Does anyone know what the FJ specifications are?
I would like to know what kind of axles it comes with.
Thanks
I would like to know what kind of axles it comes with.
Thanks
FJ specs ?
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Click on the link at the top of the page, it is large blue print, and says "For the latest and greatest on the FJ Cruiser check out Toyota's FJ Cruiser Bulletin."
IFS front, solid axle rear.
IFS front, solid axle rear.
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Thanks, But I still didnt see the axle sizes.
powderpig
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Your question is a little vague. Are you talking ratio? If so the auto has 3.72 and the manual has 3.9x. If you are talking differential ring gear size then it will be like the current 4/runner and Taco. Close to a 8 inch both front and rear. later robbie
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FJ Cruiser Specs Revealed
I don't know how much of these numbers may change by production time, but as of now, they're pretty accurate.
TCase Low Range- 2.566
Axle Gear- 3.727
Crawl Ratio w/ Auto Tranny- 33.58
Crawl Ratio w/ 6spd manual- 39.94
Engine- DOHC 16 Valve 4.0L V6
10.0 to 1 Compression Ratio
245 HP @ 5200rpm, 282 LB-FT @ 3800rpm
ext. 17 city/21 hwy MPG
Consider this...the first US Based Landcruiser available with an Auto Tranny, the 1988 FJ62 (4.0L 3FE & A440f tranny) had a stock crawl ratio around 26 to 1. This new FJ aint too bad at all! carrying 5 people and towing 5000lbs?! For under $24000. I gotta say i'm almost impressed. will know when i test drive!
I don't know how much of these numbers may change by production time, but as of now, they're pretty accurate.
TCase Low Range- 2.566
Axle Gear- 3.727
Crawl Ratio w/ Auto Tranny- 33.58
Crawl Ratio w/ 6spd manual- 39.94
Engine- DOHC 16 Valve 4.0L V6
10.0 to 1 Compression Ratio
245 HP @ 5200rpm, 282 LB-FT @ 3800rpm
ext. 17 city/21 hwy MPG
Consider this...the first US Based Landcruiser available with an Auto Tranny, the 1988 FJ62 (4.0L 3FE & A440f tranny) had a stock crawl ratio around 26 to 1. This new FJ aint too bad at all! carrying 5 people and towing 5000lbs?! For under $24000. I gotta say i'm almost impressed. will know when i test drive!
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axles
Oh yeah..if you haven't noticed, the front axle is IFS, based off the 4runner platform...the rear is a solid axle with four link coil sprung suspension. I'm not too sure, but the rear may be either the 7.5" Ring rear axle, or the one found in the rear of the tacomas. maybe someone else has more specific information.
Oh yeah..if you haven't noticed, the front axle is IFS, based off the 4runner platform...the rear is a solid axle with four link coil sprung suspension. I'm not too sure, but the rear may be either the 7.5" Ring rear axle, or the one found in the rear of the tacomas. maybe someone else has more specific information.
entire drivetrain is identical to the 2003+ 4runner.
check the FSM thread...all official Toyota OEM specs are there.
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PolkLandbruiser said:
Honestly, I think Toyota made a big mistake on their gearing for the manual. The 6-speed ought to have at least a 6:1 ratio in first gear. I would not (for my uses) bother buying a manual FJ with the gearing they chose. 40:1 is really marginal for playing in the rocks. Better than stock FJ-40 gearing, but that isn't saying much. I had 62:1 on my 40 and wished I had 80:1 more than a couple times.
Maybe they figured not too many of these would end up on technical trails?? Who needs a 6-speed if first isn't a granny??
semlin
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all those numbers are slightly different on the toyota.ca site.
Compression Ratio - 10.0:1
Horsepower (kW) - 239 (178) @ 5200 rpm (premium fuel)
Torque (N.m) - 278 (376) @ 3800 rpm (premium fuel)
Crawl Ratios [41.84:1 on the Manual and 33.76:1 on the Automatic]
Compression Ratio - 10.0:1
Horsepower (kW) - 239 (178) @ 5200 rpm (premium fuel)
Torque (N.m) - 278 (376) @ 3800 rpm (premium fuel)
Crawl Ratios [41.84:1 on the Manual and 33.76:1 on the Automatic]
powderpig
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The axle ratio is different for the manual (3.7xx) and the auto was 3.9x.
So the auto has a better diff ratio and has the torque converter as well. So the auto will have a better crawl ratio for the trails. As for the manual haivng a real low 1 gear, why ? Most drivers of the FJ would never use such a low gear, it would be a waste for all but a very small % of people. Aftermarket will come up with some solutions soon enough if you really think you might need it. The hardcore people that will wheel these or any vechicle will build a truck any how. Remember a real 4wheel drive is built not bought. later robbie
O yea, the final drives for the overdrive is better for the auto as well, that is another reason the auto gets better fuel economy on the highway.
So the auto has a better diff ratio and has the torque converter as well. So the auto will have a better crawl ratio for the trails. As for the manual haivng a real low 1 gear, why ? Most drivers of the FJ would never use such a low gear, it would be a waste for all but a very small % of people. Aftermarket will come up with some solutions soon enough if you really think you might need it. The hardcore people that will wheel these or any vechicle will build a truck any how. Remember a real 4wheel drive is built not bought. later robbie
O yea, the final drives for the overdrive is better for the auto as well, that is another reason the auto gets better fuel economy on the highway.
