE EFFICIENCY? ROFLMAO!!

You gain a little bit from expanding the fuel in volume - maybe 2% (the temp isn't NEAR enough to "vaporize" the fuel - you might succeed in getting a bit of the high end volatiles into gas form, but remember - most all systems now are fuel injection and the injectors don't really "like" gas in the lines (can you say "vapor lock"? I knew you could)

Now aside from that - on to the other "snake oil" portion of the "system" - the electrolysis unit.
How does it generate the gases? Simple enough - run a current thru a water bath with electrodes attached to both "plus" and "minus" DC power (12v is enough to do it) BUT - and it's a BIG BUT - HOW MUCH DO YOU GENERATE? (more than that - how much POWER is consumed versus how much is produced by the gas?)

It's ALL BUNK. In order to get much improvement the actual engine DESIGN needs to be changed and let me tell you right now that as it stands, this violates the laws of thermodynamics.


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Totally bogus?

Maybe. But then again, how are we to know that you are an expert and not totally bogus yourself. Have you tried this without success or are you drawing theoretically on your superior knowledge of engineering hydroxy supplemented internal combustion engines for the sole purpose of wanting to be a flamer?

 

[SS_Storm]

Wow lovely person there. I have gotten it to work on many Vehicles and it works amazingly. I dont care how the heck it does it just that it does and I am pretty sure most everyone would agree with me. I have been on the phone with the factory and they have a few ideas for me to try out b4 I call it quits

 

[PDoyle]

Wow lovely person there. I have gotten it to work on many Vehicles and it works amazingly. I dont care how the heck it does it just that it does and I am pretty sure most everyone would agree with me. I have been on the phone with the factory and they have a few ideas for me to try out b4 I call it quits

SS got any pics of the install on the Land cruiser 80?

 

[sleeoffroad]

Safari offered a piggy back with it's turbo units that fried ECUs. Like I posted way back at the beginning, our trucks don't play well with piggy backs.

Rick, that is not correct. The Unichips that were supplied with the Safari units failed due to overheating of the chip itself. They did not fry the truck's ECU's.

 

[landtank]

Rick, that is not correct. The Unichips that were supplied with the Safari units failed due to overheating of the chip itself. They did not fry the truck's ECU's.

sorry, got it backwards, isn't this the same as what SS is seeing?