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Ok, you've heard it, "they" do lurk here. Put in your requests!!!
Do "They" lurk here??
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Ok, you've heard it, "they" do lurk here. Put in your requests!!!
They reason why I say that online responses mean nothing is because:Paid focus groups have one thing in mind... their next paycheck. Real LC owners are unpaid extreme focus groups that focus on cruisers because they love them, not because they are paid to "check them out". I'd say we verify our ownership quite well, and field testing... well take a lookat any of the bigger forums, especially the 80 series stuff.
"go search and find my post where I claimed my 1998 Toyota Land Cruiser with the rear locking differential broke down in Northern Canada. It left me stranded for 3 weeks as I was so deep in the bush it took me forever to get out. I had to catch and eat squirrel to survive"
Now, lets say some newbie Toyota researcher who is lurking finds this info and documents it as a breakdown in Northern Canada. I could possibly have never owned a 1998 Land Cruiser, I might never of been stranded, I possibly could not of eaten the squirrel meat.
In contrast, let say Toyota Canada pulls their data of Land Cruiser owners in Canada who bought a Land Cruiser from Toyota Canada and offered them $50 for a research group. What if I told the same story after they verified my ownership?
The paid focus group would likely be a little more ethical in the conclusion than if they randomly lurked and found info.
My 2 cents of a wishlist:
- Decent cargo bay lights, the current feeble glow is useless if you are standing somewhere in the dark
- Redesign the absolutely useless and slow audio / satnav / phone system. A $10 MP3 player has a better user interface than this piece of C***
- Improve functionality of trip computer
- Reposition the power steering reservoir to have standard space for a second battery
- Use more durable plastic for headlight lenses, current plastic is very susceptible to dust and sand scouring
- Replace headlights with HID bulbs
- Ground clearing of the spare wheel is very limited, specially when equipped with aux fuel tank
- Standard suspension is too soft, bottoms out even with a little load over a speedhump
- A minor gripe but still unbecoming for such an expensive vehicle; the Optitronic dashboard lights are blue(ish) while the rest of the instrument panel is green.
- Inability to control passengers windows from the driver seat when lock-out is on
- Cargo bay plastic unsuitable for off-road use, one trip will show scratches everywhere
- Lack of proper trailer electric connection next to factory tow/pintle hook
- Decent cargo bay lights, the current feeble glow is useless if you are standing somewhere in the dark
- Redesign the absolutely useless and slow audio / satnav / phone system. A $10 MP3 player has a better user interface than this piece of C***
- Improve functionality of trip computer
- Reposition the power steering reservoir to have standard space for a second battery
- Use more durable plastic for headlight lenses, current plastic is very susceptible to dust and sand scouring
- Replace headlights with HID bulbs
- Ground clearing of the spare wheel is very limited, specially when equipped with aux fuel tank
- Standard suspension is too soft, bottoms out even with a little load over a speedhump
- A minor gripe but still unbecoming for such an expensive vehicle; the Optitronic dashboard lights are blue(ish) while the rest of the instrument panel is green.
- Inability to control passengers windows from the driver seat when lock-out is on
- Cargo bay plastic unsuitable for off-road use, one trip will show scratches everywhere
- Lack of proper trailer electric connection next to factory tow/pintle hook
"They" wouldn't be lurking here, if the online responses meant nothing. I'm pretty sure that "they" are also capable of sifting through the BS too (like your squirrel adventure).
I'll take the opinions of seasoned 'Mud members over anyone else any day of the week.
And just so you know, there is a TON of valid info on this site, but hey, if you don't beleive me, start a new topic and take a poll!
I was thinking they had altimeters? I test drove a 04 GX470 and I swore it had one? Maybe not.
Why wouldn't they lurk? I don't think they would lurk to find out how many break downs people have or how long things last but I think they would lurk to find out how they could make something a little better, like someone coming on and saying I wish the seat went back a little further because it would be make it easier to....
