Dog discipline Question.

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[quote author=TJDIV link=board=3;threadid=11138;start=msg101053#msg101053 date=1076189804]
I think my lacking is in the patience department.[/quote]

Damn, wait until you have kids, especially a son--dogs are a cakewalk in comparison!

Anyway, glad to hear Fang is getting a stay of execution. :cheers: Isn't it bad enough you had his balls cut off? :flipoff2:

IDave is right on the redirecting trick--works with kids, too. :D
 
[quote author=Gumby link=board=3;threadid=11138;start=msg101094#msg101094 date=1076197109]
I suppose a Lab/Newf is easier on a cat than a Wolf with herpes. :D

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We got a new kitten a year ago. Thing wasn't afraid of anything. Was all over Vlkey. We have pictures of her hanging on his lip by her teeth. He loved her. My wife just adored that kitty. One evening she snuck outside for the first time. (the kitty, not my wife, Romer) I found her in the morning frozen to the ground (Vlkey led me to her). She looked like she'd been licked to death. :'(
 
Poochie gettin back
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[quote author=IDave link=board=3;threadid=11138;start=msg101162#msg101162 date=1076204381]
One evening she snuck outside for the first time. (the kitty, not my wife, Romer) :'(
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Whats that about? I haven't seen your wife in years!
 
Well, hmm. She did live in Colorado for a few years.....
 
[quote author=IDave link=board=3;threadid=11138;start=msg101236#msg101236 date=1076212339]
Well, hmm. She did live in Colorado for a few years..... [/quote]

Does she chase cars?

Your kids ever do anything like this to her?
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[quote author=Junk link=board=3;threadid=11138;start=msg101241#msg101241 date=1076212736]

Your kids ever do anything like this to her?
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I bet thats your son and you told him you'd give him a quarter if he pulled her skirt open. After all, what woman is going to get mad at a cute little kid.

Teaching him to be a fawker, like his old man, eh?
 
What we have here is a failure to communicate. You need to get the book "The Dog Listener". I have 3 dogs, Pit Bull 85lbs, Golden/Wolf mix 100lbs, and a Border Collie mix 35lbs. Read the book, you owe it to your dog and yourself. You will love the relationship you will have with your dog after you read this book and learn how to communicate. It is not what you learned in any dog training class. It is not anything like the advise you have gotten so far. Don't put your dog down until you have read this book and followed what you will learn.
 
First of all, I am not a dog trainer or behaviorist but I do work in the pet industry and this is what I have picked up from talking to trainers.

First, he is starting to test you. This is what you do (sounds stupid but works well). Next time he does this you flip him on his back and put your teeth around his throat. This is exactly how dominant dogs show their dominance. You do not need to bite hard. NEVER NEVER back down from him EVER! If you are ever in fear that he will actually seriously hurt you-it is your call.

Second, show the dog much praise and attention when behaving well.

When chewing something bad as quickly as possible give him a toy to chew on and clearly say "YES".
 
Sounds like you got the problem under control, but this thread brough back a funny memory from college on ths subject that I thought that I would share.

My roomate and I had a full blooded Chabanule(chow/lab/cocker spanule ;)) that wondered up to the house as a pup. The dog was very loving and very intelligent but constantly dug holes in the yard. One weekend, my roomate and I spent the better part of a weekend landscaping the yard and planted a couple trees. The next day we came home from class to find Jack(my roomate's dog) laying in the front yard in a 2' x 3' hole under the roots of one of the trees we had just planted....well, for my roomate that was the last straw. He ran over and tackled the dog(aprox 60lbs.) before he could get away. Picked him up, shoved him in the hole, and then put him in a head lock. The then began "feeding" Jack dirt from the hole he had just dug while taunting him with comments such as "oh..you like that...huh...you gonna dig anymore d@mn holes in this yard?"

With out a doubt one of the funnier thing I have ever seen...but also with out a doubt it worked. Jack never dug another hole in the yard then entire time we lived there.

Good luck w/your pup.

Ryan
 
[quote author=Gumby link=board=3;threadid=11138;start=msg101993#msg101993 date=1076354106]
Just ordered it. About $16 from Borders.
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I'm on it. About the biting thing around the neck, I don't know....I heard it works. However, this may also mean I'll have to hurry and find a female dog to hump on when my boy dogs hump each other.

BTW...it is working. He's gotten 100% better since I posted this topic, and I think the neuter is kicking in. Although, my girlfriends little black dog (7 months, just neutered) is about to run head on into an ass kicking training session. I guess I'm learning patience...but I still get incredibly pissed off at them.