Robbie
It doesn't cost any more to make a 6 speed with a lower first gear, and you lose nothing on the street because you still have 5 speeds to use.
So my point is, they could please everyone with this tranny for no more money...why not do it?
I think they missed an opportunity.
It doesn't cost any more to make a 6 speed with a lower first gear, and you lose nothing on the street because you still have 5 speeds to use.
So my point is, they could please everyone with this tranny for no more money...why not do it?
I think they missed an opportunity.
powderpig
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I do not think I missed your point at all. The whole point about 6 usable speeds to to keep the power band in a certain point to get the best fuel ecomany and performance out of the vechicle. To have for the most part a single speed to satisfy a few folks just does not make sense both from a engeneering point as well as a company point. Besides the other 98% of the people that buy the truck may wonder why toyota put in a usless gear.
Toyota is not in the business of making a few people happy, the only way they turn a profit is to market a product to many more than the few on Mud. Yes it would be nice to get a lower gear , but personally I would opt for a auto for hard core wheeling any how over a 6 speed. Now maybe for expeditionary type of travel I think a manual has it place. But this is all my personally experence and preference. later robbie
Toyota is not in the business of making a few people happy, the only way they turn a profit is to market a product to many more than the few on Mud. Yes it would be nice to get a lower gear , but personally I would opt for a auto for hard core wheeling any how over a 6 speed. Now maybe for expeditionary type of travel I think a manual has it place. But this is all my personally experence and preference. later robbie
semlin
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I agree that the auto will be better offroad in the rough stuff but I went manual anyway. this will be the wife's car. i figure the fulltime 4wd makes it better for ski trips (long story 
) and also might make it better on expedition or logging roads in the same way an 80 series in high with the diff open is just great for that. plus the 6 speed with 240hp has got to be fun to drive .
interesting about the overdrive difference. I had assumed the reverse manual/automatic mileage difference is attibutable to the fulltime 4wd in the manual. 2wd on the auto FJ has got to be good for at least 3 mpg over 4wd.
btw, is the part time 4wd on the automatic is regular tire chirping off pavement only 4wd?
) and also might make it better on expedition or logging roads in the same way an 80 series in high with the diff open is just great for that. plus the 6 speed with 240hp has got to be fun to drive .interesting about the overdrive difference. I had assumed the reverse manual/automatic mileage difference is attibutable to the fulltime 4wd in the manual. 2wd on the auto FJ has got to be good for at least 3 mpg over 4wd.
btw, is the part time 4wd on the automatic is regular tire chirping off pavement only 4wd?
powderpig
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With that light of a vechicle I would think it would only gain a little MPG, like 1-2. You also have to look at the drop of fuel ecomany of the auto, it still is a little on the big size and has to pump fluid, so a little fuel ecomany is lost on it. As with most newer ADD systems in the trucks you are not gaining that much extra by having 2x because you are still spining the front axles and such. About the only thing that does not spin is the front drive shaft and the pinion, ring gear. It will be interesting to see what real world ecomany is, versus what is writen on paper. later robbie
semlin
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sorry are you saying the auto FJ is AWD in 4h? there is no Central diff locker option in the automatic t-case so I assumed it was a conventional old school 4wd set up with locking hubs and nothing spinning up front at all until 4wd is engaged..
I guess I'll beat the gearing dead horse one more time for good measure
With the HP/weight ratio of this thing, one would have no problem keeping it in the sweet spot with 5 forward road gears, and...
Even GM realizes the value of a granny 1st gear. They had one available for the better part of 30 years in the SM-420 and SM-465 (four speeds!), and later in the NV-4500 and 5600.
Brings me back to my Marketing 101 question: Why not please everyone if you can do it for the same cost?
I agree that the auto in this application is preferred for offroad. That might not be true if the manual crawl ratio was 60:1 or better.
OK - I'll shut up now
With the HP/weight ratio of this thing, one would have no problem keeping it in the sweet spot with 5 forward road gears, and...
Even GM realizes the value of a granny 1st gear. They had one available for the better part of 30 years in the SM-420 and SM-465 (four speeds!), and later in the NV-4500 and 5600.
Brings me back to my Marketing 101 question: Why not please everyone if you can do it for the same cost?
I agree that the auto in this application is preferred for offroad. That might not be true if the manual crawl ratio was 60:1 or better.
OK - I'll shut up now
powderpig said:
Thats backwards, the manual is 3.909, and the a/t is 3.727
the manual tranny gear ratio's are as follows
1st 4.171
2nd 2.190
3rd 1.488
4th 1.193
5th 1.000
6th 0.799
reverse 3.607
both autos are as follows
1st 3.520
2nd 2.042
3rd 1.400
4th 1.000
5th 0.716
reverse 3.224
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powderpig
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Thanks for posting the correct ratio's. I was sure I had it right, then I saw in the full specs that I was wrong. That then reiforces the better fuel ecomany with the auto haveing the better gears for cruising the road. later robbie
powderpig said:
No problem, they released everything to us finally so if you need to know anything else lemme know..
