Greetings and wheel question BJ60 -> HDJ81

[83bj60]

the cruiser sure helped me on my recovery. i do get the odd nerve feelings at times which overall is a blessing in disguise. it will be nice again to have your opinion on questions called upon by the cruiser community.

Be well and thanks for your appreciation, man, hope to deserve it

 

[crushers]

And don't bash my importer, not everybody has your experience, he doesn't know everything but he's a true enthusiast and has worked hard to make it happen, I couldn't have done it without him

About the BEB:

So... I don'want to say I don't need to do the BEB, but it sure looks and sounds like it doesn't need it at all, at least for now...

Should I want to do the job, is there a good source at a decent price here in Canada? I have a buddy in OZ who could easily get me parts cheap, as long as I am willing to deal with the excruciatingly slow delivery delays...

Yes, most probably, I used to be on the DTLC for years, Wayne

And thank you for your input, as always it's very appreciated

Chris

Chris,
DO the BEB as soon as it arrives. you can get the bearings from Dan at 4wheel auto for $65
You got the truck you wanted, that is all that matters but your importer needs to do a bit more research before quoting rumours as fact.

i thought you sounded familure, welcome to the new diesel list.

cheers and congrates on your new rig.

 

[83bj60]

Chris,
DO the BEB as soon as it arrives. you can get the bearings from Dan at 4wheel auto for $65.

OK, not that bad... I saw it for $22 in OZ but shipping delays are the killers here.

As for the BEB, how many at LOW MILES did you see have an ACTUAL PROBLEM with the BEB once you took them apart? This truck looks like it never left the pavement and mostly stayed in a garage... I got to have all the maintenance records translated to figure ou what it had done on it... Anyone here had that done?

I know you seem to think it's urgent to replace the BEB and you even make it sound easy as pie and I appreciate it - sounds like it's a manufacturing defect the way you put it, not a wear issue - I'm just trying to get a feel for how URGENT it is to do. I'd be more inclined to replace the timing belt first, saw how much damage the failure of an old belt can do, than opening up the engine and risk problems later due to improper torquing and such. It's just that I never did this, would like to have a better idea of what it involves... Remember I don't have any documents nor any manuals at this time (ordered a Max Ellery Manual that I should be getting at some point)

Also the old 3B engine in my 60, after 600,000 km, never had to be opened up, not even to adjust valves. I only had to replace two glow plugs once on it, the water pump recently and that was it. Are these 1HD-Ts that finicky? And what about the transmission?

So thank you for your advice, I just need to learn more, keep it coming

Chris

 

[83bj60]

I'm a new father!!!

The Landcruiser is in my driveway!

Drove it home tonight, went without a problem. The only thing that has me concerned at this point is the seemingly very low oil pressure on the gauge in the dash (oil level is fine, duh!). The engine doesn't seem to mind, though, it sounds fine, except during the first few seconds after starting, a bit of a tick from a valve I presume. Goes away in a couple of seconds.

The drive was uneventful otherwise. I was nervous in rush hour traffic but once on the highway, it was great. I din't push it too much, had just a few seconds run at 120kph, then drove quite sedately for the last few km. I guess some kind of maintenance is in order, because I could feel it really didn't want to go much faster. I've also noticed the transmission in D doesn't seem to really want to kick down, is that normal?

I've got plenty of paperwork in Japanese, anybody game to translate? I can't make head or tails from the maintenance or inspection papers that came with the truck.

I'll do more checking tomorrow, will defintely order some BEBs as this low oil pressure indicator (no red light in the dash though) has me worried a bit. As for the oil it's very clean, noithing like my old 3B. The difference is remarkable! the tranny oil is super clean as well. It's showroom quality under the hood, and for the inspection the mechanics were so impressed they didn't want to put it on the lift for fear of scratching the beautiful frame coating (with the salt we have here, any scratch is an invitation for rust to start!)

I'm going to stop here before I go gaga!!!

