GX460 & GXOR B.S. thread (17 Viewers)

[Roody]

I keep pushing them further down my list because ATRAC is still enough with the mud tires aired down to 12 psi.

I don't have ATRAC but a) don't want to lean on the computer any more than I already do and b) have found the limits of the truck's grip more times than I can count. More articulation will help (a project that's in the works) but realistically for the mud and rocks we do around here I need to lock the rear and eventually the front.

@Roody I've been eyeballing the Tandem Offroad "locked and loaded" kit for a while. I'm looking around for local, trusted shops that will either order and install the Tandem kit, or put together a very similar setup for similar price (of parts). Might as well do lockers and regear at the same time.

5G 4Runner/GX460/10+ FJ Cruiser Locked And Loaded Kit - Gear and Locke – Tandem Offroad 5G 4Runner/GX460/10+ FJ Cruiser Locked And Loaded Kit - Gear and Locke - https://share.google/5El6bof48kOkSbLAG

I may not go with that exact kit, but I am pretty set on E-lockers for generally reliability/low maintenance vs air lockers.

So it's just gears and lockers for $4,400?

I've got ARB front and rear lockers with the ARB dual air compressor under hood and regeard both diff's for larger tires.
Below will tell you exactly what you need or you can go to my build thread Builds - R²M 2013 GX 460 Overland Build - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/r-m-2013-gx-460-overland-build.1104719/.
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Why'd you go air vs electric?

 

[Hiluxforever]

I don't have ATRAC

All GXs have ATRAC, it kicks in best in 4LO. Brake upgrades make it more effective as does minimizing lift.

 

[Banandalorian]

Don't e-lockers have an issue where if you roll back the locker will disengage? Or was that another platform? I thought the ARBs were the only lockers to stay engaged the entire time (I'm sure i'm confusing two different platforms/products).

Are e-lockers really more reliable? or is this generally a mechanical versus electrical preference? I know most OEM applications are electric, but I've also not heard that air lockers are not as reliable.

From what I have seen, air lockers require regular maintenance on seals and such vs e-lockers you just set and forget.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I kinda want to run a Detroit if I do a rear axle swap.

 

[r2m]

I don't have ATRAC but a) don't want to lean on the computer any more than I already do and b) have found the limits of the truck's grip more times than I can count. More articulation will help (a project that's in the works) but realistically for the mud and rocks we do around here I need to lock the rear and eventually the front.


So it's just gears and lockers for $4,400?


Why'd you go air vs electric?

I wanted the same for both front and rear, and if I remember correctly there were no e-lockers for the front at the time, plus I'd need an air compressor anyways, so why not.
In the 7 years I've had the ARB lockers, I've have not had to change out any seals (yet), and that's with a considerable amount of off road travel, hence my transmission seals needing to be replaced, as I've just written about on my build thread a few moments ago. Builds - R²M 2013 GX 460 Overland Build - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/r-m-2013-gx-460-overland-build.1104719/page-45#post-16004943

 

[Hiluxforever]

There has been issues with newer ARB lockers needing a service a year in.

 

[r2m]

@Roody I've been eyeballing the Tandem Offroad "locked and loaded" kit for a while. I'm looking around for local, trusted shops that will either order and install the Tandem kit, or put together a very similar setup for similar price (of parts). Might as well do lockers and regear at the same time.

5G 4Runner/GX460/10+ FJ Cruiser Locked And Loaded Kit - Gear and Locke – Tandem Offroad 5G 4Runner/GX460/10+ FJ Cruiser Locked And Loaded Kit - Gear and Locke - https://share.google/5El6bof48kOkSbLAG

I may not go with that exact kit, but I am pretty set on E-lockers for generally reliability/low maintenance vs air lockers.

Are there e-lockers for both front and rear now?

 

[r2m]

There has been issues with newer ARB lockers needing a service a year in.

Funny you mention that. I had to have my front ARB locker replace about a year into it. Apparently there were some defective lockers coming out of China that had a certain color ring. I found out I happen to have that locker when show wheeling and could get the front locker to stay locked. The compressor kept coming on trying to lock the front. Went back to YotaWorks, who did all the work and they opened it up, looked at it and confirmed it was a bad locker. They put in a new one, NOT from China, did all the work and didn't cost me a cent other than being without my rig a couple days.

 

[BigSwede]

I have experience with ARB lockers from previous vehicles 10-20 years ago. I did have to pull the third members a couple of times to replace the seals, which is a PITA that an electric locker won't have.

These days I have a rear Eaton e-locker. I didn't install one in the front, so as not to tempt myself to do something stupid

In summary, I would say e-lockers are more reliable as a system, but ARB air lockers are more robust in hard use.

 

[r2m]

I have experience with ARB lockers from previous vehicles 10-20 years ago. I did have to pull the third members a couple of times to replace the seals, which is a PITA that an electric locker won't have.

These days I have a rear Eaton e-locker. I didn't install one in the front, so as not to tempt myself to do something stupid

In summary, I would say e-lockers are more reliable as a system, but ARB air lockers are more robust in hard use.

I too have had my share of lockers on various vehicles.
In my 100 series LC I had TJM air lockers, basically the same as ARB. My old F350 crewcab had ARB's. In our old '89 Toyota pickup, I installed lunchbox lockers myself in both the front and rear. The front was a pain on account of being IFS, but I got 'er done. Those lunchbox lockers worked surprising good. Never have to worry about locking them when I needed them. Yeah, they did, "click, click, click" around every corner and sometimes chirped the rear tires on tight "U" turns.

 

[Banandalorian]

In summary, I would say e-lockers are more reliable as a system, but ARB air lockers are more robust in hard use.

That's what my furious internet scouring says. If I was building a hard-core crawler where driveline tear-downs are regular maintenance then the ARBs would be my pick (or even if the GX was my 3rd car and my garage was big enough to fit it).

Since the GX is my daily and I'm going for something like an OEM++ or GX-Raptor sort of build, I think e-lockers make more sense.

 

[Hiluxforever]

My OEM steelies got some serious rock rash.
Another reason to leave the alloys at home.