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Hopefully this helps the next guy either fitting big tires or those with aggressive offsets. The 200-series has some pretty beefy fender lips so I'll start by saying what's here will buy limited more clearance. Real clearance may require cutting the fender lip or getting more aggressive.

I'm fitting 35x12.5" tires, on +35 offset (1" spacer on stock offset 60mm wheels).

I've always known the clearance was really close. The front I was able get the clearance I need with just bending some tabs by hand and moving the liner above the tabs. The rear will generally tuck just fine when articulated. It's the full square sit situation, when hitting or landing whoops hard, that the tire shoulders are challenged for space and just kiss the lip edges in my setup. Note I have a stock panhard and I find the axle to sit pretty centered at full stuff. For anyone running an adjusted panhard, the sit will not be even between the body, and may see more interference on the passenger side.

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Tool:​


I opted for a cheapy (but not the cheapest), anticipating needing to mod. It did the job. This one is a bit larger than the cheapest ones and has a few inches more reach. I've owned an Eastwood before (last guy never returned before moving out of state). This knockoff is perfectly functional. But none of them should be manhandled. Rather use the tool to progressively work the fender 2-4 inches at a time. Overlapping sections being worked.

Lube the washer/lock nut combination on the back of the longest adjust bar. A small hit of WD40 is just fine. That one sees a lot of pressure and don't want to spin off the nut while using the tool.

Also need a heat gun. Possibly hammer or mallet with a block of wood to get certain edges started.

Amazon product ASIN B07KF4M33R

Mounting roller tool to hub:​


No fender roller is going to mount to our large 5x150 hub. I was able to get the base sufficiently mounted just captured on the edges of the stock wheel nuts. Then using a random piece of metal to span the upper part of the base to support.

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Rolling tips:​


  1. Set chocks on all 3 other wheels!! (important for later)
  2. Use jack to articulate one wheel position up as high as it can go to help the tool reach the fender. AHC low makes it easy. I can imagine a stiff springed LC may have more difficulty here.
  3. Once tool is setup, need the hub to be able to turn freely. This will require putting the vehicle in neutral and releasing the parking brake. And listen to annoying warning. Important to chock car in step 1!!
  4. As said, work a 2-4" of fender lip at a time.
  5. Heat gently with heat gun first to help paint and sealer flex.
  6. Setup the roller wheel to a good bending angle. Try to keep the lip as centered on the roller wheel as possible otherwise any pressure on the edgest will just change the angle no matter how hard it's tightened
  7. Work the tool to apply pressure progressively and keep rolling back and forth the small section
  8. Overlap and work the next section. May need to adjust tool. and remember to keep fender lip centered on roller.
I only needed a few millimeters. The tool probably won't be able to bend past the seam as the lip is actually two sheets stacked (beefy!). Others that need more roll or space may be able to provide more insight and creativity.

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wow. I never knew such a tool existed. That's pretty cool!
 
Curious which fender roller Stellar Built used on their Corporate Cruiser 200 build?
 
Curious which fender roller Stellar Built used on their Corporate Cruiser 200 build?
probably one with a plasma cutter on the other end
 
I am very possibly going to 37s soon, but even with my 35s, rolling the fenders would be a huge help. I don't think I saw any AFTER photos of this being done. Does anyone have any? Maybe the photos are after and it just turned out really well. How much clearance was had after? I'd really love to find someone in Utah that can do this.

The wheel I insisted on apparently isn't helping as far as clearance and I am on my way to pick up my rig now after getting the alignment done. They're saying that the rear adjustable panhard bar I installed with the OME lift has to be cut to work. I am hoping after that, it will be better vs worse.

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I am very possibly going to 37s soon, but even with my 35s, rolling the fenders would be a huge help. I don't think I saw any AFTER photos of this being done. Does anyone have any? Maybe the photos are after and it just turned out really well. How much clearance was had after? I'd really love to find someone in Utah that can do this.

The wheel I insisted on apparently isn't helping as far as clearance and I am on my way to pick up my rig now after getting the alignment done. They're saying that the rear adjustable panhard bar I installed with the OME lift has to be cut to work. I am hoping after that, it will be better vs worse.

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Which OME lift/springs and track bar? Why would it need to be cut?
 
I am very possibly going to 37s soon, but even with my 35s, rolling the fenders would be a huge help. I don't think I saw any AFTER photos of this being done. Does anyone have any? Maybe the photos are after and it just turned out really well. How much clearance was had after? I'd really love to find someone in Utah that can do this.

The wheel I insisted on apparently isn't helping as far as clearance and I am on my way to pick up my rig now after getting the alignment done. They're saying that the rear adjustable panhard bar I installed with the OME lift has to be cut to work. I am hoping after that, it will be better vs worse.

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Your rear axle seems kinda far back in the wheel well in that photo :-/
 
Which OME lift/springs and track bar? Why would it need to be cut?
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I don’t see anything cut so it must have been some of the threads.
 
Your rear axle seems kinda far back in the wheel well in that photo :-/
I think/hope it was just the way I was flexed. Here’s sitting flat.
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Weird, I am running nearly the same setup and I don't have any issues or things hitting/clearance issues.
If you’re running 35s, I wonder if it’s my 10mm wheel offset that’s the issue.
 
I am very possibly going to 37s soon, but even with my 35s, rolling the fenders would be a huge help. I don't think I saw any AFTER photos of this being done. Does anyone have any? Maybe the photos are after and it just turned out really well. How much clearance was had after? I'd really love to find someone in Utah that can do this.

