GX460 & GXOR B.S. thread (3 Viewers)

[Rednexus]

I tried building an onboard air system, but of late I have become enamored with the simplicity and ease of the M18 inflator, and it is definitely as quick or quicker than anybody I have wheeled with.

I do have a CO2 tank if I want to be really fast.

Come wheeling here in the Ozarks and we can race our compressors afterwards .

I'll film a short YouTube video of mine when it warms up sometime.

CO2 is certainly nice, but there are legit safety concerns with hauling high-pressure gas inside a vehicle.

 

[BigSwede]

Just FYI - I'm afraid to add up how much money I've spent on M18 tools over the past few years, but it's well into the thousands. Love their stuff. I've even splurged on some of the oddball tools like a framing nailer and handheld metal bandswaw.

Yeah, me too. I'm almost tempted to get on of their lawn mowers.

 

[BigSwede]

CO2 is certainly nice, but there are legit safety concerns with hauling high-pressure gas inside a vehicle.

It's not technically high pressure in liquid form. There is an asphyxiation hazard but it's not explosive.

 

[MeefZah]

Have any of you had the rear bumper cover off your GX? I am curious if the US market trucks have the 4 holes in the steel cross member for the pintle hitch.

Pretty much all pintle hitches us a standard 4 bolt square pattern. I'm just interest in the what the provisions on the truck look like. The owners manual says nothing about it. I suppose the holes are hidden by the bumper cover and not useable without hacking the cover.

I have a pintle hitch. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking.... The holes are not in a square layout, more a trapezoid; and they are accessible from the bottom without removing the bumper cover. They go in vertically. Nuts are welded into the frame so there's no need to remove the bumper cover to access the top of the frame.

Are you thinking like a hitch which uses 4 bolts and nuts in a rectangular pattern, and which go horizontally through the rear frame member? This one is from a JLU, for reference:

 

[Hiluxforever]

For the time being i am not going to mount my compressor but I will start mounting air line to fill 4 tires at once.

 

[snowGX460]

All of this air talk has me remembering the AirLift 3P air suspension system on my Audi allroad wagon, though I used it to have dynamic suspension height (and mainly to slam it to the ground for parked steeze with 20" wheels).

I had a tank, manifold, and dual viair 444c compressors in the spare tire well in the cargo area. The compressors kept the tank at about 200psi and each bag corner was around 80-90 psi for my daily driving height / ride comfort. I would slam the car to 0psi when wanting to look cool while parked, and when starting the car back up it would use the tank to get to ~50 psi per corner, the compressors would kick in, fill the tank and the manifold would distribute to each corner as the tank got back up to pressure.

Sounds like a similar setup would work for you all but you'd have to give cargo space to the tank and manifold setup. Plus it would only work when you hooked up to your tires.

 

[Rednexus]

It's not technically high pressure in liquid form. There is an asphyxiation hazard but it's not explosive.

I'd be concerned of it becoming a projectile in the event of a roll-over or other collision that knocks the cylinder off whatever it is attached to.

Don't get me wrong, I haul 40 CF 25% CO2/75% argon cylinders a couple of miles home from the local welding supply store in my GX, but it's not exactly my favorite thing to do. The tank I have now has 1,200 psi in it, after several days of welding. I need to make a mount for my trailer that holds them secure vertically.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I plan on mounting a tank or tanks underneath, probably in the spare tire area. I am planning on kitbashing them from air suspension setups.

Long term I will have some form of air compressors mounted on board as I do plan on getting air lockers, eventually, as well. I am not sold on the dual arb as my solution and am back looking at different options.

I am a Mechanical Engineer by trade so it seems like a fun project to mess with pneumatics.

 

[ericm979]

Got a link to one? I have picked up the tee and valve, but that's maybe $8 in parts. A QC chuck as you described would be preferable.

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Milton makes a similar looking one that looks widely available.

