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Sure, there’s some of that.

There’s also a lot of, for the lack of a better word, (quite repetitive) groupthink going on to the point where even if someone likes or preferred the damn thing (gasp) they’d probably hesitate to say so - at least here on Mud. And no, it's not just in this thread, nor just in this sub-section. Probably why the “other” forum sees way more 250 traffic. I know... who cares, we don't want them here anyway.
Good morning my little honey bees buzzing around your precious 200 Series honey. Another fine morning to slip into the hive like a Japanese murder hornet the 250 is and remind you who conquered and claimed the Land Cruiser name in the states. 🖕
 
The 2nd gen in its most aggressive TRD Pro trim also RTIs a piss poor 351 so it's almost a non-sequitur as a capable off-roader.
Yes. Much like the Tundra, they are an unstoppably bulletproof platform for building. The TRD Pro package is mostly an appearance upcharge with 1-2” of lift and a bit more suspension travel. And cool sounding exhaust.

These guys do a great job with the big fat bloated Tree:
 
Yes. Much like the Tundra, they are an unstoppably bulletproof platform for building. The TRD Pro package is mostly an appearance upcharge with 1-2” of lift and a bit more suspension travel. And cool sounding exhaust.

These guys do a great job with the big fat bloated Tree:

These guys at Tandem are the best. They installed the supercharger and brake kit on my truck. Super knowledgeable, honest, friendly, passionate, and devoted to their craft. Highly recommend for anyone within a few hundred miles of DFW if you need any work done on your rig and want very competent professionals to do it.
 
The sequoia is a non starter due to not having a full time 4WD transfer case.
You can leave a 2nd gen Sequoia in 4Hi all the time if you want. Just make sure you also leave the center diff unlocked. It’s the same as the 200 with the added option of 2hi. Toyota did away with it in the 3rd gen Tree, along with the roll-down rear window and usable cargo space
 
Probably why the “other” forum sees way more 250 traffic.
there is a reason we have sections

my job is on 46 th floor. i dont wander into randomly 75 th floor

we dont post supra chat or ferrari chat on this forum either …

the 100 series section gets more 100 series tradfic than here - gasp 😮
 
You can leave a 2nd gen Sequoia in 4Hi all the time if you want. Just make sure you also leave the center diff unlocked. It’s the same as the 200 with the added option of 2hi. Toyota did away with it in the 3rd gen Tree, along with the roll-down rear window and usable cargo space
never been inside a sequoia

how do interior compare to its corresponding lc generations?
 
I dont really care if my LX makes it to 500k miles TBH. It will be 44 years before it gets there at the rate im going and I’ll be 80 years old.
Perhaps you should ditch that electric toy you drive and enjoy the 200 daily.

Better enjoy now than what may happen in 10 or 20 years.

Would say RIP to that Chevy 😎
 
never been inside a sequoia

how do interior compare to its corresponding lc generations?

Imagine a three-row SUV Tundra. Different from our 570 but most comparable to the 2008-11 LC200. There was no mid-gen refresh in the Sequoia…it barely changed 2008-2022.

I love our 570, but it’s my wife’s daily, and she wishes we had gone with a Sequoia with 2nd row captains chairs.

Solid rear axle? Mid-size-ish? Lexus features? Split tailgate? Made in Japan? She doesn’t care. She wants the space for our kids and dog

We’ll get this 570 to 250k or so and probably replace it with a low-mileage ‘20-‘22 Tree.
 
Yes. Much like the Tundra, they are an unstoppably bulletproof platform for building. The TRD Pro package is mostly an appearance upcharge with 1-2” of lift and a bit more suspension travel. And cool sounding exhaust.

These guys do a great job with the big fat bloated Tree:


Yup, I've come across that channel a few times. Pretty incredible how they build and make that hippo work!

Most any rig can be made to wheel. It's harder to make a large platform like that do the business. That long wheelbase and poor breakover. Lack of articulation unless removing the sways which then compromises on road stability. At least for the Tundra and 3rd gen Sequoia, big solid axle diff which is an asset when hauling but then becomes a giant low point anchor. These probably need 35s to perform at a level the 112.2" wheelbase rigs can do on 32s.

The Sequoia and Tundra is much better at competing against their respective domestic models in their native use cases. With a dollop of added adventure capability and to your point build potential.
 
Imagine a three-row SUV Tundra. Different from our 570 but most comparable to the 2008-11 LC200. There was no mid-gen refresh in the Sequoia…it barely changed 2008-2022.

I love our 570, but it’s my wife’s daily, and she wishes we had gone with a Sequoia with 2nd row captains chairs.

Solid rear axle? Mid-size-ish? Lexus features? Split tailgate? Made in Japan? She doesn’t care. She wants the space for our kids and dog

We’ll get this 570 to 250k or so and probably replace it with a low-mileage ‘20-‘22 Tree.
gotcha makes sense

we dont have that generation tundra but we have few Tacos on the farm and the interior is cheap (as expected)

interestingly i dislike captain chairs in a big car as it takes away from seating capacity which is why i bought it for

let us know when you buy that sequoia. my 08 lc is at almost 300. hope to stay around till 500
 
I do have a soft place for Sequoias as an extended trip wagon. Probably at its best as an overlander with reasonable off-road chops for fire roads.

