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I had this sent to me from a professional aquantance. You will see the slant. Sorry about the formating. I just cut and paste what I received.
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Hi Folks,


Voices are needed to protect our National Forest in the East Mountains of Albuquerque from ORVs. The Forest Service is planning to open all trails in the Cedro Peaks area to motorized use. The area already has been receiving greatly increased ORV impacts over the few years, including significant off-trail use (photos below taken in Cedro Peaksarea).
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3 Things you can do:

1. THIS WEEK - There will be a meeting held this week to oppose the FS plan, citing air quality issues (please see meeting information in email below).Wednesday, Feb. 13, 2008, beginning at 5:30 p.m. Vincent E. Griego Chambers Albuquerque-Bernalillo County Government Center, 400 Marquette NW, Albuquerque , NM

2. COMMENTS also are greatly needed on the Forest Service's Environmental Impact Statement:
Cibola National Forest - Sandia Ranger District Travel Management

3. Attend FS meetings Feb 20 and 21 on the Environmental Assessment Cibola National Forest - Sandia Ranger District Travel Management
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The meetings will be held:
Wednesday, February 20, 2008, from 6-8 p.m.
Roosevelt Middle School cafeteria
11799 State Highway 14S, Tijeras

Thursday, February 21, 2008, from 6-8 p.m.
UNM Continuing Education Conference Center (North Building), Room C
1634 University Blvd. NE (North of Indian School)

Thanks,
Ana

Wednesday's Meeting Information:
Wednesday, Feb. 13, 2008, beginning at 5:30 p.m.

Vincent E. Griego Chambers
Albuquerque-Bernalillo County Government Center
400 Marquette NW
Albuquerque , NM

Excerpts from Vern Hershberger’s email message:

February 13 will be a key opportunity for the New Mexico Wilderness Society, and any one who enjoys quiet, safe & healthy use of National Forest trails, to show up and speak out to keep the Cedro Peak area of the Cibola National Forest (CNF) from effectively becoming a OHV (off-highway vehicle) park for off-road motorcycles, 4X4's & ATVs.

The CNF has reportedly been lobbying to amend (relax) existing and proposed dust control regulations to
enable their proposed Travel Management Rule (TMR) plans to officially designate nearly all of the existing Cedro Peak area CNF trails for some kind of motorized use, and to prohibit motorized use everywhere else in the Sandia District. This will essentially concentrate all motorized use in the Sandia District into the CNF's Cedro Peak area, and essentially turn it (our public land) into an off-road motor park.

This will certainly generate increased dust emissions, noise and traffic in this area that would also likely affect the nearby residential areas, e.g., Tablazon.

The 20.11.20 NMAC regulation currently exempts dust control requirements (e.g., paving, watering, soil treatments) only for trails with non-motorized use.

1. As many of us as possible need to, at a minimum, politely ask the Air Board:

● Not to exempt motorized trails from dust control requirements.
● Not to exempt motorized trails over 1/4-mile or any (arbitrary) distance from a residence from dust control requirements.

2. We need to tell the Air Board that there is no realistic or cost-effective way to control dust and maintain dust controls on OHV trails (e.g. on proposed single-track motorcycle trails), especially given the rugged terrain and fine-grained soil types in the Cedro Peak area.

3. We also need to tell the Air Board that we believe the CNF does not have the funding to implement dust
control on the miles of out back trails, nor the manpower to control vehicle speeds on their trails (how often do we see CNF rangers out back on trails?). Remember, OHVs have no license plate requirements nor noise control or emission control requirements like highway vehicles do.

4. We also need to have the Air Board send a clear message to the USDA National Forest Service that their air quality regulations apply to the CNF in Bernalillo County, just like they do to other federal land mgmt agencies like DoD, DOE, etc.

If we can get a strong 20.11.20 NMAC dust control regulation on trails, then we may be able to trump the
CNF's TMR plans all together, and protect East Mountain neighborhoods from dust (and noise) in all of
Bernalillo County at least.

I'm doing this because my family, friends and I like to ride horses (safely) on the nearby Cedro Peak CNF
trails. Horses freak and dart under trees (not safe to be in the saddle) at the sight of fast approaching motorcycles & ATVs. I like to listen to nature and breathe clean air, not dust and uncontrolled vehicle exhaust, while I quietly ride horses through the forest. Concentrated motorized use resulting from the CNF TMR will make the trails unsafe for equestrian use, and undesirable for most quiet trail users. It's a shame that we have to fight for this with the CNF.

