driving on beach sand

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I have ran my 80 with 285/75 Bridgestone Dueler AT's the old ones.
I usually air down to about 20psi.
I have gone out without airing down with a full load of people and had no problems.
Just stay off the steeps course stuff
 
Steve, you oughta put a copy of that list in the big "expedition" thread that's running now...
 
Doc said:
http://www.pullpal.com/

The one really good recovery device I've seen for someone really stuck in loose low traction areas.
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I would hate to be the rig or worse/ person in the way of that anchor if it every broke loose under full tension.

Sam
 
Most beach driving can be done with mid 20's pressure allthough this will depend on the type of sand,type of tyre,and weight of the vehicle and also the speed at which the vehicle will be travelling. Lower pressures menan lower speeds. With the Cooper ST i found that 24psi was adequate even in soft sand.If you get stuck you can allways drop some more. I dont like going lower than necessary because it takes longer to reinflate. The Nissan in the pic had to drop to 20psi becase of rigid sidewalls. Started at 24 as I did but had trouble on the dunes.
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Ah, the Cooper S/T - one of the finest all around tires that can also take a beating on the trail. I'm on my second set of these and they really please me. They do deep snow, all iterations of sand, and in an impromteau comparison in shallow claylike mud with swampers I prevailed. Twice. They also let me beat a military HUMMV on a snowy hill cliimb challenge.

Great tire.

One line of thinking is to run the pressure low, but leave reserve levels of low-ness in the event you get stuck. This way, you can drop pressure further and get unstuck.

Kinda like never wheel alone fully locked. When you finally get stuck WAY back there, you're going to need another fully locked vehicle just to get near you.

IdahoDoug
 
What's that mounted on the driver's side of the brush bar of the lead vehicle? At first I thought it was a solar unit to keep the batteries charged, but now it looks like solar collectors for a small hot-water tank.
 
IMHO, deep soft sand is the one thing I have found that MTRs are not good at. I wouldn't bother changing them out (because they are so good at everything else) but just be aware you will bog down in soft sand. Low pressure (18 or so should be good enough), low range and spinning the steering lock to lock should get you out of almost anything.

Although I haven't tried it yet on a vehicle as heavy as an 80, for my Heep, winching to a shovel in the sand with the handle pointed away and somebody standing on it works (when a pull pal isn't available).
 
jpwelling said:
IMHO, deep soft sand is the one thing I have found that MTRs are not good at. I wouldn't bother changing them out (because they are so good at everything else) but just be aware you will bog down in soft sand. Low pressure (18 or so should be good enough), low range and spinning the steering lock to lock should get you out of almost anything.

Although I haven't tried it yet on a vehicle as heavy as an 80, for my Heep, winching to a shovel in the sand with the handle pointed away and somebody standing on it works (when a pull pal isn't available).
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wow, amazing that you could do that with a shovel... somehow I doubt that would work with an 80, though....
 
Not facing the wrong way in OZ. I got a set from TJM and for the life of me couldn't figure out how they wouldn't mount vertically without covering a light.

One call later, I was told that down there they mount them at that angle and let the tips mount to the roof.

I ended up bandsawing mine vertically in half to aleviate that problem.

canyoneer said:
That was my first guess, but then I decided they were too small, and facing the wrong way.
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I'm happy driving on sandy beaches aired down to 25, maybe not aired down at all if the sand is at all wet. But I'm smoooooooth. The one time I got stuck (real deep soft sand, uphill) I aired down to 18-19 and drove out in second start. This is beach, not dunes mind you. Also a thong (flip-flop) digs pretty well and provides pretty good traction. Doesn't hurt anything if it goes flying either.

David
 
i spend my summers on martha's vineyard driving around chappaquidick out to cape pogue and whatnot searching for the big one. in my 80 i run from 12-15psi on 285 bfg at's and have never had a problem, ran a ford ranger at 25 on bfg ats and had no problem either, but in my dads 100 a few years ago we ran 10-12 on stock dunlops and it was a little tougher in the softer stuff i'm not sure if it was because of the less agressive tread but thats my guess. i dont think you would have a problem breaking a bead unless you were running high speeds and decided to cut it hard, that sand out there is pretty soft and you are usually moving at relatively slow speeds.
 
zebrabeefj40 said:
I'd bet they are fishing rod holders...
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That,s correct they are rod holders
 
ooh, yeah, I've got some of those...
Except we didn't use em for that...
 
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