 

[dieseldan]

If you're doing your BEB's my understanding is the Ozzie ones are better to have put in if you can source them.

 

[83bj60]

BEB, Oil filters and Oil...

If you're doing your BEB's my understanding is the Ozzie ones are better to have put in if you can source them.

Aren't those the ACLs that Wayne and others are installing? I'm still looking. I've spent a couple of hours trying to find oil filters around here, no luck. No reference at all at Crappy Tire. I'll try the big city this weekend.

What's a good oil available at Crappy Tire or Walmart for this motor considering the fact it's Japanese Spec? Is the Tech 2000 diesel oil Wally is selling decent? Or should I go with the 0W40 synthetic Diesel Rotella T SB?

Your opinions are of course not only welcome, but encouraged!

BTW I spent a couple of hours on bob's the oil guy forums and haven't learned much that I didn't already know... I have a couple of jugs or Mobil 1 15W50 that I think would do well for summer, I'm just not sure waht to use for winter at this point...

 

[dieseldan]

I'm running Amzoil 15/40 Synthetic

 

[83bj60]

I'm running Amzoil 15/40 Synthetic

Did you notice an improvement in performance, quietness or improved fuel consumption and oil pressure when you switched to this oil, or is your choice purely because of Amsoil's formula, which is supposed to be the closest to Japanese diesel engine oil?

Where do you get it in Canada and how much does it cost? What type of driving? What temperature conditions? How long between oil changes?

Don't be shy to elaborate!

Christophe

 

[dieseldan]

well I think the Rotella would do you just fine too. I have no way of knowing what the P.O. ran for oil in this truck but Amsoil was recommended as a better year round product to run. More than half of the fluids in this rig are their products - most are very pricey like tranny fluid (but good for 70,000miles). And I'm topping up each tank with Kleenflo treatments. The amsoil dist. are scattered everywhere and happens to be one on my block.. changes are recommended for 10,000km but if you exceed that then a filter swap out is ok for a while longer depending on what kind of driving your doing.

REally worthwile to flush every fluid/filter changes you can and start fresh - tranny, cooling system, fuel tank if you can - but I'm sure this is all obvious stuff. This wasn't done on my last jdm and it's cost me dearly now. (toss in some gauges)

I'll keep following your mileage reports as i'm curious to compare also.. been getting around 600km a tank but lots of off road and running big tires.. I didn't tweak my fuel pressure settings but others have been doing this and seem happy with the results. am i making a meandering thread??

 

[83bj60]

well I think the Rotella would do you just fine too. I have no way of knowing what the P.O. ran for oil in this truck but Amsoil was recommended as a better year round product to run. More than half of the fluids in this rig are their products - most are very pricey like tranny fluid (but good for 70,000miles). And I'm topping up each tank with Kleenflo treatments. The amsoil dist. are scattered everywhere and happens to be one on my block.. changes are recommended for 10,000km but if you exceed that then a filter swap out is ok for a while longer depending on what kind of driving your doing.

REally worthwile to flush every fluid/filter changes you can and start fresh - tranny, cooling system, fuel tank if you can - but I'm sure this is all obvious stuff. This wasn't done on my last jdm and it's cost me dearly now. (toss in some gauges)

Yes, better safe than sorry! I'm investigating Rotella as well. Amsoil is nowhere to be found in my parts. Most stores don't even carry any decent diesel oil. In Quebec, nobody seems to know anything about these vehicles. BC in comparison probably has the greatest number of JDMs per capita in the country, Quebec probably the least. How many times have I been told this week 'why did you go to all that trouble? Nothing good enough for you here?' To which I answer: No indeed, nothing good enough!... Makes me look like a snob...

I've been looking for rims for a week now and every day I ask around, no one even garages seem to be able to help. 'Sorry it's not listed' (Muttering to self: 'Of course, I told you so'), 'I need 16"x7"x3.5" offset rims, 6 hole 5.5 stud diameter' 'Sorry if I don't have a vehicle brand and model I can't help you!'

