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Two more misunderstood pits...Chihuahua dies protecting Richmond family against two pit bulls | abc7news.com

RICHMOND, CA (KGO) -- Two pit bulls burst into a family's one-bedroom apartment in Richmond Sunday afternoon. ABC7 first learned about this amazing story from our media partners at the Bay Area News Group.

It was a frightening moment for Mayda Estrella, her 4-year-old son and 22-day-old son. Luckily her little Chihuahua was there when two pit bulls stormed the family's home.

Estrella says they were having a barbeque outside and she had the door open when the dogs rushed in. She ran into the bedroom with her baby, grabbed the remote control and wacked one pit bull over the head.

Her 4-year-old son, Brian, jumped on his bed and as the other pit bull moved toward him, the family's Chihuahua, named Manchas, jumped in between the boy and the pit bull.

"And the dog just looked at Brian and just [took] the dog," said Estrella.

Animal control officers found Manchas dead, nearby. The pit bulls ran back to their home where the owner, who did not want to speak on camera, tells ABC7 they escaped by chewing a hole through their wood fence while he was away.

"Those dogs were followed to the residence," said Dan Barrett from Contra the Costa County Animal Control.

Animal control says the dogs, named Jade and Beast, are now subject to the dangerous animal ordinance. The owner says he is not going to appeal, which means the fate of the dogs is now in the hands of animal control.

When asked if the pit bulls needed to be euthanized because of what they did, Barrett said, "That would be my recommendation."

Estrella says it all happened within 10 seconds, but looking back, she believes Manchas may have saved her son's life. The owner of the pit bulls is not facing any criminal charges, but under the dangerous animal ordinance, he could be restricted from owning pit bulls in the future.
 
I feel bad for the animals. They were bred to do a certain thing that makes them dangerous or anachronistic in present society, and don't have any control over certain impulses. It is a shame that perfectly good animals can be so situated.
 
Pitbulls are owned too easily. Theres nothing wrong with having them if they are kept in the proper environment. In my opinion they should not be kept around kids, and need to be somewhere that they cannot escape. Would you keep a lion in your backyard only surrounded by a cedar fence? Not the best comparison, but pits can do serious damage, and most of the people that want to own dangerous dogs dont give a s*** what they do. Also, most of those dogs are mistreated by their crackhead owners that shouldnt be allowed to have dogs, kids too for that matter. I feel sorry for the dogs, and the kids.
 
As for the original question in this thread, labs are great for kids. I have a chocolate lab that wouldnt hurt a fly, well maybe eat a fly, they eat anything. My wifes yorkie tells my lab what to do.
 
Sounds like you want a breed that is gentle but has guarding in it's blood. Greater Swiss Mountain Dog. They are used to guard herds from predators and they have a natural love for children. They also pull carts or sleighs. Our male likes to ride the tobaggan with the kids. We live in a place where Elk, Cougars, Bear and deer all walk freely around town. I feel safer with a big dog than with a small dog.
 
I like Border Collies, Have two of them, and though they're a little wild, they're smart, protective, and fun. On more than one occasion when they saw something that spooked 'em on my hikes, they've tried to "herd" me away from the percieved danger. A great feature if you want a dog-beast that'll look out for you and yours.
 
I'd have to say go w/a Rottweiler there loyal scare the **** out of everyone & great w/kids.
Here's my boy & his Rottie. She sleeps w/him every night & if he's outside she is bye his side all the time. i dont worry much when she's around.
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Decided to put my 2 cents in

One thing that NO ONE has mentioned is that you are all talking about breeds and such, but the breed is just a "usually" behaves like and looks like this...

Just like people, each dog is an individual. I have a jack russell terrier. Most of you will say little, hyper, non stop barking, little ankle biter.

WELL, my dog doesn't follow the entire stereotype. He normally sleeps with me all day and his favorite napping spot is on the carpet in the sun. It doesn't take too much to get him worked up, just one or two bounces of the ball and all he wants to do for hours is play. He doesn't bark like most terriers. He will only bark when someone knocks on the door or makes a sharp, loud noise. I am able to walk around town with him following me off leash.

BUT, it does have a lot to do with the owner. I am the only one my dog will follow without the leash, no one else in the family can do it. I don't recommend JRTs unless your children are old enough to know that they can't pull on ears or tails. They won't take hits like that and will defend themselves.

Those are the pros and cons of my jack russell, Bill. Bill is an individual. My neighbor has one and their dog is completely and utterly different. No two dogs are the same. Why do we put this on the truck thread but not on this one?

your mileage may AND WILL vary

You pick the puppy. You can usually tell the temperment of what the dog will be like if you see how it behaves with the litter. The dog that runs right up to you will probably be more outgoing and dominating. The dog that runs away and hides will be shy and scared. The dog that just goes with the flow will most likely grow up to go with the flow.

anyways, here is Bill

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One overlooked breed that makes a great family dog is the Standard Poodle. I've owned them ever since I was a kid. My parents got my brother and I one because my brother had bad dog allergies, poodles are hypo allergenic.