The wheel I insisted on apparently isn't helping as far as clearance and I am on my way to pick up my rig now after getting the alignment done. They're saying that the rear adjustable panhard bar I installed with the OME lift has to be cut to work. I am hoping after that, it will be better vs worse.

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For my setup, running a 35x12.5 on +35 offset, I only needed a hair more clearance for the tire to tuck without contact. So the pic above is done with the lip folded to the weld seam.

I think you're running a 35x12.5R17 on +10mm offset? That compared to mine is the same diameter, but pushed a full 25mm or 1" more outward. That might require cutting or folding the whole lip. Which is indeed a pinch weld so it's not thin metal and hard to roll. Path of least resistance would honestly be to use a higher offset wheel. Alternatively, a 1" body lift (which still may not be enough as the tire can easily stuff that far), or combined with some sort of more aggressive compression limiter. Plus minor rolling.

Your rear axle seems kinda far back in the wheel well in that photo :-/

This is normal and happens when the axle is very articulated. Because it's solid axle, what happens on one side effects the other. So in his case, one side is extremely drooped and the other side compressed. The trailing arm on the side that's drooped is pulling that tire forward, which makes the compressed side go further rearward.

Weird, I am running nearly the same setup and I don't have any issues or things hitting/clearance issues.

Space gets really tight running a large and wide 35 tire. Offset becomes really critical. I tried a larger 1.25" spacer effectively making my setup a +28 offset and that doesn't work to cleanly stuff a 35x12.5.

IIRC, you're on a narrow 34 at +0? If my math is right, you'll have fender contact if you really get articulated off-road. Or you might have sitffer springs which is masking the contact at the moment. Something to watch out for.
 
Your rear axle seems kinda far back in the wheel well in that photo :-/

This is called flex steer and can only really be mitigated by adding either a long arm kit or triangulated 4-link. Essentially as the truck stuffs, the link gets shorter.
 
Funny, I’ve rolled and pulled some fender lips within a millimeter of their lives but never thought to do it on the 200. A little before/after on my E36, I did have to do some fender liner work after these pictures.

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Hopefully this helps the next guy either fitting big tires or those with aggressive offsets. The 200-series has some pretty beefy fender lips so I'll start by saying what's here will buy limited more clearance. Real clearance may require cutting the fender lip or getting more aggressive.

I'm fitting 35x12.5" tires, on +35 offset (1" spacer on stock offset 60mm wheels).

I've always known the clearance was really close. The front I was able get the clearance I need with just bending some tabs by hand and moving the liner above the tabs. The rear will generally tuck just fine when articulated. It's the full square sit situation, when hitting or landing whoops hard, that the tire shoulders are challenged for space and just kiss the lip edges in my setup. Note I have a stock panhard and I find the axle to sit pretty centered at full stuff. For anyone running an adjusted panhard, the sit will not be even between the body, and may see more interference on the passenger side.

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Tool:​


I opted for a cheapy (but not the cheapest), anticipating needing to mod. It did the job. This one is a bit larger than the cheapest ones and has a few inches more reach. I've owned an Eastwood before (last guy never returned before moving out of state). This knockoff is perfectly functional. But none of them should be manhandled. Rather use the tool to progressively work the fender 2-4 inches at a time. Overlapping sections being worked.

Lube the washer/lock nut combination on the back of the longest adjust bar. A small hit of WD40 is just fine. That one sees a lot of pressure and don't want to spin off the nut while using the tool.

Also need a heat gun. Possibly hammer or mallet with a block of wood to get certain edges started.

Amazon product ASIN B07KF4M33R

Mounting roller tool to hub:​


No fender roller is going to mount to our large 5x150 hub. I was able to get the base sufficiently mounted just captured on the edges of the stock wheel nuts. Then using a random piece of metal to span the upper part of the base to support.

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Rolling tips:​


  1. Set chocks on all 3 other wheels!! (important for later)
  2. Use jack to articulate one wheel position up as high as it can go to help the tool reach the fender. AHC low makes it easy. I can imagine a stiff springed LC may have more difficulty here.
  3. Once tool is setup, need the hub to be able to turn freely. This will require putting the vehicle in neutral and releasing the parking brake. And listen to annoying warning. Important to chock car in step 1!!
  4. As said, work a 2-4" of fender lip at a time.
  5. Heat gently with heat gun first to help paint and sealer flex.
  6. Setup the roller wheel to a good bending angle. Try to keep the lip as centered on the roller wheel as possible otherwise any pressure on the edgest will just change the angle no matter how hard it's tightened
  7. Work the tool to apply pressure progressively and keep rolling back and forth the small section
  8. Overlap and work the next section. May need to adjust tool. and remember to keep fender lip centered on roller.
I only needed a few millimeters. The tool probably won't be able to bend past the seam as the lip is actually two sheets stacked (beefy!). Others that need more roll or space may be able to provide more insight and creativity.

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We’re you able to gain enough clearance w 12.5” wide 35’s at 35 offset and rolled fenders to clear for an emergency double stuff / double tuck / catastrophic loss of ahc pressure on the rear fenders?
 
We’re you able to gain enough clearance w 12.5” wide 35’s at 35 offset and rolled fenders to clear for an emergency double stuff / double tuck / catastrophic loss of ahc pressure on the rear fenders?

Yup. I don't have pics of the double stuffing as it usually happens in dynamic conditions when driving more aggressively or coming off sand dunes. The outer tread blocks were getting chewed up prior and that has stopped.

There's still more room that can be had with possibly grinding the finder lip. It's a very stiff lip.

On a side note, setting the LX dampers to sport does help manage travel better when driving hard.
 

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