I'll keep following your mileage reports as i'm curious to compare also.. been getting around 600km a tank but lots of off road and running big tires

If I was getting that I'd be happy. I tanked 75l after 500 km yesterday. That was driving pretty spiritedly, I admit...

I didn't tweak my fuel pressure settings but others have been doing this and seem happy with the results. am i making a meandering thread??

Here are some numbers: (285/75R16 tires, figures adjusted for 5% larger than stock wheel diameter):
energetic driving, 10 to 30 km runs from cold, ambient temps just above 0C: 15l/100 (!!!).
Nice and easy (mostly highway at 95kph), 12l/100

Thanks for your input Dieseldan, I will be posting some more as new threads about the transmission, engine RPMs at what speed, cruise control and air conditioning and I will be starting a new thread about rims as well, hopefully in the proper forums.

Chris

 

[lshobie]

There is alot of information about rims on the 80 series forum, did you check there? What rims are you looking for, anything specific? There are tons available - afterall it is an 80 series and there are gazillions of them in the US.

Regards,

 

[83bj60]

There is alot of information about rims on the 80 series forum, did you check there? What rims are you looking for, anything specific? There are tons available - afterall it is an 80 series and there are gazillions of them in the US.

Regards,

All the 16" rims I've been looking at are alloys and are AT LEAST 8" wide. The ones I've looked at on US 80s (we do have part numbers for them in Canada) are 8" or more wide in 16" size. I have looked at something that would perhaps fit for a four runner (or was it a pickup?) that has the same bolt pattern, in 16" steel which I presume would be less than 8" wide, but the parts man at the store I asked about it hasn't come back to me on this. It's very frustrating. Even wheel manufacturers don't specify rim width, never mind asking them for the offset!

The unfortunate thing is there isn't much in tall and wide anymore, which are in my experience the best tires for road use, especially in winter. My best tires were super narrow Michelins, they were 6" or so wide at the tread, gave excellent control and excellent, really excellent fuel economy (34 MPG at 90kph on my old BJ60!). Unfortunately, they are not available anymore.

I really don't understand why everyone wants to go super wide. Seems like most manufacturers don't even consider there are many of us that have to drive on poorly cleaned roads with snow, slush and ice for months on end and NEED tiires that will reach under to that hard firm surface.

I need my skinny rims

BTW, I have looked and looked and looked for hours last week. No one seems to be making stainless steel wheels for automotive applications, only for bikes! Go figure!

I guess you can put it on the account that everything manufactured in north america shall not last too long, else people won't have to replace them after a few years. The economy of waste. Ain't that typical.

Ishobie, please don't take my ranting bad mood personally. I do appreciate your help, thank you!

Chris

 

[lshobie]

It's no problem at all, but som eof the questions hould be easily answered by your importer. Ask them, they can probabaly help you.

Regards,

 

[83bj60]

It's no problem at all, but som eof the questions hould be easily answered by your importer. Ask them, they can probabaly help you.

Regards,

Well he's not a Landcruiser maniac, but he loves Japanese cars. He's imported over 40 so far, Skylines, Hiluxes, Hiaces, LT somethings (long bed pickups), Safaris, Supras, Sylvias, I believe my HDJ81 was his first of that series he's imported. He currently drives a Nissan Safari/Patrol which he says is extremely thrifty (10l/100). It's very, very nice with 7 seats and a high roof, and he's fitting an HDJ61 for 'expeditions'. That monster is really, really high off the ground... I figure it's about 8 feet tall, sprung over, stainless steel exhaust, etc, etc... Not my kind of truck, but I'm sure it would be great on the trail He also owns a biturbo Skyline that he races. Extremely fast and impressive vehicle...

Anyway, like I said, he doesn't know that much about cruisers yet. There are very few of us into JDMs east of the Ottawa River!

Best Regards,
Chris