any locker made here in the USA that's just as good or better than ARB would probably be a little cheaper, i think. probably by a small margin. i'm thinking shipping costs.
if the value of the dollar keeps falling than ARB would get more expensive.
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any locker made here in the USA that's just as good or better than ARB would probably be a little cheaper, i think. probably by a small margin. i'm thinking shipping costs.
if the value of the dollar keeps falling than ARB would get more expensive.
After reading 3 threads... It's not "made" here... The Zip locker is shipped here in pieces and assembled...
Randy key's up on page 2 of that pirate thread... I meant to link it from page one but that was just the page I was on...
I'm not saying the one china locker or a locker made over there and shipped over hear in pieces to be put together are one and the same... My point is, a cheap ass and his money will so be parted regardless...
$200 difference? Come on... And who cares HOW it's made... WHAT's it made out of? Would be my biggest point...
China bikes run? But they stop when the threads pull out of the casting...
Common metals, or Pot metals... No thank you...
And no, I'm not going to build a test rig like ARB has just to prove if ARB's test is accurate or not... I think they've got a handle on that.
Randy key's up on page 2 of that pirate thread... I meant to link it from page one but that was just the page I was on...
I'm not saying the one china locker or a locker made over there and shipped over hear in pieces to be put together are one and the same... My point is, a cheap ass and his money will so be parted regardless...
$200 difference? Come on... And who cares HOW it's made... WHAT's it made out of? Would be my biggest point...
China bikes run? But they stop when the threads pull out of the casting...
Common metals, or Pot metals... No thank you...
And no, I'm not going to build a test rig like ARB has just to prove if ARB's test is accurate or not... I think they've got a handle on that.
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I posted a link to Harrop that sells front & rear Eaton E-Lockers for 80s. Jt of just differentials has posted in the past that he looked into importing them but it wasn't cost effective. I'm sure you can buy them direct from Oz.
Hilux- you're quite easily influenced by marketing and you're not open to giving new products a chance, it seems. Have you looked into the TJM locker? Oh wait...it's cheaper, and saving money with a cheaper product is "ridiculous"- better to buy the more expensive product, lest risk being seen as one of those who should "find a less expensive to own and operate 4WD". BTW I've got a bridge to sell you. It's even got the ARB label on it, and it's expensive, too! Right up your alley.
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Can we get TJM lockers here?? Last I checked the answer was no. Would be cool though.
From only the second sentence from the link you posted.... did you actually read any of it??
Even if the parts are made in china. They are assembled by Yukon over here. That means they have quality control in the hands of Yukon. Normally Chinese made products are only as good as their quality control (normally bad) With Yukon doing that it means they are all made and assembled to Yukon's specs.
That being said I do try to stay away from products that have anything to do with China the few times there are price comparable products that have nothing to do with them.
(not saying they can't make quality products, just that I don't agree with certain economic practices they have)
From only the second sentence from the link you posted.... did you actually read any of it??
Even if the parts are made in china. They are assembled by Yukon over here. That means they have quality control in the hands of Yukon. Normally Chinese made products are only as good as their quality control (normally bad) With Yukon doing that it means they are all made and assembled to Yukon's specs.
That being said I do try to stay away from products that have anything to do with China the few times there are price comparable products that have nothing to do with them.
(not saying they can't make quality products, just that I don't agree with certain economic practices they have)
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i have emailed the folks over at TJM about purchasing their air locker and they have said they are working on setting up a distributor here in the US.
Mind showing me where there was anything about a locker for a HP 8"? I looked all over that site only to find the locker for the 9.5".
He says the Hilux version will work for the front. I'd call and double check on that though.
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Their website says that here:
99-ELKR9334-00
I called and they have two in stock in Michigan for the 80 series rear axle 12 bolt but they come at a $$ price which is too much for me to justify. I didn't price the fronts.
99-ELKR9334-00
I called and they have two in stock in Michigan for the 80 series rear axle 12 bolt but they come at a $$ price which is too much for me to justify. I didn't price the fronts.
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Well he could only tell me suggested retail which was about $1,400 or so from memory. Distributors can sell for less he said.
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"Hilux" is a VERY broad and general name in other parts of the world... I'd take into account a guys location to what he says.
