Death of a star ter?

[dirtrick]

A no-start issue has me wondering how does a starter act as it dies? Do they tend to go quickly or slowly? Does it somehow gain friction, or does it simply do nothing? Battery charger is telling me the battery is charged but everything else says otherwise... freakin mysterious pixies.

 

[Heckraiser]

My experience has been that I will get the "click-no-start" intermittently for a few weeks or months before the inevitable demise of the starter.

There is a no-start troublshooting flow chart somewhere on MUD if you search for it. I believe it's also in the FSM if you've got one. Check things like starter contacts, fusible links, etc before replacing the starter.

 

[Tools R Us]

The most common is solenoid contacts, often click/no turn, when the key is turned to start. They are simple to replace. Second failure we see is the solenoid, when they fail, most often cause a gear clash.

 

[Cruzerman]

Listen to Tools R Us. Clickety-click-click is most often the starter contacts. Cheap and easy to replace. And I've typically seen that even then it is only one of them. Replace both and keep the good one for next time.

 

[ToyotaMatt]

 

[morganism]

No start, or slow starter turnover is usually the coil / ignitor ground. The entire hold down cage needs to be cleaned and re-attached.

If you can put a separate ground wire from the ignitor case to the body, you will even have brighter headlights !

Many times you will need to bump the flywheel a bit, cuz the teeth jam up on a slow start.

 

[Tools R Us]

No start, or slow starter turnover is usually the coil / ignitor ground. The entire hold down cage needs to be cleaned and re-attached.

If you can put a separate ground wire from the ignitor case to the body, you will even have brighter headlights !

Many times you will need to bump the flywheel a bit, cuz the teeth jam up on a slow start.

The 1FZ rigs have a ground wire that goes from the fender well to the coil bracket, the intake and the motor lifting bracket, so well grounded. The starter is grounded by the main/battery ground cable, attached to the block near the starter and powered by the main/battery positive cable, so those little wires have nothing to do with starter running.

 

[morganism]

oops, thought i was in the 60 thread.

60s dont have that ground wire on the coil/ignitor, and it has a huge effect on starting. I had intermittent starts with hangs, slow turnovers, and dim headlights. That ground cleanup, and an added wire from ignitor to ground has solved all those problems for 8 months now.

Dont know if the neg switched ground circuit is the culprit, or if it is the distruibutor pickup that doesnt trip the coil collapse, and boosts resistance in the circuit so high it doesn't leave enough for that monster starter cable.

Just saying, if starter problems, clean any coil/ignitor grounds first. If headlights dimming, try the same, and add that wire to ground to body.

Thanks for pointing out they added that on the newer Toys.