Expedition prep - Latin America - Step 1

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What a great thread this is - I've said it before - the advice here is global and appropriate.

Keep chipping in guys - it really helps peeps like me - it's unlikely that I will ever do PanAmerica Highway - but the hints and tips are great.

Carry on....lol

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On the car - If you don't take the 40, you have to give it to me because you don't deserve it. If you make sure it's in good shape and bring any likely spares before you leave (which you should do anyway), then you have no reason to need to get cruiser parts in Mexico, and as other have said once you're past Mexico you're home free in cruiser country. I'm about to limp my ailing 60 back up through Mexico and if that old girl can do it so can yours.

The 40 will be the lowest profile, and although the 05 ford is a good option and would also blend in ok, you could have a disaster with it if you go to any but the best mechanic in the capital of whatever country you are in.

Yeah you can do without A/C, but on some days it's nice to have. I say if your truck has it, take the belt off until you really need it. If not, you just have to be sweaty that's all. Being smelly helps prevent robbery.

If you were to take an american truck, use a box truck shell with windows for a camper instead of a standard camper back and nobody will know you're a rich, stupid tourist :flipoff2:

With that $5k-$7k instead of buying another truck that will be "ok", you could make your 40 really sweet and have a great living space.

On minimalism - the more space you have, the more crap you fill it with. Leave with an empty truck and after a few months you'll find it filled with all sorts of junk you bought along the way. Plan your living space practically, and then at least the junk that fills up your truck will add to your comfort instead of just being a pain in the ass. I left with a coleman stove, hiking gear, and milk crates full of clothes and cooking wear. My camping setup isn't much better than that now, and it kind of sucks... I have learned from this mistake - minimalism only lasts as long as you can do it for, plan around that!

A roof top tent is used in some countries to keep the lions below, but in other places it is an item of convenience. You can open it quickly and sleep on your truck rather than having to set up a tent or move around your gear inside the truck.

Jerry cans are a must IMHO (I used the one I always keep full just today, and thus didn't have to backtrack 10km to fill up and waste 45 minutes, miss the good weather, and miss seeing the volcano I drove 4 hours to see). I'm not going to store mine inside because I don't have the extra space, it's not that necessary, they don't make me stand out that much having them on the outside (I have cheap ones, not flashy ones), and lastly I don't like breathing in diesel fumes all day for months.

On selling the car - I'm pretty sure not all countries in central america put it in your passport? Maybe I'm wrong, I'll have to ask my girlfriend. As has been said, it's not going to be straightforward or legal though, you can get in trouble, screw yourself bigtime, and it's not a good plan to leave home with.
 
On selling the car - I'm pretty sure not all countries in central america put it in your passport? Maybe I'm wrong, I'll have to ask my girlfriend. As has been said, it's not going to be straightforward or legal though, you can get in trouble, screw yourself bigtime, and it's not a good plan to leave home with.

I know before I had Guatemalan registration and plates that they put the car in your passport in all the countries I had visited in that time namely, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Belize. That only leaves Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama as unknowns (I'm told that Costa Rica is VERY strict).

They WILL give you a hard time if the papers are not correct or not in date. I showed up at the Guatemala/Mexico border three weeks ago with both the Guatemalan and Canadian plates on the front and they would not let me go till I showed my Guatemalan "Tarjeta de Circulacion" (basically the Guatemalan registration papers). They were concerned that the Guatemalan plate came from the wreckers or something. Once it was proven legitimate I could continue on.
 
One note on that is that in some countries they don't have it all computerized, in no countries are they connected with ICBC or anyone in Canada or the US, and BC papers are very easy to fake. I met a guy who had resorted to faking BC papers in order to sell a vehicle (a bike I think) somewhere in the Americas... the new owner had no problems.

I have in the past also simply told border and police offers that "I do have insurance/my registration is valid, but obviously the papers are out of date because I've been out of the country for over a year and it is the law in Canada that you cannot send official documents out of the country by mail" (or "I had it sent to *desination town*, and I'm going there to receive it"). There's all sorts of stupid laws in some countries, they don't know what ours are, and for the most part if you have the right attitude they will feel obligated to help you find a way around it or turn a blind eye.

Oops, sorry I'm going a bit off topic here. The point is just that you can fake British Colombia ownership and registration papers very easily, sell it to another traveler who is willing to use that as a temporary fix, and nobody outside Canada and maybe the US will ever know. It's a bit dodgy, but a very simple route that I can't see a problem with if you find yourself in a desperate situation AND have a buyer willing to do it.
 
You could take a Citroen 3cv like these guys... americaencitro

Met these guys the other day - they said they didn't really save any money and are just paying their way by selling t shirts and post cards along the way, and with the kindness of strangers! Really nice couple, and a good example that whatever you take you can make it, and you can go as expensive or as cheaply as fits your lifestyle! Parts availability for that Citroen can not be good...
 
i say go toyota all the way.

if you aren't in the boat of having your 40 possibly stolen or ditched, then get a straight-axle 4runner or Hilux with a 22R for $2000, and put another 2 or $3000 into it. Get a topper and build a bed, store gear under it, 'nuff said!

i want to do this trip in the future, and i am going to get my 60 together so it can do the whole trip. i had a 40 and the plan was to fix it up for the trip, but lack of storage space became an issue for me (i have a dog and LOTS of sports gear).

one cheap piece of insurance: build your self a kill switch. Put something inline with the ignition system, like a hidden toggle switch somewhere where nobody will find it. if someone does try to jack you, the vehicle will not start without that switch being engaged. most toyotas including the 40 really only need a forced entry and a screwdriver to get stolen.

i have not driven Mexico, and do not think it would be a country-wide issue as much as an, oh sheeit i better get out of___________right now! type of an issue.

tacoma might draw a higher profile or jackablility rating, my preference would be a 60 or straightaxle 4runner. Both of those you could take out the backseat, built a bed and frame it up so that you have storage underneath, and then you are SLEEPING IN THE VEHICLE, as opposed to the back of the truck bed. This might be quite a theft deterrent in my opinion.
 
Update is this - putting my 2 weeks in on the 18th and driving west, then south starting the first week in July. Life has funny ways of speeding up and slowing down and now I'm considering a job offer in PA for when I get back - of course this shortens my trip considerably, but I'm still looking at 4-6 weeks of South-O-the border fun. Main things on the agenda are surfing, fishing and climbing. Baja, the area south of D.F. and Portero Chico are some spots I'm trying to hit. Oh yeah - taking the 40. Baseline allllmost complete and then we'll be on our way.

Anyone have any first-hand experience with Mexico in recent months? I'm all ears - the more info I can get, the better. I'll try to do a better job of updating this as the tires start rolling.
 
We spent four and half months in Mexico on our way to our current location (Panama City, Panama). Baja was awesome and dirt cheap. For surfing do not miss Scorpion Bay (San Juanico) and Todos Santos, for fishing... everywhere was good for us, but we had the best shore fishing in Bahia de Los Angeles, if you have the time try to hit the Cabo Pulmo area. There is tons of info on Baja online, you could easily spend a few months there, we should have spent more than a month.

I am not sure what the rest of your plans for Mexico are, but if you have any questions that I can help with let me know.

Good luck and have fun.
 
Fellas - I'm on the way out - should leave my home on 7/5 and make my way to Baja by the end of that week. If you'd like to follow the trip or check in on me - go to the ExPo site - Expedition Portal Forum I'll update that as much as I can.


Lots of great information from the folks on here - you certainly have my gratitude.

Take care now.
 

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