Of course you have to be able to get past the poofster image that poodles have. Up until WWII Standards were the most popular hunting breed in America. They were also used extensively as police and military guard dogs. All of mine have been pretty rough and tumble pooches but I've seen a few that were sissies. It's pretty much how you raise them. The smallest Standard I've owned was around 65# the largest was 95#, any of them could spend the night outside in a blizzard. They were bred for hunting, as upland game and water retrievers. My dog will swim all day if you let him, I've never hunted him but he goes ape s*** when we get into chukar areas.

They are incredibly gentle with kids and smaller dogs but can scare the hell out of a full grown man when they get their back up. Also extremely good house dogs, they don't shed and any of mine would rather explode than make a mess in the house. From what other owners have told me this is typical of the breed. The down side is they require regular grooming, I consider this a wash since we never have to clean dog hair off of anything.
 
One overlooked breed that makes a great family dog is the Standard Poodle. I've owned them ever since I was a kid. My parents got my brother and I one because my brother had bad dog allergies, poodles are hypo allergenic.

Of course you have to be able to get past the poofster image that poodles have. Up until WWII Standards were the most popular hunting breed in America. They were also used extensively as police and military guard dogs. All of mine have been pretty rough and tumble pooches but I've seen a few that were sissies. It's pretty much how you raise them. The smallest Standard I've owned was around 65# the largest was 95#, any of them could spend the night outside in a blizzard. They were bred for hunting, as upland game and water retrievers. My dog will swim all day if you let him, I've never hunted him but he goes ape s*** when we get into chukar areas.

They are incredibly gentle with kids and smaller dogs but can scare the hell out of a full grown man when they get their back up. Also extremely good house dogs, they don't shed and any of mine would rather explode than make a mess in the house. From what other owners have told me this is typical of the breed. The down side is they require regular grooming, I consider this a wash since we never have to clean dog hair off of anything.



thanks for that information... see post #37 in this thread...
 
No dobermans in this thread? WTF? Best breed ever. Friendly, yet protective when necessary. Size-adjustable by selecting parents.

Syd is 65lbs. Stella, who you will likely meet in Nov will be a bit bigger, maybe as much as 80 lbs.

Mud price is great since I'm married to the breeder's sister.

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And a blue, though I don't like the cropped ears:

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We have a ridgeback/coonhound cross and although she does train well, she is crazy when it comes to cats/rabbits etc - anything outside. Keep in mind.....hound dogs bay when they see something they want to chase and they are single-minded when it comes to tracking whatever that thing is down. She is good with the kids though.....tolerates quite alot.

We also have a ridgeback/shepard cross and he is lovely. He was 6 and a half when he met my kids, so it took awhile for him to warm to them, but he's ok with the grabbing and mauling now.

We also have a min-pin/shelty cross. Pain in the ***. But cute...so she's lucky.

My sister has an Australian Kelpie - only 5 months old and the best behaved dog you could ever hope to meet. Absolutely fantastic with the kids. The only thing I worry about is her trying to herd them when they/she get bigger......sometimes they can bite if they think that what they are trying to herd isn't responding properly.

Generally, if you get the dog young enough, you should be okay with most breeds.

Anyone have a opinion on Chesapeake Bay retrievers or Coonhounds?
 
Are you still trying to feed that kid dog. I know times are tough, but maybe some pasta or rice would suffice.
 
thanks for that information... see post #37 in this thread...
Nice looking dog in that post.

FWIW my groomer insist that the solid black STD.'s have the best disposition. She specializes in Std Poodles and sees a lot of them.

The show cut people think looks sissy was actually their working cut. Their fur has oils on it that shed water, the mane around the shoulders acts as floatation because the combination of oil and curly hair traps air. It also keeps them warm when they are in and out of the water all day. The flanks are shaved for better movement when swimming, the pompoms at the joints were supposed to keep them (the joints) warm.


We keep Jake in a "Kennel cut" pretty much one length all over with longer hair on the head and tail. He lives in the house with us but we all spend a lot of time out side. The short hair carries less dirt, twigs etc. into the house.
 
No dobermans in this thread? WTF? Best breed ever. Friendly, yet protective when necessary. Size-adjustable by selecting parents.

Syd is 65lbs. Stella, who you will likely meet in Nov will be a bit bigger, maybe as much as 80 lbs.

Mud price is great since I'm married to the breeder's sister.

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And a blue, though I don't like the cropped ears:

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What's mud price?
 
Poncho just turned 1...now about 80 lbs

Forgot to mention he sounds like kujo to those who walk past our house late at night.
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