Engine Hoist

[Kynot62]

Scott

You can definately get to the bell housing bolts. Its how we took a tranny out of a 62 when it was converted to a manual, this time left the engine in place and dropped tcase and tranny out the bottom

But yes there is no wrong or right way. But I can say I have pulled a 3B with tranny and tcase attached and I won't ever do it that way again even though the FSM for a 62 says to pull and replace as a unit

Tony

 

[mwebfj60]

A couple of long extensions, a swivel, and an air wrench made quick work of the bellhousing bolts when I pulled only my motor a few months ago. Not that big of a deal really. I didn't go through the hole from the transfer case shifter. Came in from underneath the cruiser behind the transfer case.

 

[gon2srf]

Scott

You can definately get to the bell housing bolts. Its how we took a tranny out of a 62 when it was converted to a manual, this time left the engine in place and dropped tcase and tranny out the bottom



But yes there is no wrong or right way. But I can says I have pulled a 3B with tranny and tcase attached and I won't ever do it that way again even though the FSM for a 62 says to pull and replace as a unit.

Tony

That's interesting, my aftermarket Haynes manual says just the motor... I have the PFD for the FSM, I'll have to read that too just to add to the confusion Thank you Tony.

A couple of long extensions, a swivel, and an air wrench made quick work of the bellhousing bolts when I pulled only my motor a few months ago. Not that big of a deal really. I didn't go through the hole from the transfer case shifter. Came in from underneath the cruiser behind the transfer case.

Good to hear thanks.

 

[vasellers]

Hate to say it, but before you put the new motor in, GALLEY PLUG.

 

[62Cruiser]

Well it seems like there are 3 different ways to go and everyone likes it the way they did it.

1. Remove the motor-tranny and t-case as a unit.
2. Support the engine with the hoist and remove the crossmember while supporting the tranny from below, remove the motor mounts and drop the motor low enough to access the upper bell housing bolts from below, them remove just the motor.

3. Access the upper bell housing bolts through the access port under the carpet and remove the motor.

Scott

Hey Scott, I thought I should clarify. I did not pull my crossmember. I just let the tranny tip forward and down on it's mount. It has a bit of room to tip down with the cross member still attached. I just supported the tranny with a jack to prevent any additional stress and level it out when I was separating the motor. It doesn't seem like there is any, one, definitive way to do it. To each his own. When are you pulling that thing anyway?

 

[gon2srf]

Hate to say it, but before you put the new motor in, GALLEY PLUG.

As a precaution or do they almost all begin to weep after time?

Hey Scott, I thought I should clarify. I did not pull my crossmember. I just let the tranny tip forward and down on it's mount. It has a bit of room to tip down with the cross member still attached. I just supported the tranny with a jack to prevent any additional stress and level it out when I was separating the motor. It doesn't seem like there is any, one, definitive way to do it. To each his own. When are you pulling that thing anyway?

Thanks for clearing that up, appreciated. My motor arrives from Philidelphia this coming Friday so today I cleaned the garage and began draining fluids, labeling wiring and hoses etc. I'll be spending a few hours every evening this week till it's done.

Did you replace your galley plug as Vasellers suggested I do?

 

[62Cruiser]

As a precaution or do they almost all begin to weep after time?

Did you replace your galley plug as Vasellers suggested I do?

I am still in the slow process of rebuilding my 3FE. This is definitely on my list of "things to do". I have not personally had my galley plug begin to weep, but based on the collective knowledge of people much more land cruiser savvy than I, this is a must in my opinion. It can't be a better time to hit the preemptive strike when you have that much ease of access. The peace of mind alone makes this simple task a priority. Plus, if anything goes wrong (broken tap, metal shavings, etc.) you won't have a "bear" of a time correcting it. I don't remember if you said your were getting a long block or just a short block and keeping your current head? If you are getting the whole assembly, it may already be done. Cheers! -Greg

 

[gon2srf]

I am still in the slow process of rebuilding my 3FE. This is definitely on my list of "things to do". I have not personally had my galley plug begin to weep, but based on the collective knowledge of people much more land cruiser savvy than I, this is a must in my opinion. It can't be a better time to hit the preemptive strike when you have that much ease of access. The peace of mind alone makes this simple task a priority. Plus, if anything goes wrong (broken tap, metal shavings, etc.) you won't have a "bear" of a time correcting it. I don't remember if you said your were getting a long block or just a short block and keeping your current head? If you are getting the whole assembly, it may already be done. Cheers! -Greg

I bought a complete used motor with low miles and decent compression from a fellow Mudder, I'll check the condition of the exisiting galley plug and replace it if neccessary which I think will be the case. The used motor is just a quick fix to keep the FJ on the road while I properly rebuild the existing motor. Thanks again for the advice, I'll update the thread as I move along.

 

[gon2srf]

3FE engine pull

Hey guys, I wanted to say thanks for all the input here. My son and I safely removed the beast this past Saturday. Even with the motor mounts removed and the motor lowered, you need an offest 17mm to actually reach the upper bolts. I ended doing one from above and the rest from below with a couple of long extension and swivel. The bolt that gave me the the hardest time was the drivers side second from the top, what a biotch. Also the wire connection that runs along the top of the trans was a motherfuther as well. Anyway, I ordered a main seal, front oil seal, oil pan gasket, oil plug and transfer case plug seals/washers, new spark plugs and wires and thermostat gaskets all from Cruiser Dan who was a big help today. I'll install the new gear on my donor motor, install a galley plug, clean the hell out of the motor and engine compartment drop it in next weekend.

I could not of done it as confidently without your input guys

Thanks again.

 

[62Cruiser]

Nice work Scott! Looks like a pretty "clean" pull. Sounds like you will be up and running in no time! -Greg

 

[gon2srf]

Nice work Scott! Looks like a pretty "clean" pull. Sounds like you will be up and running in no time! -Greg

Thank you Greg, your help was invaluble.