Cut and turn the front axle

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I have heard a number of times when it is necessary to cut and turn the front axle. It seems like there are mixed answers out there.
35 and larger tires?
A substantial lift?

Can anyone out here help me to clarify this ?
 
First off, I don't know diddly squat about the subject, but I have 6 degree shims on my front axle to correct caster and a cut n turn would fix that. I'm SUA and run 33" tires. I'd really like to do this myself, but worry about warping the housing. I talked to Cruiser Outfitters and they have done hundreds of them with no worries of warpage. Doing the math to figure out the degree you need is my thorn.
 
I know even less diddy and know that I would not attempt. I hadn't even gotten into the idea of figuring out that number! I am running 33s as well, and have a lift with both spring and shackle. I have shims in the front that Marv suggested when I got the shackles. Cant remember what degree that is either.

I really like the idea of having no shims. I ask because there are some 17in wheels and 34" tires for sale.
 
I’ll try to help, “cut and turn” refers to correcting your caster angle after a “mod” to your suspension or trying to effect more or less caster angle for a desired effect.

The factory FJ55 spec I found called for ~1° of caster, with the slow speed and manual the pig was intended for this is not a bad choice, add power steering and drive a bit faster and more positive caster is desirable, + 3° is a good starting point for modern Pigs.

If you add a lift and or longer front shackles you will in effect remove what little caster you had making your pig very “darty” or very unstable to drive, caster shims can get you back the caster you need to stabilize the steering you need at speed but the better option is to cut and turn your knuckle balls and rotate them to the required angle.

I don’t believe you can cut and weld on steel tubing without expecting some amount of warpage so doing a cut and turn without a way to check for alignment after the fact is literally playing with fire.



Hope this helps.

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Agree about not having any warpage being not very realistic, but it can be done with minimal warpage and yes, the alignment should be checked after. Alot of guys will use an alignment bar when mocking the balls back into the housing to keep it all axially straight, but I'm sure alot of guys just go for it with decent results. there is not alot of slop between the balls and sockets, so they will be within a certain window of true without a bar... you can in effect add up your shim angle and just transfer that to your caster angle. if you're running 6* of shim at 3* caster angle and your pinion angle is within spec, roll your balls and spring pads back 6*. if you're at 6* of shim and your caster is 1* and your pinion is set, roll the balls and pads back 8*...
cut your balls loose, cut the pads loose, point the pinion where it needs to be (dead on at the tcase flange with double cardan type shaft; parallel to the Tcase flange if not cardan), bolt the housing to the springs and put the weight on the housing. adjust pinion angle again if needed. tack the spring pads temporarily. roll the balls back to achieve 1-3* caster depending on your tire size/lift...
welding the housing will warp it. this can be minimized by preheating and post heating the areas that will be getting hot, and by rotating your way around the bead- not just a long steady burn, but and inch here- and an inch 180* away until it's full circle. taking several passes lessens the amount of acute heat applied at any one spot at a time. I went with 3 passes on my fzj80 rear when I narrowed it. I used a 120 volt mig. I used a deep V groove and valley welded the first pass. the second 2 were overlapping each other, kind of side by side, over the top of the first pass. I prolly have 25K hard all kinds of miles on that axle with NO ODD wear on my mud meats with less than the correct number of tire rotations...
 
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