Oh well. Thanks a bunch; PITBULL is right, when the "relationship" is good, dogs are fun to be around.

IV
 
[quote author=Pitbull link=board=3;threadid=11138;start=msg101921#msg101921 date=1076344596]
What we have here is a failure to communicate. You need to get the book "The Dog Listener". I have 3 dogs, Pit Bull 85lbs, Golden/Wolf mix 100lbs, and a Border Collie mix 35lbs. Read the book, you owe it to your dog and yourself. You will love the relationship you will have with your dog after you read this book and learn how to communicate. It is not what you learned in any dog training class. It is not anything like the advise you have gotten so far. Don't put your dog down until you have read this book and followed what you will learn.
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Hey, Pitbull. Could you give us a brief synopsis, so we have an idea. Maybe if its good we can all go out and buy a copy, but I would like more than just the commercial hype.
 
[quote author=IDave link=board=3;threadid=11138;start=msg102093#msg102093 date=1076363314]
Hey, Pitbull. Could you give us a brief synopsis, so we have an idea. Maybe if its good we can all go out and buy a copy, but I would like more than just the commercial hype.
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It's about understanding dogs and using that knnowledge to communicate with them in such a way that they do what you want them to do. Very interesting and easy to understand and use. It also makes sense. It is built on the same animal understanding that the guy who is known as the Horse Whisper uses. He is the one that the movie was written about. He can take a horse that is aggressive and never been ridden and within 30 minutes have it doing everything he wants with a rider on its back. He wrote the forward introducing the lady that applied his ideas to dogs and wrote this book. Its worth the $ but if you want to read it for free I am sure it is in your local Library.
 
Must be story night for me as this is #2.

In college, I dated a girl in Indiana who lived on a farm an hour from college. I love farms, so I was delighted when she invited me down for their family reunion. You haven't lived until you've been to one of these in a farming family.

I get along with every living creature on God's green earth and have some amazing stories about full on guard dogs rolling over to let me pet their stomachs, wild Lynx letting me slowly walk right up to them, etc. But her parents had a s***zu that hated me. It also bit their family once in a while and was known as a problem. With no warning, it once darted out from under the coffee table and literally latched onto my calf.

So we're at the reunion when her mom realized she'd left the potato salad. I offered to go retrieve it, and forgot about the dog until it hit the screen door at waist height (silently) when I arrived at their house. I thought about luring it into the garage, then locking it in and going around back, but the thing was going nuts because I was the only one there. About now, I was realizing why asian kings used them for guard dogs. They're only about 10" high, but mean.

I wandered over to the barn looking for a heavy blanket, or fishing net when what did I spy hanging from a hook? Welding gloves! The full leather type that go up to the elbows.

Back at the door, the s***zu was going nuts to get at me, and I timed it when he was stepping back for another run at the screen. Grabbed him in mid air, nearly dropped him, then hooked him under the forelegs and held him up at my face level. Big mistake. This absolutely enraged him and he became a contortionist. He also began a very shrewd body thrashing - wiggling not just randomly but in a rythm that took advantage of every ounce he weighed. It was like holding a Northern Pike in the middle of it's body, and I realized the thing was just a brick of muscle. After about 90 seconds of this, I quit laughing at my little game and realized my arms were fatiguing. Holy Crap. So, I bent down and rested my elbows on my knees. 5 minutes (not a typo) and he had not shown a single iota of slowing down or getting tired. Snapping, violent wiggling and glaring at me with an eery silence showed me I had a miniature Cujo adventure going on.

Realizing the little punk was going to best me in endurance, I started looking for alternatives and took him out the front door. I intended to toss him gently out the door, but wasn't too sure that I would be fast enough - he was just getting warmed up! Then I spied the hedge. 30 feet from the door, about 15 feet in diameter and 4 feet tall, very dense. Perfect to toss pissed off s***zu end over end into to slow him down, which is exactly what I did. That little bastard used his momentum to plunge most of the way out the other side, rather than trying to stop and come back when he hit. Uncanny. He was making tracks back toward the front door and got there only seconds after I did. Completely silent. No wasted energy on this bundle of evil.

I felt like a coward, but I closed the garage door to completely isolate my car, put the potato salad in it, then hit the opener and ran for the car. When I backed out of the garage, he was completely at peace, just sitting in the shade. He never messed with me again, and I never messed with him either. I think we both agreed it was a draw....

DougM
 

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