Group 27 battery too big for HJ60?

[markthemenace]

Hi guys, I just broke the batteries on my HJ 60. I had to remove them (plus fan shround, plus aircon condenser, plus dryer, plus fan, plus belt) to remove the radiator for repair (it had sprung a leak).

Anyways, to make a long story short, I know that the terminals had some arcing within them, and were somewhat corroded. In my usual gorilla fashion, I yanked and twisted at one of the terminals a little too enthusiastically and...pulled the whole thing out. Damn, never knew that post was that long hahaha!

Anyways, after much calling around, I found that the best bet for a pair of batteries was the Nautilus brand from Cndn Tire, which were $114 each. And from searching on 'Mud, i KNEW that the correct size was Group 27.

Problem is, how the heck do you secure them down? The hold-down on the coolant reservoir side has literally just a few threads in and I had to use a carriage bolt and nut config to hold the other side down. And then the air cleaner side...geez, same problem.

And looking across the top of the car from fender to fender, it seems that these batteries are so high, they must be touching the hood!! Yikes! Am I missing something here? Perhaps I should've gone with the Group 24s instead...damn, they were only $109 each I think.

 

[Biche]

I've purchased group 27 from Walmart couple year ago, they fit very well and the tie down have lots of thread. I just found that the posts are close to the hood when everything is connected. Maybe next time I'll try to find inverted post so I have more room.

Did you have some kind of extrusion in the middle of the battery top that tie down have to go over?

 

[markthemenace]

I've purchased group 27 from Walmart couple year ago, they fit very well and the tie down have lots of thread. I just found that the posts are close to the hood when everything is connected. Maybe next time I'll try to find inverted post so I have more room.

Did you have some kind of extrusion in the middle of the battery top that tie down have to go over?

No, the battery top is perfectly flat. It has a "suitcase" type handle in the middle, but if folds away flat to the surface. According to Cndn Tire site, the size is:

12 (L) x 6-13/16 (W) x 9-7/16" (H) (30 x 17 x 24 cm)

I had considered getting the Group 24, but the height was even more at 10-1/4 (L) x 6-13/16 (W) x 9-7/16" (H) (30 x 17 x 26 cm)

I had trouble closing my bonnet last night, but managed to slam it down finally. But since I did the radiator, maybe that's caused by the aircon hoses standing a little proud of the fan shroud.

Looking at the tops of the battery posts from one fender to the next, they look to be almost the same height as the radiator cap...so I guess that means they don't touch.

But for some reason, I cannot get the hold downs tight! I've looked at the parts pictures, and it appears that my hold downs are the stock ones, which means they should fit Group 27 batteries. MIght have to fashion my own.

The thing is...what're the other HJ60 owners doing with their group 27s? Perhaps the Cndn Tire one just happens to be slightly larger. I'd say at least 3 cm too tall~!!

 

[hj 60]

Hi I use these:

12 Volt, 91 ampere, 306 length x 173 wide x 222 high mm
+ - radiator + -
Front of landcruiser

 

[Biche]

I use these from Walmart. I don't know the dimensions.

 

[markthemenace]

I use these from Walmart. I don't know the dimensions.

That explains it Gabriel. The size of that battery is :

12.25 X 6.875 X 8.8125 inches (311.15 X 174.62 X 223.8 mm)

That's almost a full inch shorter and 4 mm less deep than the Nautilius. I guess not all Grp 27s are exactly the same! I've already got some aluminium to make custom hold downs with. My wife just called just now to tell me the dash lights suddenly came on whilst she was driving, for about 5 seconds or so, and then went off. She just continued driving. I guess something's shorted out eh...ignorance is bliss.