Just my $0.02
Our 2003 GX has an altimeter.
One of the guys on the Ford Mustang forums had his warranty claims denied in part due to the posts he had of his racing activities. One has to assume forums and the internet are pretty well understood by anyone selling any product these days.
If Lexus is listening - fix my dealers insane service policies. I should have bought a Toyota. My local Toyota service manager was much more honest and flexible when dealing with my rusted out '94 FJ80 bought in another state, than my Lexus dealer has been in just setting up the 5000 mile service visit for the 2010 LX570 I bought new from them 4-5 months ago. Sad.....
If Lexus is listening - fix my dealers insane service policies. I should have bought a Toyota. My local Toyota service manager was much more honest and flexible when dealing with my rusted out '94 FJ80 bought in another state, than my Lexus dealer has been in just setting up the 5000 mile service visit for the 2010 LX570 I bought new from them 4-5 months ago. Sad.....
I'm curious what needs setting up? It's just an oil change, right? They won't let you come in?
By the way, I do agree dealers in the main suck. I had BMW of Monrovia try and warranty fix the horn on my sedan and they somehow managed to pop a valve spring and then denied there was anything wrong. Eventually got hooked up by a shop I know that was able to get it fixed under warranty. Only a small five buck part on a $45k engine but boy did they make a sweet running car sick out of nowhere..luckily no lasting damage. Amazing how careless people are when it's not their property.
Just annoying dealer games. I call for the appointment and am given a time to show up and then told the 5000 mile service (oil & oil filter change, tire rotation, brake pad inspection) will take 2.5 hours. So I ask about a loaner, I'm told loaners are only given out for 3 hour or longer service visits. I ask if I can rent a car so I can go back to work and am told the dealer doesn't offer rentals. I ask what the service appointment could possibly involve to actually take 2.5 hours and am given a bunch of BS about "inspections" taking time.
Anyway, I call Lexus USA customer service and they call the dealer and set up a "one time" loaner. Bring the truck in, get the loaner, and the dealer ends up up needing to keep the truck overnight to finish the service. Probably all the plastic they have to remove to find the engine on a LX570
. None of this is really a big deal other than that the Toyota dealer never gave me this much BS when servicing my '94 FJ80 and both they and my Ford dealer pretty much comp rentals by default. Guess I expected more given Lexus's vaunted service reputation. My BMW dealer stories are much worse. $60 unauthorized wiper blade replacements in the middle of the California summer on a 1 year old car. Drive 3 miles off the lot and overheat on the highway. Then I'm told it was completely independent of the cooling system flush they had just done while replacing the broken water pump impeller at 30K miles. No replacement tires in the US. I'm told I by BMW USA that I really should replace all 4 tires with a different brand because of a flat on one with maybe 3K miles on the car. I'll never own a BMW again.
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Interesting post on autoblog where a Ford exec mentions that they monitor "all the blogs" and forums and are now responding to a particular thread or set of threads.
Toyota is here.....
My request to Totota for the 200 Series: a 3rd row seat that can be removed without leaving gaping holes in the trim panels with brackets stickinng out, or better yet, the option of no 3rd row seat at all!
AB: When did you first become aware of these Raptor frame claims?
Hameedi: We monitor all the blogs – I think there are three or four different versions of Raptor online forums. We saw that there was one particular run where several Raptors bent their frames on the same obstacle.
SVT boss goes on record about Ford Raptor frame damage claims [w/video]Hameedi: We monitor all the blogs – I think there are three or four different versions of Raptor online forums. We saw that there was one particular run where several Raptors bent their frames on the same obstacle.
Toyota is here.....
My request to Totota for the 200 Series: a 3rd row seat that can be removed without leaving gaping holes in the trim panels with brackets stickinng out, or better yet, the option of no 3rd row seat at all!
FORD is spinning everyone, trying to get themselves out of this mess.
