Anybody in the US ever convert a 100 to diesel? Can you get an engine from Toyota that would bolt up?
Diesel Conversion for 100 Series?
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I doubt we'll get a diesel here in MallCruiser-land.
I have been thinking however on a swap, but my 100 has way too few miles to make it a smart move. (22K)
With less than 200k on the clock, I think it may be senseless unless you've got extra cash to burn. If you do, that'd be the shi-zitt!
I have seen a few with domestic diesels in them. I think a couple of guys on this board have done that trick.
I have been thinking however on a swap, but my 100 has way too few miles to make it a smart move. (22K)
With less than 200k on the clock, I think it may be senseless unless you've got extra cash to burn. If you do, that'd be the shi-zitt!
I have seen a few with domestic diesels in them. I think a couple of guys on this board have done that trick.
guy on here put a chevy turbo-d in his LX470! oh...and he made it a 6-wheeler
Jim_Chow
V8_Fan
I've seen a number of guys in Japan swap their diesels for gasoline engines! You can get all the parts in Japan. I've seen manual tranny conversions, 2UZ swap into a BJ40, supra twin turbo in a LC40, a corvette V8 in a LC80, etc. Can't recall anything offhand where someone has swapped a 2UZ for a 1HZ or 1HD-FTE.
Alan Podvin's tow rig is a 6 wheeled 100 with a Duramax. Not sure it's that practical a conversion goal. Easier to just sneak in a 105.
Why the obsession with diesel power ? The main advantage in other markets is that diesel is given tax advantages. This is not the case in the US. Prices for diesel trend higher than gas all winter and then a little lower than gas in summer. Advantage in total cruise range yes. But not huge. It seems to me that the automakers and engine manufacturers are taking up all the economic advantages with the premium prices for the diesel packages. Any longevity advantage over the 4.7L? Hard to say. Now if you are running a large ranch and can fuel up with road-tax free fuel then thats a huge advantage.
6x6 100 Thread here
Maybe Jim can find a guy in Japan keen on a gasser and just swap parts.
Why the obsession with diesel power ? The main advantage in other markets is that diesel is given tax advantages. This is not the case in the US. Prices for diesel trend higher than gas all winter and then a little lower than gas in summer. Advantage in total cruise range yes. But not huge. It seems to me that the automakers and engine manufacturers are taking up all the economic advantages with the premium prices for the diesel packages. Any longevity advantage over the 4.7L? Hard to say. Now if you are running a large ranch and can fuel up with road-tax free fuel then thats a huge advantage.
6x6 100 Thread here
Maybe Jim can find a guy in Japan keen on a gasser and just swap parts.
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Jim_Chow
V8_Fan
Yeah, in most countries, diesel is widely available and far cheaper than gasoline. Even in Japan, it's like 1/3 less. Plus you get improved fuel economy. The improvement in fuel econonmy for the 100 isn't that great, though, maybe 15-17mpg to 20-22mpg. It's not twice the mileage. Then in some countries, they charge you a rip-off premium for the diesel version, plus there's more maintenance on top of that. My guess is in the end, you break even (better fuel economy offset by higher maintenance costs), with the main benefit being the longer range per tank or better towing ability. In this country, you can always find a gas station < 300 mi apart and most people don't tow. Unless you are located near an interstate, many gas stations in urban areas don't sell diesel; let's face it, this is a gasoline-dominated country. Diesel costs about as much as 91 octane, too. In Japan, they've discontinued many of the diesels due to the pollution. Not sure if it's new gov't regs are just a push by automakers to reduce particulate output.
!/3 less than gas prices in the US ?, I think in most countries gasoline is heavily taxed on the theory that it is a consumer fuel and diesel not as heavily taxed in order to keep the heavy trucks moving. Here the tax parity has kept the diesel market from expanding beyond the where it has real advantages (heavy loads and vehicles in near constant service).
What are the torque numbers for the Toyota Diesels ? 4.2L sounds small to me. But the only diesel I've ever owned was a GM 6.2L. Good motor, Too bad it was attached to a GM truck.