There's a small company called Stedlin that makes what looks like really nice ones but their web site is broken at the moment.

A coupler like these might be useful as it's less stuff to fit in. OTOH a valve and tubing directing the blast away from you might be even better than a safety coupler as far as reducing noise goes.

It's more of an issue with the ARB as it kicks off at 150 psi. I have my shop compressor set up to 90 psi. I suppose I could swap out the pressure switch on the ARB to a 90 next time I have it out for some reason, but it would be nice to just eliminate the issue all together.

Releasing a 150 psi connector would be loud and possibly dangerous, even if the volume is fairly small.

 

[Rednexus]

Thanks. I'll put the valve in my rig and couplers in the shop.

 

[Wildcat Walker]

I have a pintle hitch. I'm not sure exactly what you're asking.... The holes are not in a square layout, more a trapezoid; and they are accessible from the bottom without removing the bumper cover. They go in vertically. Nuts are welded into the frame so there's no need to remove the bumper cover to access the top of the frame.

Are you thinking like a hitch which uses 4 bolts and nuts in a rectangular pattern, and which go horizontally through the rear frame member? This one is from a JLU, for reference:

I'm thinking maybe some aren't aware that there even is a provision for the pintle. Here is an image of the proper hitch and a similar hitch on a Prado. Since the GX is made at Tahara like the rest of the cruisers, all I want to know is if the US market trucks have the bolt holes. I already have an OEM receiver hitch that I installed.

 

[MeefZah]

I'm thinking maybe some aren't aware that there even is a provision for the pintle. Here is an image of the proper hitch and a similar hitch on a Prado. Since the GX is made at Tahara like the rest of the cruisers, all I want to know ow is if the US market trucks have the bolt holes. I already have an OEM receiver hitch that I installed.

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I guess I've been referring to what I called a "pintle" by the wrong descriptor. I have always thought there was the full hitch that mounts to frame rails, and the "light duty" hitch that mounts to the cross member! and somehow I had associated the smaller hitch with being a pintle. Now that I see your image, I get it. Sorry for muddying the waters with my response.

 

[Wildcat Walker]

I guess I've been referring to what I called a "pintle" by the wrong descriptor. I have always thought there was the full hitch that mounts to frame rails, and the "light duty" hitch that mounts to the cross member! and somehow I had associated the smaller hitch with being a pintle. Now that I see your image, I get it. Sorry for muddying the waters with my response.

No worries. Note that your receiver hitch is not matched to the trucks published capacity (with trailer brakes, 6500lbs). There are a lot of hitches on the market that utilize the fastener holes in your picture, and they do work for smaller loads. I negotiated the OEM hitch (PT228-60141)
into the deal when I bought my GX. It spreads the load over to the frame rails and reinforces the back of the truck substantially. Some day, when my GX is older I'll use it more for offroad adventures and may use a pintle setup at that time (better ground clearance). I wonder if the foreign market trucks have a section in the owners manual about the capacities using the pintle.

 

[MeefZah]

Note that your receiver hitch is not matched to the trucks published capacity (with trailer brakes, 6500lbs). There are a lot of hitches on the market that utilize the fastener holes in your picture, and they do work for smaller loads.

FWIW I only use it for light utility trailer towing of yard debris, a motorycle, that sort of thing. Also the infrequent recovery / tow using a strap over the pin. Light duty stuff.

 

[Wildcat Walker]

FWIW I only use it for light utility trailer towing of yard debris, a motorycle, that sort of thing. Also the infrequent recovery / tow using a strap over the pin. Light duty stuff.

