CB antenna mount questions

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From past experience: best coverage of broadcast is a mount dead center of the vehicle.
For the most part true. Certain conditions need to be met for it to be true. Stuff like the surface needs to be well grounded. No area of the vehicle can be higher. Etc.. Note, many modern auto bodies are glued together and there isn't a good ground path from the roof to the battery.

Mount it by the rear driver's tail light would allow you to 'talk' further to the front/passenger side and just the same the other way. Mounted on rear passenger side will allow a further broadcast to the front/driver's side direction.
Nope. Without a longer antenna or co-phasing antennas you can't get a further distance than center top mounting on a nice well grounded metal roof. Also the corner of the vehicle is a poorer ground plane so transmission and reception distances are reduced because it can't generate a good push off of the ground. Poor ground planes electrically flex. As the signal is peaking the ground plane is dropping. An example of the principal is trying to jump up when standing on sand versus standing on cement. This drop in the ground plane is only local to the transmit antenna. The receive antenna is still referenced to the normal ground plane. That means it sees a signal that is proportionally lowered by the same percentage that the ground plane flexed.

Reception seemed to be unaffected by the location of the mount.
Seemed is the key. Didn't look at the real signal strength?

But the location of mount leading to a directional broadcast, I have first hand experience with.
While location around a vehicle can lead to directionality in broadcast and reception, unless co-phasing or similar type techniques are used, the distance is always reduced by interfering objects, like the side pillars and roof of the vehicle. The reason is they absorb or reflect some of the transmitted energy. Absorbed energy obviously doesn't go anywhere. Reflected energy usually interferes with the signal and tends to cancel it out. There will be lobes where the reflected energy does enhance the signal, but they won't be forward or aft on the average vehicle. Simple mechanics of reflection says so. There is some aperture type bending of the radio waves around the front of the vehicle, but that just spreads the energy that was traveling next to the body over a wider area. That means the signal in that area would be a lower intensity because of that. I could go on and on about this, but it's boring to me now. Get and read the ARRL Antenna Handbook. Also go out and read a few good journal articles on antenna design principals and come back when you've educated yourself. I'm no antenna expert, but I do know how to find and listen to what they say.

As for the stronger signal towards the battery ****. I'd bet when things are closely looked at, the best ground path to the battery was in the direction of the increased strength.
 
I'd love to hear what your qualifications are for your opinions.

oh $hit, i have to be qualified to have my opinion!!?? i'm flocking doomed!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::flipoff2::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

mental note, post count frozen at wtf it is right now... :bang:

these are not the droids you are looking for <waving hand>

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ok i'll go back to my :beer::beer: and :popcorn: now. the peanut gallery is spent.

:cheers:
 
oh $hit, i have to be qualified to have my opinion!!?? i'm flocking doomed!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::flipoff2::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

mental note, post count frozen at wtf it is right now... :bang:

these are not the droids you are looking for <waving hand>

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ok i'll go back to my :beer::beer: and :popcorn: now. the peanut gallery is spent.

:cheers:
You don't need to be qualified to have an opinion, but for your opinion to have credibility it helps. Especially when you state your opinion as though it were fact.
 
You don't need to be qualified to have an opinion, but for your opinion to have credibility it helps. Especially when you state your opinion as though it were fact.

for sure. good summary of all my bassackwards joking. :beer:
 
Back from the dead. I put it by my tailgate.

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So here it is. The white antennae isn't staying. It was one I had from a long time ago in my shed. I'll be going with a shorter black firestik or a steel whip. I got a Cobra 19 Ultra III that I'll get peaked and tuned with my new antennae, then call it done. If and when the Ultra III burns up, I'll get a better one. For now, it fits in the slot where the ashtray was.
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Nice fabrication Brake weight!

It gives me some ideas, I really need a mig again!

Also, I seen a firestick antenna on a Fjcruiser a few months back that was removed with a half turn. Might have to look into something like that with a bracket like youve built. (the owner showed it to me, I didnt steal it out of a parking lot!)

I cant believe I havent built anything yet, house reno's and babies take up the time I never had I guess.
 
yeah walcott & others have a quick disconnect, i use the "hidden" one that doesn't look like a quick disconnect
 
I know squat about CB's, antennas, but it seems most Aussie rigs have theirs on the front bull bars. Good...bad....? I'm thinking about doing the same on my rig.
 
I know squat about CB's, antennas, but it seems most Aussie rigs have theirs on the front bull bars. Good...bad....? I'm thinking about doing the same on my rig.

I don't know how they avoid issue with alternator interference, but obviously many have their antennnas on the front bumper. I tried that, and kept having issues with teh alternator, I have a 140amp single wire alternator so it may just be my truck... I went to mounting the antenna on my rear aftermarket bumper.
 
Aussie's aren't CB, but something with a bunch more range. They have radio reachable emergency services for remote areas.
 
I know squat about CB's, antennas, but it seems most Aussie rigs have theirs on the front bull bars. Good...bad....? I'm thinking about doing the same on my rig.
They are running HF radios not CB, the signal strength will be somewhat directional in the forward direction both on TX and RX.

I don't know how they avoid issue with alternator interference, but obviously many have their antennnas on the front bumper. I tried that, and kept having issues with teh alternator, I have a 140amp single wire alternator so it may just be my truck... I went to mounting the antenna on my rear aftermarket bumper.
Filters:meh:
 
I tired one filter some time ago, without anyone transmitting my strenght meter on the radio I have would hit about 1/2 strength when antenna mounted on front bumper...when antenna moved to roof or as recently to back bumper ..issues went away.

Don't recall what filter I had, but was specific to CB and alt noise.

I have a 140 amp single wire alternator which may be the primary issue with that....vs. a normal stock setup.
 
I tired one filter some time ago, without anyone transmitting my strenght meter on the radio I have would hit about 1/2 strength when antenna mounted on front bumper...when antenna moved to roof or as recently to back bumper ..issues went away.

Don't recall what filter I had, but was specific to CB and alt noise.

I have a 140 amp single wire alternator which may be the primary issue with that....vs. a normal stock setup.
Signal strength and alt noise are two different issues. If you were getting noise from the alt it would show up on TX and RX as, well noise, it really wouldn't affect signal strength.

When you moved the antenna to the roof you provided a better impedance match, closer to 50 Ohms. The closer the impedance match the more power is transmitted and the less is reflected back into the radio.
 
When engine running noise was worse, when engine off...cb functioned fine with antenna mounted to front. Thus my thought its related to the Alt.

I know I'm not using the correct technical terms...but anyway. With the engine running strength meter pegged about 1/2 way (antenna mounted to passenger side of front bumper). With engine off strength meter shows normal and radio functions fine.

Since then antenna moved to rear bumper. roof mounted magnetic antenna worked great...excpet when off-road and encounters with tree limbs and brush.
 
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