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96 Toyota Landcruiser!! Lower Price! could you give me your thoughts? Has a very very slow oil leak in the rear main steal. Supposeldy not major at all.
I've seen it on CL for a while. Kinda looks ragged out, but hard to tell with the pics provided. I'd go check it out. I always think it's a turnoff when the owner can't even take the time to clean it and take decent pics...
Is 256,000 miles bad for a land cruiser? I have been talking to the guy for a while. He said he would sell it for $3750 but i think I could get him down to $3500.
That's a lot of miles, but there are plenty of LC's around with way over that. I bought my 60 series with around the same mileage 3 years ago and it still is on the original trans/engine.
That 80 doesn't have a front bumper and he said the roof rack isn't on it anymore, plus it needs "sensors" (whatever that means). I'm not sure it's even worth $3k, but idk.
That 80 doesn't have a front bumper and he said the roof rack isn't on it anymore, plus it needs "sensors" (whatever that means). I'm not sure it's even worth $3k, but idk.
I dont know much about land cruisers so Im just thinking out loud but could I spend around 2k to work on the engine and get back into good shape?
@Kyle Minor I would spend some time reading in the 80 series section here, before you decide to buy one. Those engines are known for head gasket failures from the limited knowledge I know. Just do some research and go see the truck in person before you decide how much money you need for repairs etc.
I gotcha. I will for sure do some research. Thanks for the help.
Quick and dirty.
3FE trucks (91-92): Iron block, iron head, if the oil is changed and it is reasonably maintained it should go a half million miles with little trouble. If it sounds as bad as you say, probably walk away, or adjust price accordingly to cover an engine overhaul. Transmissions can be finicky, a fluid change on a high mileage unit that has never been serviced is almost a guaranteed trip to the transmission shop. They are all hydraulic. They will be semi-float rears and will be non-abs and have no airbags. Generally will have cloth seats. Pretty much every body panel and most interior trim pieces can be swapped from later models.
1FZ/A440 (93-94): Body and interior stayed almost exactly the same. New drivetrain iron block, aluminum head. Know for head gasket going, but mileage varies. There is a heater hose at the back of the block that is a know problem and is often replaced almost like a maintenance item. Transmissions were better, but still all hydraulic. The rear ends transitioned to a full float design and the truck got ABS. This necessitated a slightly longer birfield up front to account for the reluctor ring. Aside from PHH and head gasket, solid trucks. These can be found on occasion with a SF rear as they were kind of transition years. These would be the earliest years you would find the factory lockers. The fender flares changed a little in this generation and up.
1FZ/A343 (95-97): body remained the same except for the grill lost the "TOYOTA" logo and got the sombrero. Interior got a differnt dash with more buttons and these were mostly leather interiors. Same 1FZ, iron block with aluminum head, same known head gasket issue. same PHH situation. These were all FF rear, had abs and were also available factory locked. The transmissions were an electronic over hydraulic unit and the computers were all OBDII. They would have had drivers and passenger side airbags, but nothing on the sides. 96 and 97 also saw the introduction of the LX450 to the stable which was essentially an 80 with more bells and whistles. They share most all other major components.
91-97 share suspension components, aside from driveshafts. The 91-94 are similar and the 95-97 are the same. That had to do with the A4xx to the A3xx changes in the transmissions. Lastly, if it has a sunroof, it has likely leaked at some point. Check the drains front and rear on whatever you buy to make sure they are connected, clear and draining properly.
As a whole you can't go wrong if you find a good one of any year. Know that the 91-92 models due to them getting the motor and trans carryover will have more parts that have been disco'd, but unfortunately we are talking about a series where the newest truck is now 19 years old, so model specific parts are getting fewer and fewer every day.
Whatever you choose, know going in that owning an 80 is an investment. Nothing for them is cheap. You have to remember, particularly with the entry of the 80 series, the LC became the flagship for Toyota in North America. They were not mass imported like the mini-trucks or mass produced like the jeeps of today. They are almost a niche market and as such the aftermarket, while growing, is relatively limited and as such pricey in our world.
Whatever you decide, plan another $500-$750 for maintenance items. Knuckle rebuild, belts, hoses, plugs, wires, brakes, etc. to ensure you have a good solid runner.
Prices for 80s on CL and the like have gone S T U P I D. I have seen good 96 and 97 units sell for north of $10k, insane in my world, but good rigs can be had, but you will want to budget around $5k to get one that isn't a pile these days.
Sorry I got long, but perhaps this will help give you a little idea of what you will be looking for/ at when you go.
-Matthew
3FE trucks (91-92): Iron block, iron head, if the oil is changed and it is reasonably maintained it should go a half million miles with little trouble. If it sounds as bad as you say, probably walk away, or adjust price accordingly to cover an engine overhaul. Transmissions can be finicky, a fluid change on a high mileage unit that has never been serviced is almost a guaranteed trip to the transmission shop. They are all hydraulic. They will be semi-float rears and will be non-abs and have no airbags. Generally will have cloth seats. Pretty much every body panel and most interior trim pieces can be swapped from later models.
