I've seen/heard of way to many bfg's (km2s and krawlers) cutting down sidewalls. The MT/R's and duratracs have much better sidewall protection with MT/R's being the greater of the two. Everybody I know who have ran the duratracs and/or MT/R's have been very pleased with them. I've ran bfgs and I didn't hate them but didn't care to much for them either.
Final thoughts on BFG Mud Terrain T/A KM2.. Need more advise :(
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I've had 33x10.5.15 KM2's on my 40 for 2 months now and am not super pleased in the rain. Admittedly, I have a 350 and was replacing Mickey Thompson MTZ's that were 2" wider, but the MTZ's never once spun when wet. The KM2's are scary for the first few hours the roads are wet in the rain. I bought the KM2's at a great discount to avoid the massive rubbing of the wide MTZ's that I should probably never have bought.
No experience on snow or ice with either tire. I used to have BFG AT's for years on my old S10. Loved them in all conditions around the DC area.
My 80 has Hankook Dnyapro MT 295's that have been fine for the 2 months I've owned it. It got a little sketchy at 45mph on the highway in the slush last week once or twice but they're good overall. I'm leaning towards 35x12.5.16 MTZ's when the time comes, though.
No experience on snow or ice with either tire. I used to have BFG AT's for years on my old S10. Loved them in all conditions around the DC area.
My 80 has Hankook Dnyapro MT 295's that have been fine for the 2 months I've owned it. It got a little sketchy at 45mph on the highway in the slush last week once or twice but they're good overall. I'm leaning towards 35x12.5.16 MTZ's when the time comes, though.
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Well... I was sold to BFG A/Ts but after talking to the "tire specialist" at america's tires, I ended up getting the Mud Terrain KM2s and have em sipped the middle threads for more tractions on rain/snow... gave me a $100 off the total amount. My 80 now looks like a LAND CRUISER and not like a woosy land rover... I mean Land Cruiser 
You'll be glad you went with the KM2's. Good choice. Now show the pics or it didn't happen.
Siping is a good idea. Others have reported better traction and the siping seems to hold up. I considered it when I bought these, but figured I'd see how things drove. Frankly, there was enough improvement "seats of the pants" in traction vs the KMs I was running on my Isuzu I haven't felt I need it.
I think you're going to be pretty happy on the noise level. They're just not.
Re: the BFGs that are snowflake rated, I think you're talking about what they're calling the Commercial T/A Traction:
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire...cial-t-a-traction/tire-details#techspec_table
It's in various LT numbers that are compatible with the 80 series. Saw them myself for the first time yesterday when checking on some specs. Guess they're new.
I think you're going to be pretty happy on the noise level. They're just not.
Re: the BFGs that are snowflake rated, I think you're talking about what they're calling the Commercial T/A Traction:
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire...cial-t-a-traction/tire-details#techspec_table
It's in various LT numbers that are compatible with the 80 series. Saw them myself for the first time yesterday when checking on some specs. Guess they're new.
No, I was talking about the BFG AT/KO tires - see this link: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=All-Terrain+T/A+KO
On the "specs" tab there are two different LT265/75R16 tires and 2 different LT285/75R16 tires. The E rated tires are NOT rated for severe snow (no mountain snowflake symbol) and the D rated do have the symbol. The E rated tires are slightly less expensive ($5-$20 per tire), so some places will try to give you those instead of the D rated tires. It is just something to watch out for when getting tires (I learned this the hard way
)
My BFG AT's are old enough to have the mountain/snowflake on them but new ones don't. This is from their corporate Consumer Care Dept.:
Thank you for your email. We welcome the opportunity to serve you. We are not currently making the All-Terrain T/A KO with the snow flake symbol. The tire still meets the RMA standard for severe weather and the tire no longer has the symbol on it. You will not see any traction or handling difference. You may still see some with the symbol in dealer's inventory that have not
been sold.
We appreciate your business and thank you for choosing BFGoodrich.
Thank you for your email. We welcome the opportunity to serve you. We are not currently making the All-Terrain T/A KO with the snow flake symbol. The tire still meets the RMA standard for severe weather and the tire no longer has the symbol on it. You will not see any traction or handling difference. You may still see some with the symbol in dealer's inventory that have not
been sold.
We appreciate your business and thank you for choosing BFGoodrich.
This was from a year or so ago. Also only certain size tires meet the standard so different size tires of the same model may or may not have the symbol.
I suspect BFG wanted to introduce some differentiation between the non-snowflake and the snowflake versions. Anyone know how long this "Commercial" version has been around? That may have been introduced about the time the old snowflake ones went OOP. And the experience of getting one item when you think you're getting something else kinda fits this scenario.
If so, sounds a lot like marketing folks run wild. They did this with the Purina cat food one of our cats used to eat. He was addicted to this dry stuff, wouldn't eat a can of the wet stuff to save his life or really anything else. All of the sudden, we couldn't find his favorite anywhere. After a bit of panic and some sleuthing online, I figured out that they dropped his old favorite, but introduced a new one (among several) that was close enough to make him happy (thank god!) What was weird was that nowhere would Purina admit this is basically what happened. They had a notice saying the old one was discontinued. In another place entirely, they were bragging on the new version. [don't look behind the marketing curtain, Dorothy...]
And you don't want to mess with Mr. C...
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LOL... I will take pictures tomorrow when lights out.. I have to drive around my wife pretty much the rest of the day right after I got my tires..
I have to be nice to her now since she let me spend that much money on tires that I don't really need... but she know I WANT a set 
Shoulda got her set of tits then
LOL... I will take pictures tomorrow when lights out.. I have to drive around my wife pretty much the rest of the day right after I got my tires..