I hope to see lots of quiet trail users at the hearing in the City Council Chambers next Wed. evening. Bring a good book or something to read, because sometimes these hearings take a while.

Thank you,
Vern Hershberger
Tijeras, NM
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Agenda

CALL TO ORDER

Item #1 Approval of Agenda (Chair)
Item #2 Approval of December 12, 2007 Meeting Minutes (Chair)

ACTION ITEMS

Item #3 Decision regarding Proposal to amend 20.11.20 NMAC, Fugitive Dust Control.
Item #4 Decision regarding Proposal to incorporate a newly-amended 20.11.20 NMAC into the New Mexico State
Implementation Plan for air quality (SIP).

General inquires regarding this agenda may be directed to Janice Amend, Air Quality Control Board Liaison, (505) 768-2601 (jamend@cabq.gov).
 
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You should have seen what I deleted.
 
also what were the pictures?

The pics were stripped when the post was forwarded on to me.

Comments have been, in order:
"Thought you all might be interested in seeing this. I hate those damn things."

"Someone got a small ATV down a very steep, rugged arroyo and hillside in the South Foothills Open Space near me...it is tough to hike or mtn bike there, so that took some skill, but at least they did not go over any off-trail areas with it.

I also wonder which gate they took down to get in there, quite a feat.

I have had to dodge a few of them on Cedro Peak a couple times, but it is better to have some designated areas than none. Seemed Anza-Borrego SP in SD County CA had a sizeable ORV area, though not sure how good it was. It will be interesting to see what you think, Jon, since you are responsible with any "off-roading"."

"The problem is not with the "responsible" (I question gas guzzling anything in today's world - oil shortages and climate change) who stick to trails. It only takes one irresponsible jackass to damage an area that can take decades to repair itself. Sorry John [sic], I'd like to see most of them gone. I can see a need for them at times for people working with them, but not for recreation."
 
Well la de friggin da!

The environment in New Mexico has been trashed by previous "activities" begining with the Anisazis. Then factor in overgrazing, logging, mining, alteration of hydrology, etc. done by the European newcomers. The result is that the environment/ecosystem we curretly see is unhealty and nothing like it was 4 or 5 hundred years ago. I hate when people get on thier "high horse" about preserving our "prinstine" environment because it's not. I also hate when a value judgement is made about "recreation" not being a valid land-use.
 
Two Sierra Club guys came by the house a few days ago asking me to sign a petition against something to do with global warming. I politely sent them on their way.

-Mike-
 
Two Sierra Club guys came by the house a few days ago asking me to sign a petition against something to do with global warming. I politely sent them on their way.

-Mike-

Seeing your big ol' gas guzzler in the driveway, I can't imagine they would have raised their hopes when they rang the doorbell.
 
Ouch!

I promised Connie it would be out tonight. She's already in bed asleep and now I have to go upstairs and whisper in her ear and tell her that Pristine is not coming out of the garage tonight. The good news is that the weather is supposed to be good tomorrow and getting bad tomorrow night so I should be able to get the truck finished if I can come up with a '93 or '94 drive flange.

-Mike-
 
Ouch!

I promised Connie it would be out tonight. She's already in bed asleep and now I have to go upstairs and whisper in her ear and tell her that Pristine is not coming out of the garage tonight. The good news is that the weather is supposed to be good tomorrow and getting bad tomorrow night so I should be able to get the truck finished if I can come up with a '93 or '94 drive flange.

-Mike-

This is exactly why it drives Yvette nuts when I want to do something on my own. Something inevitably goes wrong, and the time it takes to complete the job doubles or triples.
 
I had this sent to me from a professional aquantance. You will see the slant. Sorry about the formating. I just cut and paste what I received.
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Forwarded to Mark Werkmeister.
 
I'll show up to next wed/thur meeting since I'll be in town next week.
 
I went to the meeting tonight and I'd say that 4x4s of all kinds out numbered cars which I thought was interesting!

Looks like we'll need to comment on the proposed alternatives by 2/28 before Nancy Rose decides on who gets to drive what and where on the trail system.

Nancy would like to hear from us specifically on the proposed alternatives and what we do and don't like.
 
a good thing to bring up is, there are many single track trails up there for Horses, Mtn bikes and hikers. all the roads should remain for the motorized contingent. there's plenty as is for everyone not to run into eachother much.
 

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