There are two new photos on Slee's website that show a slimmed down version of the jerry can rack, then a couple older pictures that show the bulky jerry can rack. Anyone have the much better looking slimmer rack installed? Pics?
Did Slee change the design of his rear bumper jerry can rack?
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I see what you are talking about now...the older one doesn't have the outer lip the first photo shows. I have the version in the pic you posted...I wonder if the other photos were Christo's prototype.
That's the same one he just installed on my vehicle.
Grey one on the white LX was a prototype/first batch. The one pictured in this thread above is a newer design. Current design posted below by slee.
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Can you guys post some pics of what that design looks like mounted on your trucks? I hated the gray one on the LX on the website - just saw the new pic (posted in this thread) and it looks decent. Want to see what it looks like loaded and unloaded on someone's truck.
How solid is it when mounted on the ladder?
Did you drill a hole in the swing-arm or mount it higher using the ladder rungs only?
Do jerry cans rattle around at all or can the webbing strap hold them tight?
Are you running metal NATO cans or plastic?
Thx!
How solid is it when mounted on the ladder?
Did you drill a hole in the swing-arm or mount it higher using the ladder rungs only?
Do jerry cans rattle around at all or can the webbing strap hold them tight?
Are you running metal NATO cans or plastic?
Thx!
if you guys don't like the look of the "bulky" jerry can mount, why not just go with the RotoPax mount? doesn't really get any more streamline than this 
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This is the current design. Small change on the outer lip of the strap mounting flange to provide some additional strength.
Very solid IMO.
I mounted to the higher rungs using existing holes. I put it there because I really didn't want to drill a hole in the swing-arm...and I couldn't find my step bit.
Mine have been pretty snug. I noticed movement when I only ran two cans. Nothing major...just a shift.
Two Scepters (plastic) and one Wedco (metal) for fuel only. Replace the Wedco with another Scepter when I put some water on there.
The only "issue" was when I tried to put three Scepters in the rack and they had swelled. I had to burp all three of them before they fit.
if you guys don't like the look of the "bulky" jerry can mount, why not just go with the RotoPax mount? doesn't really get any more streamline than this
Thought about it but I already had the jerry cans. I decided to use those instead of buying another fuel/water container. A major point for me is that I can refuel using my super siphon without having to move a jerry can.
And here I thought I had the latest and greatest gear....
Got my hopes up thinking the design was drastically different.
I wish he/they would make a jerry can/swing out solution that doesn't require buying the ladder. Something more modular like the 4x4labs.
I wish he/they would make a jerry can/swing out solution that doesn't require buying the ladder. Something more modular like the 4x4labs.
i've got two 4x4labs 3x can holders I can sell you and you can make your own swing out that incorporates them!
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Pm sent...I need one of those. I have a Labs bumper.....
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highonpottery said:if you guys don't like the look of the "bulky" jerry can mount, why not just go with the RotoPax mount? doesn't really get any more streamline than this
The bulky complaint wasn't about the cans, it was regarding the lip on the old rack design.
Not interested in Rotopax.
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The ladder is the base of our modular system. We made two types of carriers and some people have fabricated their own. Is the objection to the ladder just the top piece that sticks out? Cosmetic?
If we did just a jerry can holder, then it would still require most of the parts of the ladder. I can see that if you add the cost of the ladder and the can vs just a can carrier that there might be some cost savings, however you are also loosing some options. The actuall ladder part of the swing out is the smallest part of the cost. The bulk of it lies in the latch, hinge mechanism, cap, pin etc etc, so the cost saving is not going to be that huge. Is that the reason for wanting just a can carrier? Cost?
The ladder does however offer a huge advantage in future options for consumers. It can be made to accept a bike carrier, propane bottles, hi-lift & axle / chainsaw carrier. Maybe we should not have called it a ladder, but a multipurpose swingout mount
The main issue is that our bumpers are produced in batches of 15 to 20. So if we made another style carrier, that would mean we are now stocking 15 to 20 additional carriers. We have learned a long time ago we can no please all the consumers. We try to balance our products between consumer needs and wants and what makes business sense for us.
sleeoffroad
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The lip was removed on the front and back and it was flipped outwards. So that reduced the overall footprint of the carrier a lot. So the carrier is actually smaller than if you had to compare it with a round tube style given the same space for the cans.
Using the ratchet strap and E-track mount clip makes for very good system to secure the cans, yet offer removal. Yes, it might be lacking locking of the actual cans or lids. However most carriers that have lockable solutions offers suck a small padlock option that it is hardly worth bothering with it.
