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What happened to global warming? I was kinda looking foreward to it!
It is really frigid here. Our current temp is 22. And it is falling fast! This time last year it was 34. We have already had several snowstorms. Yet winter hasn't really started.
Usually, the real cold starts at the end of Janurary. We are at 5140 ft altitude. The average snow level is at 5200 ft. Yet, since Christmas, we have seen snow in our yard one morning in every three.
We were prevented from visiting our family in the Valley on Christmas because of thick fog and heavily falling snow.
Last year, our overnight low temp before January was 28 degrees. So far this year, our overnight low temp record is 18 degrees. It is rapidly falling towards that level or lower tonight. We are looking at temps of 15 degrees or lower. Where is global warming when we need it??
I am starting to think that it may all be a farce!!
 
waiting for the rocklicker to see this :popcorn:
 
well if we do go into an ice age are trucks will look like this:grinpimp:
ice 40.webp
 
Pravda (The Russian newspaper) is warning that earrings could get stuck because of the cold! German news media warns against touching steel street signs because slight moisture may cause fingers to be frozen to the sign posts. This is global warming at its best!
Even in Prescott, we are seeing record low temps for this time of year. In our area, we rarely see temps below freezing before mid-January, yet we saw them in the lower altitudes well before Christmas. Icy roads do not usually occur before the first of the new year. But we were dealing with ice on Veterans Day Weekend in mid-November, even before Thanksgiving! We were caught in a heavy winter storm on Veteran's Day Weekend in early November.
As of this time, my outside thermometer reads 18 degrees. Last year on this date at this time, it was at 28. Global warming, My ass!! I am not buying this sales pitch!
Recently, the New York Times revealed that a village had been found by archealogists at a high latitude. According to them, it had been hidden for 600 years under ice. It was revealed by global warming. The warming was caused by my Land Cruiser. NOT!!
But let's just think about this; If the warming was caused by my SUV, where was my Land Cruiser 600 years ago? It was not there! Why was the earth warmer 600 years ago than it is now? Why could a village exist farther north than it could now. Was the earth warmer then that it is today? How could this happen without SUV's? Are we so self-involved that we really think that we can have an effect on the world? The world will go on. It doesn't really care about us. We may try to be important, but we really are not! We actually are rather insignificant in the larger scheme of things. We are really just things in the view of geology. Our planet is a tough rock. It will be a rock, regardless of what we do. We are really insignifigent organisms who just feed off of it. The real planet is geological. We humans are just parasites who feed off of it.
The earth has been getting warmer and colder in cycles for eons. Tree rings and rock formations show this. Yet we have the audacity to assume that we are at fault, and that we have some control over this!
We are so full of ourselves!! Can we really believe that we can change geology? The earth is what it is. It is a resilient organism. We are really just parasites on it. We place an importance on ourselves that we really do not deserve.
We are really only here to prove the difference between generous and selfish behavior. Once that is proven, we will be gone, but the Earth will go on. It is a self-perpetuating organism. It can take care of itself. The earth was here long before we were here, and it will be here long after we are gone.
 
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Reading, writing and arithmetic... Required!
Science... Optional. :frown:

I think climate change is what we were promised... :rolleyes:
 
Whenever three people agree, I have to toss an ice cube in their coffee. I am perverse that way. It definitely livens up the discussion.
Most of those who believe in climate change have not lived long enough, or have not lived in one place long enough to realize the cyclic changes in local or global weather conditions.
There are cyclical changes that cannot be ignored. Weather patterns run in cycles like the rising and falling of rivers. It is called "NATURE". Can we remember nature? It is the thing that happened before we began to think that we were so smart that we could conquer it all!
We really aren't that smart! Nature is as nature does. It will do us if we forget it.
Local weather tends to run in patterns of 7, 15, 30 and 60 years. Here in the southwest, we can see it clearly. Global weather runs in patterns of 75, 150, 300, and 600 years. The earth warms or cools in those patterns. Remember 600 years? That is when that village was thriving in the far north where we cannot live today.
The patterns are from wet to dry, warm to cooler.
In the winter of 1977-78, Phoenix and Scottsdale, Arizona schools took a day off due to....snow! Yes, snow in the desert! I remember it well, because I was there. I got the day off!
During the following spring, we had so much rain and snow that the river bridges were washed out. We had solid concrete and steel bridges washed away like so much driftwood. They were just gone!
The city was literally cut in half at the river. There was only one real bridge left, and it took 6 hours in traffic to cross it. This went on for months.
There was a high trade in people living in other people's homes. If a family had a job on the other side of the river, they would trade homes so that they could get to work. Some even traded kids. Since the kids were tied to a school district, and the jobs were across the river, the parents would raise each others' kids so that they could stay in the same school. It worked out, but it was rough!
My neighborhood was marooned by floodwaters for a week. We were, in effect, on an island. Every major street was a river, and our little area was isolated. We could not escape. We were fortunate in that we had a grocery store in our area, but they had no ability to restock. What they had was what there was!
Here it is at the end of a long drought, and we are seeing wetter and colder weather. It is thirty years later. In Prescott, we have seen a series of winter storms. They come in without respite. We had our first heavy snow in early November. We first froze pipes in early December, and we were ice skating by the first of January. It is cold here! Thirty years later, here we are again! Back to wet and cold! The pattern continues...
 
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