1FZ/A440 (93-94): Body and interior stayed almost exactly the same. New drivetrain iron block, aluminum head. Know for head gasket going, but mileage varies. There is a heater hose at the back of the block that is a know problem and is often replaced almost like a maintenance item. Transmissions were better, but still all hydraulic. The rear ends transitioned to a full float design and the truck got ABS. This necessitated a slightly longer birfield up front to account for the reluctor ring. Aside from PHH and head gasket, solid trucks. These can be found on occasion with a SF rear as they were kind of transition years. These would be the earliest years you would find the factory lockers. The fender flares changed a little in this generation and up.
1FZ/A343 (95-97): body remained the same except for the grill lost the "TOYOTA" logo and got the sombrero. Interior got a differnt dash with more buttons and these were mostly leather interiors. Same 1FZ, iron block with aluminum head, same known head gasket issue. same PHH situation. These were all FF rear, had abs and were also available factory locked. The transmissions were an electronic over hydraulic unit and the computers were all OBDII. They would have had drivers and passenger side airbags, but nothing on the sides. 96 and 97 also saw the introduction of the LX450 to the stable which was essentially an 80 with more bells and whistles. They share most all other major components.
91-97 share suspension components, aside from driveshafts. The 91-94 are similar and the 95-97 are the same. That had to do with the A4xx to the A3xx changes in the transmissions. Lastly, if it has a sunroof, it has likely leaked at some point. Check the drains front and rear on whatever you buy to make sure they are connected, clear and draining properly.
As a whole you can't go wrong if you find a good one of any year. Know that the 91-92 models due to them getting the motor and trans carryover will have more parts that have been disco'd, but unfortunately we are talking about a series where the newest truck is now 19 years old, so model specific parts are getting fewer and fewer every day.
Whatever you choose, know going in that owning an 80 is an investment. Nothing for them is cheap. You have to remember, particularly with the entry of the 80 series, the LC became the flagship for Toyota in North America. They were not mass imported like the mini-trucks or mass produced like the jeeps of today. They are almost a niche market and as such the aftermarket, while growing, is relatively limited and as such pricey in our world.
Whatever you decide, plan another $500-$750 for maintenance items. Knuckle rebuild, belts, hoses, plugs, wires, brakes, etc. to ensure you have a good solid runner.
Prices for 80s on CL and the like have gone S T U P I D. I have seen good 96 and 97 units sell for north of $10k, insane in my world, but good rigs can be had, but you will want to budget around $5k to get one that isn't a pile these days.
Sorry I got long, but perhaps this will help give you a little idea of what you will be looking for/ at when you go.
-Matthew
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That is a lot of good info Matthew.
Thank you so much for all that info.
Your welcome. One thing I ment to put out there is that the newer 1FZ combos do have more pep, they will both get you where you want to go every time, but you definitely won't win any speed races. Add tires and armor and you'll find the later models a little more forgiving than the 3FE rigs.
Good hunting and I will keep my eyes out. If your willing to ride, check the Nashville CL for them. I've seen some decent looking rigs for reasonable monies lately.
Good hunting and I will keep my eyes out. If your willing to ride, check the Nashville CL for them. I've seen some decent looking rigs for reasonable monies lately.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a used ecu I can buy for a 1993 land cruiser. I would love to find one local to Knoxville.
I just posted several Items in the Parts for sale section, mostly 80 series Parts:
OME Springs pairs of 850's, 860's, and 863's. $125-$150
OME LTR Shocks $100
1.5" Wheel Spacers $75
Harrison snorkel pre cleaner $25
Also still have a set of 5 Toyo M/Ts 285/75/16 lots of great tread ran them for about 15k miles $400
In West Knoxville, would prefer someone local purchase and pick up.
PM if interested.
Hope everyone is doing well!
Cheers,
John
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OME Springs pairs of 850's, 860's, and 863's. $125-$150
OME LTR Shocks $100
1.5" Wheel Spacers $75
Harrison snorkel pre cleaner $25
Also still have a set of 5 Toyo M/Ts 285/75/16 lots of great tread ran them for about 15k miles $400
In West Knoxville, would prefer someone local purchase and pick up.
PM if interested.
Hope everyone is doing well!
Cheers,
John
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Tire pics for those requested!
I would have been all over them yesterday morning. Ordered new tires a few hours too early.
Selling a diesel swap "kit" if you will. OM617!!
For Sale: - 1983 OM617 - 200k miles, runs excellent w/4x4Labs adapter to H41/H42/H55 - $1250
For Sale: - 1983 OM617 - 200k miles, runs excellent w/4x4Labs adapter to H41/H42/H55 - $1250
If I can figure out a time to get to Knoxville, I would like to have the pre-cleaner.
Sounds good! If I hear of anyone heading that way I will let you know as well.
Sounds good. If I can make it down soon, I'll send you a message and hopefully meet up with you.