I think it would be pretty easy to get a TD 100 from Canada down here. At least in Colorado all thats checked is that the VIN # is not listed as stolen. It would be easiest if the Canadian seller drove it across the border. NAFTA has to be good for something.
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My dream rig...for how and where I use my rig would be an '03LC with either the new Toyota 4.7L 2xTD or the new small block Duramax that is coming out. I think that would do it for me...
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I think it would be pretty easy to get a TD 100 from Canada down here. At least in Colorado all thats checked is that the VIN # is not listed as stolen. It would be easiest if the Canadian seller drove it across the border. NAFTA has to be good for something.[/quote]
but, canada didn't get TD 100 either.
I think it would be pretty easy to get a TD 100 from Canada down here. At least in Colorado all thats checked is that the VIN # is not listed as stolen. It would be easiest if the Canadian seller drove it across the border. NAFTA has to be good for something.
[/quote]but, canada didn't get TD 100 either.
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I think it would be pretty easy to get a TD 100 from Canada down here. At least in Colorado all thats checked is that the VIN # is not listed as stolen. It would be easiest if the Canadian seller drove it across the border. NAFTA has to be good for something.
Thats not the issue - when your insurance company runs the VIN, ding. There a liability issue for non-certed/improperly imported vehicles - as a couple of Land Rover 110 owners have found out. But outside an accident or a jealous cruiserphile, you're probably safe.
Faint recollections someone in Canada (maybe Luxury) had some HDJ drive trains. Got the impression they were JDM. The 1HD-FTE in the HDJ J10s are the same as the J8s right? If so, HDJ-81s were imported to Canada so there would be parts support and possibly J8 donors? Hafta be an easier swap than most diesels Ive seen - why dont we see more?
Luck
Alac
Perhaps because the 4.7L gasser is a great engine with few problems. I think the urge to swap comes to most when they are going to have to R&R the old engine anyway. Once you are doing that then it sounds appealing to install exactly what you want.
Mike Shull
Let’s go…
Rumor is that the 08 will have a diesel option!
Yeah the only diesel I have heard Toyota in the USA planning for is on in the prius hibrid by 2010.
But we can try to change this by signing this petition.......??
http://www.petitiononline.com/TOYD4D/
Even Jeep is offering a diesel in the Grand Cherokee now. I believe it is a Mercedes power plant. And the new diesel formulas are running even cleaner, hence the popularity in econobox cars.
I would love a diesel over this gas motor any day.
I would love a diesel over this gas motor any day.
BJEC69
SILVER Star
About a year ago I saw a place in New Hampshire-CruiserCreations.com, that advertised an all OEM diesel, and/or a 5-speed manual conversion for the 100 series. I was hoping to find someone here that may have done it. It would truly be unique, and the envy of most on this site.
Rumor is that the 08 will have a diesel option!
Really? Where's the documentation on this? We're all curious.
Mike Shull
Let’s go…
I read an article on it last week sent to me from a friend.....let me see if I can get it back in my hands and will post the link here.......what do you think about that!?
Mike Shull
Let’s go…
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/11/20/toyota-to-sell-diesel-hybrid-in-2010/
Here it is! You can only belive whats written between the lines...I thought the email was directly from Toyota....But I suppose it's an Auto Blog article....but check it out it's kind of interesting....I'm still not sure this is the way to go....it may seem with just the 1.7L D4 Carolla gets 58.7 MPG! The ratings of course with the diesel/hybrid can't be told till it's built but it can't be much better than that! ....in the city especially.
Here it is! You can only belive whats written between the lines...I thought the email was directly from Toyota....But I suppose it's an Auto Blog article....but check it out it's kind of interesting....I'm still not sure this is the way to go....it may seem with just the 1.7L D4 Carolla gets 58.7 MPG! The ratings of course with the diesel/hybrid can't be told till it's built but it can't be much better than that! ....in the city especially.
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