It's the same as our V6 one... Just flipped over.
"‘90-97 Landcruiser (FJ-80 and FZJ-80) uses a high pinion, reverse-cut front diff based on the V6/Turbo rear diff. The high pinion design allows the steering on these vehicles to run behind the axle and under the driveshaft. Carriers (i.e. lockers, LSD's) from the 8" V6/Turbo diffs can be installed (direct bolt-in) in the hi-pinion diff. The entire diff is also a direct bolt-in to all front and rear axles that use an 8" diff."
Erik's Toyota Differential info
If a diff is non directional, the two will work... If not, it'll be like using it in reverse the whole time.
I don't know about a clutch pack style LTD slip, but a TT is not as lucky... You take the case apart and flip the guts over, or the case, then reassemble.
Also, "4cyl 8" diff carriers (cases) do not fit without custom carrier bearing adapters ($),"
Erik's Toyota Differential info
I would advise against this
I would advise against this. The grizzly is just a cheap knockoff of a detroit locker. zip locker is a cheap knockoff of an arb.
ARB lockers are strong & proven, in this case you get what you pay for. In my opinion with the knockoffs you get less than what you pay for, even though the are a bit less money. Just youtube "yukon zip locker" and watch the video.
As for the eaton e-locker, this may be a decent option, but they are not readily available in the us. Why not arb?
I would advise against this. The grizzly is just a cheap knockoff of a detroit locker. zip locker is a cheap knockoff of an arb.
ARB lockers are strong & proven, in this case you get what you pay for. In my opinion with the knockoffs you get less than what you pay for, even though the are a bit less money. Just youtube "yukon zip locker" and watch the video.
As for the eaton e-locker, this may be a decent option, but they are not readily available in the us. Why not arb?
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Tapage
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the only thing that I can add here is I've been broke 2 rears of my 60 series and my old ARB ( more than 8 years ) still there with the same original O rings 
Hmm I wouldn't read too much into a test done by ARB against the Zip locker. Untill an independent unbiased lab tests it I won't listen to that.
Now if you look in my sig you see I have ARBs. But at the same time I don't mind a quality product that competes. Chrome Moly internals sound pretty good to me.
Now if you look in my sig you see I have ARBs. But at the same time I don't mind a quality product that competes. Chrome Moly internals sound pretty good to me.
You know... I been thinking about that. One can pull the "until an independent unbiased lab or person tests it" thing all day, and you're right....
But at the end of the day we do know one thing. An ARB will (more than likely) break a shaft b/f it explodes... Barring breaking the other, you're still mobile
The other...
You're only out a locker AND GEARS if it won't... And you've lost the whole diff and potentially getting it out and home... And that experience is worth? And who the hell is going to build a test lab for lockers? I wouldn't wait for that day...
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You seem wrong... I'm a realist, remember? That means I'm not naive to everything that just comes down the pike, "b/c it's new and untested"
and I know you get what you pay for...I also know how much gears are, and know the average person doesn't do their own. The solution? Learn to do them yourself and save that difference in LABOR alone! I just think it's foolish to get to this point and cheap out... See my last post...
EDIT: And I've said it before and I'll say it again... If you can afford to drive an 80 series and need to make financial decisions like saving $400 on cheap lockers... You need to find yourself another 4WD. There are plenty out there not as expensive to operate.
Have you looked into the TJM locker? Oh wait...it's cheaper, and saving money with a cheaper product is "ridiculous"- better to buy the more expensive product, lest risk being seen as one of those who should "find a less expensive to own and operate 4WD". BTW I've got a bridge to sell you. It's even got the ARB label on it, and it's expensive, too! Right up your alley.
Are you really this narrow sighted? Until TJM's reputation is questioned, and until they're made in China WTF does anything you're saying have to do with the conversation at hand?
I read somewhere, and I'm not rereading it, they (pretty sure on Pirate) said the spiders were 4320...
There is a whole lot more "internals" to a diff than spiders you know... If it's not the case, everything's "internal"
See: alaskacruiser
What do you know?
please, please... I'm just messing with you...
AND YOUR BIASED OPINION!!! Prove it! I want facts!!!
sorry, got carried away...
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