FRBv2 (Frame Recovery Bracket version 2)

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I can go take a look at Rusty's 100 to verify...but my FRBv2 is just slightly taller therefore better concerning the potential bumper interference compared to the OEM tie down bracket that is already mounted in the same location.

So if someone wants to know just take a look at your current tow point with a 7/8" bow/D shackle attached with string or winch line to see what angle causes interference. And no I'm NOT referring to the goofy "J" tie down hook on the passenger side (all you guys removed that POS right??!!)...but rather the tie down anchor on the driver's side...

Dan



good, but hopefully folks don't use tiedowns for serious recoveries, right?
 
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good, but hopefully folks don't use tiedowns for serious recoveries, right?

More than you'd probably know.


I can't stress this enough to everyone: Get Bill Burke's "Getting Unstuck" DVD and watch it several times. And get the Rigging Handbook by Jerry A. Klinke...and read it cover to cover!!! These are the minimum you should do to bring your level of knowledge about rigging equipment and proper recovery up a notch or three! And they are affordable and an easy place to start!

Your/mine/other's lives are just too damn important to assume any casual sense when it comes to the potential lethality of getting unstuck. The time to get familiar with this stuff IS NOT DURING YOUR FIRST RECOVERY EVENT.

The other very important thing to realize: All recovery equipment wears out. Some of it from repeated use/abuse and some of it from just being in the elements.

Rant over.
 
Do these interfere with skid plates at all?

It doesn't on my Rasta front skid...ditto for Slee's. I'd be surprised if it interferes with other skids including OEM.
 
Got mine a few days ago. Excellent finish. I'm going to try to find some time between packing boxes tonight to get it installed.
 
got mine on, they are dead sexy.
 
Quick question: Does anyone else's washer not sit flush against the bracket when the bolt is all the way in?
I was just looking at mine (installing tomorrow) and washer sits slightly on the parts that starts to turn 90* and causes it to just sit slightly at an angle (sits up about 1mm). I just plan to take the washer and put it on a bench grinder to get a small bevel so it sits flush, just seeing if anyone else's is like this.
 
Quick question: Does anyone else's washer not sit flush against the bracket when the bolt is all the way in?
I was just looking at mine (installing tomorrow) and washer sits slightly on the parts that starts to turn 90* and causes it to just sit slightly at an angle (sits up about 1mm). I just plan to take the washer and put it on a bench grinder to get a small bevel so it sits flush, just seeing if anyone else's is like this.

There is a slight interference as you noticed; however once torqued the washer will conform to the radius of the FRBv2. Its the slight compromise of trying to get as much strength packaged into a 'one size fits all' product.
 
There is a slight interference as you noticed; however once torqued the washer will conform to the radius of the FRBv2. Its the slight compromise of trying to get as much strength packaged into a 'one size fits all' product.

Ah, thats what i figured.
One more thing:

What would be the preference for the orientation of the bracket with the vertical portion to the outside, or inside of the vehicle. My guess would be towards the outside as it would distribute the force better.
 
IIRC you pulled me out of a creek bed outside Austin using one of the factory tie downs.:flipoff2:

Not the J hook but the other tie down bracket. In the beginning that is what I used also but its bent to all get out now :rolleyes:

Progress :flipoff2:
 
Ah, thats what i figured.
One more thing:

What would be the preference for the orientation of the bracket with the vertical portion to the outside, or inside of the vehicle. My guess would be towards the outside as it would distribute the force better.

I'll have to defer to an engineer. If I had to guess I wouldn't think there would be an appreciable difference regarding whether the vertical portion is mounted to the inside or outside; might even favor the inside mounted position! This assumes straight line pull.

However when Rusty and I looked at his OEM bumper with the FRBv2 held in to position it appeared there was less interference if the vertical portion of the bracket is mounted to the inside of the frame rail.
 
I picked up 2 brackets. Since I have a trailer hitch on the back would it be wise to put both up front? It says that working load limit is exceeded pulling from 1 for a normal hundy. thoughts?

PS: I have stock bumpers
 
I picked up 2 brackets. Since I have a trailer hitch on the back would it be wise to put both up front? It says that working load limit is exceeded pulling from 1 for a normal hundy. thoughts?

PS: I have stock bumpers


The recovery load at the bracket will most often be variable depending upon several factors including how stuck the rig is, the angle of the slope you are stuck on/in, the angle of the winch line/recovery strap in relationship to the pin of the bow/D shackle, etc. The yield strength is the amount of force required to initiate metal fatique and/or distortion of the device. Generally it is recommended for non-overhead lifting to have a WLL (Working Load Limit) of around 3:1. This factors in repeated usage. So at the 17,000+lbs of yield strength (a sample of the production run was tested and the YS came to 17,610lbs) it has a WLL of around 1/3 of the yield strength therefore the WLL for the FRBv2 is 5,867lbs. For reference: A stock 100-Series has a published curb weight of just under 5,400lbs.

Let me state: I always want to be on the established safe side of all the recovery gear components including, ideally, within the WLL rating of each component.

Unless the rig is buried to the frame in gooey muck/mud and/or otherwise not able to assist the recovery under its own power, it is probably rare to need more than one FRBv2 but it depends on each recovery event and the factors involved.

However other mitigating recovery event circumstances could actually lower the WLL of each of the components used including the FRBv2. For instance: All recovery gear is rated for a straight direction applied load. As the angle between say the winch line deviates from being perpendicular to the pin of the D ring/anchor shackle the effective WLL is reduced.

Sorry buts its not a simple "yes" or "no" answer ;)
 
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