Carb fan rebuild

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In the interest of contributing to the forum in what little way I can, I thought I’d show some pictures of my carb fan rebuild last night. I did a little poking around on the forum and it seemed like posting some pics of the rebuild might be of general interest.

A little back story to why I did this thought first:

My FJ60 is the first carbureted engine I’ve owned and I didn’t bother reading a page of the owner’s manual… So of course I wonder why I have to crank the starter forever during a hot start… So, that problem got fixed with a simple behavioral adjustment, but in my searches online I started reading about the carb fan, and I realized mine wasn’t running. Turns out it was just unplugged but it runs, sort of. Except it sounds like I’m beating a sheep after I kill the engine. So, I kind of wanted to do something about that.
Anyway, I figured I’d at least try taking it apart just to see what could be done, and I discovered that you can completely break down the DC motor and clean it from the ground up, so I did. It was a pretty easy job with one hitch I thought I’d warn folks about if you want to clean it yourself. The brushes sit right at the base of the output shaft and pop out when you remove the housing. The way I was able to get the whole thing back together after cleaning was to load the brushes and keep them in place with some dental floss tied in a slipknot, which you can just pull off right before you close the housing back up.

Anyways, my rig has 316K imles and the brushes still had a ton of material left on them. The commutator was pretty badly eaten through which you can see, so I don’t know how much life is left in the motor, but I thought I’d mention that it’s a pretty robust part and could probably be serviced, which I mention because it seemed like there were a fair number of folks looking for them in the parts section. If mine goes south any time soon I'll probably source another motor that meets spec, if I do I'l be sure to post a part number, unless someone here has already done it.

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I need to tackle this too. Mine doesn't run either. I poked around the wiring harness awhile ago and mine had wires cut so I'll have to fix that too.

How did you clean it? Just brush all the junk out, or did you spray it down with something? I've never actually fixed an electric motor--typically they're broken when I take them apart and even more broken afterward.
 
Hah, been there!
I just hosed it down with brake cleaner, anything that will quickly evaporate will do. If you have access to compressed air that would work too, the crud in there is just dry dust from either the brushes or the commutator getting ground up into powder so it's a super easy clean job. I pulled into the garage today and was worried I'd mucked up the blower after I killed the engine because I could hardly hear it running. Nothing quite as gratifying as a really noticeable fix that doesn't take much time or skin off your knuckles, right?
 
If you have to question it on a FJ60.... it's not working.

The fan should kick on every time the engine shuts down. Very easy to hear.


Touche.
 
If i could only remember how many working ones of these I threw away in the last 25 years....Of course I'm the one that threw my hardtop
for my FJ40 in the dump in 1980 because it needed some bodywork and paint that was going to cost about 500.00. Who knew Toyota would stop building everything for our trucks
 
If you have to question it on a FJ60.... it's not working.

The fan should kick on every time the engine shuts down. Very easy to hear.

Then mine isn't working either, dog gonnit. Carb fans..... you have to give a nod to the engineers on this one. lol
 
A frown more like it. The fan is a band-aid for the abominable thermonuclear reactor, affectionately known as the intake/exhaust manifold that's bolted together to roast the bejeezus out of the carb.
 
A frown more like it. The fan is a band-aid for the abominable thermonuclear reactor, affectionately known as the intake/exhaust manifold that's bolted together to roast the bejeezus out of the carb.

Cracked aluminum 300,000 miles later because they put the intake and exhaust on the same side may have been their sole idea of planned obsolescence.
 
@albert110 silly question maybe but I tried this last night.... did you need to get the larger housing removed from the truck before the smaller housing around the internals would come out? Mine seems to have a lip that holds it in it... so went at the housing and one of the bolts snapped. But other thing I noticed was from the lower section of the housing is two tubes, one is metal and on mine is bent up like its half heartedly closed off, the other has a 3" section of clear rubber tubing attached but cut. I'm gonna gather its supposed to have those open and attached to the vac system for air to push the fan? My plug was nice and shiny, when I detached it so at least I have that to feel good about.
 
@NeverGiveUpYota, yeah you definitely need to remove the whole assembly to get the motor out. The fan is bolted to the motor shaft and the only way to get at the nut to separate them is from the interior of the larger housing.
I noticed those two vent tubes, nothing is connected to them on mine, but I assume they were part of a system to vent the motor housing because of all the dust that builds up in there. It was on my list to figure out how it's supposed to be connected... It's a pretty long list at this point though at this point, and the parts that are leaking fluid are taking priority at the moment...
 
The carb fan was one of the first things my Dad commented on when I got my 60. He said his 40 had one too but he got so tired of people in parking lots telling him he left his engine running that he disconnected it. I am finding out that he wasn't lying. :rolleyes:
 
OP - Thanks for posting!

FWIW, to anyone, you can get a good aftermarket fan motor for about $50, if yours is toasty. Four Seasons 35404. Siemens motor in the box. The OE is NLA.
 
The carb fan was one of the first things my Dad commented on when I got my 60. He said his 40 had one too but he got so tired of people in parking lots telling him he left his engine running that he disconnected it. I am finding out that he wasn't lying. :rolleyes:
My first 60 fan worked great. It flipped on as soon as the truck shut off from the day I bought it in '08 to the day I sold it for parts in '13. In so many ways I wish I had stripped that truck back then... lesson learned.
 
Anyone happen to know what size the nut is on the sensor that holds the wire from the fan? I apparently lost mine recently as I was in the truck with the wife for a while and didn't hear the fan kick on when we parked again. Had her pop the hood and took a look and sure enough the wire was dangling. I remember it was pretty small, something like an M6 nut just cant remember.
 
Anyone happen to know what size the nut is on the sensor that holds the wire from the fan? I apparently lost mine recently as I was in the truck with the wife for a while and didn't hear the fan kick on when we parked again. Had her pop the hood and took a look and sure enough the wire was dangling. I remember it was pretty small, something like an M6 nut just cant remember.
I can go take a look and take a pix. Might be able to upload directly from my ph. Unless I could get the smaller housing off I can't get into where the wire connects as its under the cover. Sorry.
 
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Did a quick check and looks like an M4 nut. 6 or 7 mm wrench. But you probably figured it out by now.
 
@albert110, please shed some light on this for me... do I need to pull my hood to get that bolt out from under the bracket? I tried and it only goes just so far. How did you get the housing off to do yours? Hood or no?
 

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