Now I'm getting distracted. Love this guys 1st gen overlanding build that has better space than a 200-series, but not too massive.

I want my 200-series to be that and while a bit tighter, still is a strong overlander contender. Which IMO the LC250 starts becoming too tight for.

Actually, I'm wrong and who am I kidding. The 200-series and real LCs are not just strong. It is the recognized King of Overlanding for good reason. With a core that can be a strong tow pig, rocklander, date night - ultimate swiss army knife.
 
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Now I'm getting distracted.
better discussion than the trash in this thread
The 200-series and real LCs are not just strong. It is the recognized King of Overlanding for good reason. With a core that can be a strong tow pig, rocklander, date night - ultimate swiss army knife.
hallelujah

if i changed one thing about my 200 - aside from its ugliness would be more cargo space behind 3rd row
 
I do have a soft place for Sequoias as an extended trip wagon. Probably at its best as an overlander with reasonable off-road chops for fire roads.

Now I'm getting distracted. Love this guys 1st gen overlanding build that has better space than a 200-series, but not too massive.

I want my 200-series to be that and while a bit tighter, still is a strong overlander contender. Which IMO the LC250 starts becoming too tight for.

Actually, I'm wrong and who am I kidding. The 200-series and real LCs are not just strong. It is the recognized King of Overlanding for good reason. With a core that can be a strong tow pig, rocklander, date night - ultimate swiss army knife.
Too bad Toyota doesn’t build new 200’s anymore.

I’m going to enjoy mine for as long as possible.

They are still the absolute king in this segment with the least amount of compromises.
 
Yup, I've come across that channel a few times. Pretty incredible how they build and make that hippo work!

Most any rig can be made to wheel. It's harder to make a large platform like that do the business. That long wheelbase and poor breakover. Lack of articulation unless removing the sways which then compromises on road stability. At least for the Tundra and 3rd gen Sequoia, big solid axle diff which is an asset when hauling but then becomes a giant low point anchor. These probably need 35s to perform at a level the 112.2" wheelbase rigs can do on 32s.

The Sequoia and Tundra is much better at competing against their respective domestic models in their native use cases. With a dollop of added adventure capability and to your point build potential.
Agreed, any rig can be build to purpose, especially a body-on-frame 3UR-equipped Toyota. :)

I've always had a soft spot for the gen 2 Sequoia. Just seems really well thought out feature-wise and the only real problems to consider (assuming you've invested in a solid aftermarket suspension) are ground clearance and the rear IFS.

It's less than 2" wider than a 200 and only 10" longer, doesn't weigh any more, yet has a significantly higher-rated front axle.

Seems reasonable that 37s, which are relatively easy to install on a 2nd gen Sequoia, would be needed to approximate the performance of a 200 on 35s. Already geared at 4.30 like the Tundras.
 
interestingly i dislike captain chairs in a big car as it takes away from seating capacity which is why i bought it for

let us know when you buy that sequoia. my 08 lc is at almost 300. hope to stay around till 500
Yeah, I would buy a bench seat Sequoia for sure. It is a 40/20/40 split, and the middle 20 section can be removed if desired. And just like that, you've got captain's chairs minus the armrests.

I have a buddy who retrofitted his TRD Pro with a bench seat. He has a lot of kids :)

At your current rate of driving, how old will you be when you reach 500k miles in your '08?
 
never been inside a sequoia

how do interior compare to its corresponding lc generations?
Lots more hard plastic in the dash and center console with
never been inside a sequoia

how do interior compare to its corresponding lc generations?

Lots of hard plastic on the dash and center console with massive cup holders in the Sequoia. Big comfy seats, but they don't come with the semi aniline leather that comes in the LC200. I traded my Sequoia for an LC200 and love them both, but the Sequoia is not the same in terms of comfort and lux. Land Cruiser cannot compete in terms of space, but the LC200 was the Toyota top of the line in terms of build.
 
Perhaps you should ditch that electric toy you drive and enjoy the 200 daily.

Better enjoy now than what may happen in 10 or 20 years.

Would say RIP to that Chevy 😎
The Bolt is more fun to drive. And 1/8 the cost to drive. An 1/3 the price to purchase. And I dont care if it rusts out from driving it in the salt in the winter. Win win.

The LX is a tool for a job for me. Its a nice truck but I am not a Toyota koolaid drinker. I just buy what works for my needs, and the 200 series was it.
 
You must be the first car enthusiast who actually likes a Bolt. You could start a one man forum on that 😂
Who doesnt like a car with ridiculous torque that can spin tires at 35 mph and has a super low center of gravity? I only wish it had an LSD so it could put the power down better.

Also, I said its MORE fun to drive. I did not say it was the most fun car ever. Even if its not that fun, its still more fun than an LX :rofl:
 
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