If needed, a strap type system with a hinge can easily be fabricated to cover the can lids and be padlocked to the side. We do offer additional holes on the flange for that. We don't offer such a strap since it would be unique to every can combination customers would run.
For me, i just don't like the look of a ladder, nor need one.
I don't see myself ever needing to have anything other than a can carrier and tire carrier.
If someone was planning on swapping out carriers off the ladder constantly, then having the ladder would be cheaper as the modular options would require less material to build.
I think the system that i had on a bumper for my 80 was a nice design that allowed easy removal/install of optional swing arm accessories with just removing two bolts.
I don't see myself ever needing to have anything other than a can carrier and tire carrier.
If someone was planning on swapping out carriers off the ladder constantly, then having the ladder would be cheaper as the modular options would require less material to build.
I think the system that i had on a bumper for my 80 was a nice design that allowed easy removal/install of optional swing arm accessories with just removing two bolts.
The ladder is the base of our modular system. We made two types of carriers and some people have fabricated their own. Is the objection to the ladder just the top piece that sticks out? Cosmetic?
If we did just a jerry can holder, then it would still require most of the parts of the ladder. I can see that if you add the cost of the ladder and the can vs just a can carrier that there might be some cost savings, however you are also loosing some options. The actuall ladder part of the swing out is the smallest part of the cost. The bulk of it lies in the latch, hinge mechanism, cap, pin etc etc, so the cost saving is not going to be that huge. Is that the reason for wanting just a can carrier? Cost?
The ladder does however offer a huge advantage in future options for consumers. It can be made to accept a bike carrier, propane bottles, hi-lift & axle / chainsaw carrier. Maybe we should not have called it a ladder, but a multipurpose swingout mount
The main issue is that our bumpers are produced in batches of 15 to 20. So if we made another style carrier, that would mean we are now stocking 15 to 20 additional carriers. We have learned a long time ago we can no please all the consumers. We try to balance our products between consumer needs and wants and what makes business sense for us.
Cristo, how hard is it to remove the swing outs? I would only need them a few times a year for long trips etc, and I have a feeling the wife wouldn't be too keen on having to swing it out every time she wanted to put something in the back...
Do the gas can mounts fit the typical red plastic jerry cans?
Do the gas can mounts fit the typical red plastic jerry cans?
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You take the hex head cap of the spindle assembly and then take the castle nut off and slide it over. We have optional spindle covers to cover it. On the ladder it is normally easy since there is no wiring attached to it. The tire carrier normally has the license plate light and antenna etc. So that one is a little bit more work. You would also have to transfer the plate back on the car
I'm in line with Layonn's thinking and probably going to buy the bumper he's referring to. All the attachment's Christo mentioned work with the bumper Layonn's referring to also. And with the 2 bolt idea, you could have no attachements for day to day driving, making getting into the rear hatch a lot simpler and your truck lighter.
I totally get the point of the slee ladder. Just think it'd have been better as an attachment that bolts onto the swingout instead of integrated into the swingout.
Does anyone actually use the ladder as a ladder?
*I apologize for the hijack.
If you have a RTT or full safari rack the ladder is definitely useful. why not cut the top hoop of the ladder and cap if it's so ugly to you guys?
I know several people who run/ran the tire swingout during the summer and before snow season would pull the swingout off and stuff the tire back underneath. If you install connectors on your wiring the first time around it makes it pretty easy, like a 3 beer job...spending most of the time just drinking the beer while admiring Slees bumper design
I know several people who run/ran the tire swingout during the summer and before snow season would pull the swingout off and stuff the tire back underneath. If you install connectors on your wiring the first time around it makes it pretty easy, like a 3 beer job...spending most of the time just drinking the beer while admiring Slees bumper design
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That does not work since the arm will be on top of the bumper and the tailgate will hit it when you open the tailgate. So you have to remove the arm completely in any case. The only designs that would allow for this is if you could somehow put the swingout arm so that the top is not higher than the rear top surface of the bumper.
A taller carrier also has a huge leverage affect and to rely on two bolts to keep it from not wobbling is asking a lot. A low mount can holder is ok, but once you go up, then you run into issues.
I don't see what you gain with that option, other than simply esthetics.
Yes, people actually do. Hence the request for doing the Rotopax mount. I have attached a pic where a customer used both the rotopax and the basket to create a swing out basket for his cooler, yet still retain the ladder functionality.