I was shopping for a boat last season and had a guy tell me my 23' GX wouldn't pull his SeaRay 240 Select boat. He was obviously one of the Super Duty F350, Duramax, or Cummins types. I knew full well what the capacity of my GX was and the associated weights of truck and his boat (boat 4500lbs plus trailer). He flat out told me I would break down and wouldn't make the journey home if I came to buy his boat. I explained to him I wasn't worried at all and that if something were to happen that the truck was under a full factory warranty. After that he exclaimed "oh it's a new one, it will probably pull it then". It's funny how most diesel truck owners #1 don't need a diesel truck and never haul loads requiring such equipment, and #2 don't realize that there are other perfectly capable vehicles on the highway to perform most towing tasks. Am I going to pull and safely stop a 15,000 lb excavator, probably not, but I also have no need to.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I was shopping for a boat last season and had a guy tell me my 23' GX wouldn't pull his SeaRay 240 Select boat. He was obviously one of the Super Duty F350, Duramax, or Cummins types. I knew full well what the capacity of my GX was and the associated weights of truck and his boat (boat 4500lbs plus trailer). He flat out told me I would break down and wouldn't make the journey home if I came to buy his boat. I explained to him I wasn't worried at all and that if something were to happen that the truck was under a full factory warranty. After that he exclaimed "oh it's a new one, it will probably pull it then". It's funny how most diesel truck owners #1 don't need a diesel truck and never haul loads requiring such equipment, and #2 don't realize that there are other perfectly capable vehicles on the highway to perform most towing tasks. Am I going to pull and safely stop a 15,000 lb excavator, probably not, but I also have no need to.

Yea, they are compensating.

 

[Rednexus]

I was shopping for a boat last season and had a guy tell me my 23' GX wouldn't pull his SeaRay 240 Select boat. He was obviously one of the Super Duty F350, Duramax, or Cummins types. I knew full well what the capacity of my GX was and the associated weights of truck and his boat (boat 4500lbs plus trailer). He flat out told me I would break down and wouldn't make the journey home if I came to buy his boat. I explained to him I wasn't worried at all and that if something were to happen that the truck was under a full factory warranty. After that he exclaimed "oh it's a new one, it will probably pull it then". It's funny how most diesel truck owners #1 don't need a diesel truck and never haul loads requiring such equipment, and #2 don't realize that there are other perfectly capable vehicles on the highway to perform most towing tasks. Am I going to pull and safely stop a 15,000 lb excavator, probably not, but I also have no need to.

Per previous posts I've made lately, I tow lots of things with my GX. Camper, enclosed trailer weighing around 5K loaded for moving, flatbed trailer loaded with 2K of lumber, etc. The flatbeds and enclosed trailers are rented locally - have definitely gotten some odd looks and comments from the rental guys (which, BTW, love my rig). Lexus rated these rigs at 6,500# following their own and other applicable standards - it's an actual and true rating on what they will tow.

The rig tows all of these trailers just fine. It's completely capable and safe as long as you aren't trying to tow something 80 mph. Modern diesel HD trucks are huge, crazy-expensive, unreliable, vehicles that are maintenance nightmares. No thanks. I'll deal with towing smaller things and towing them a bit slower with my GX.

 

[Arailt]

I guess I've been referring to what I called a "pintle" by the wrong descriptor. I have always thought there was the full hitch that mounts to frame rails, and the "light duty" hitch that mounts to the cross member! and somehow I had associated the smaller hitch with being a pintle. Now that I see your image, I get it. Sorry for muddying the waters with my response.

You're not wrong. Toyota refers to their light duty hitch that mounts to the cross member as a pintle hitch.

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2003-2024 Toyota 4Runner Tube Sub-Assembly Pintl 51909-35011

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I had one on my 470.

And yes, @Wildcat Walker, NA GXs have the four horizontal mounting points on the rear cross member.

 

[MeefZah]

Mini trip report:

Drove 8 hours round trip to Kalamazoo MI to pick up my new bumper from Victory 4x4.

Awesome shop, awesome guys. ***kin BA trucks sitting everywhere.

 

[MeefZah]

Continued from above

Bumper looks amazing and I can't wait to start cutting!

Plus free swag!! And a tour (no tour pics).

Dinner at Albion Malleable in downtown Albion MI. Awesome!!