BUILT FZJ80 or BUILD an LX450 (4 Viewers)

[ShottsUZJ100]

Can't we go back to the way it was bro.......................................................

Sure can! 80's suck (mine too). The UZJ100 wipes an 80 even at Pritchett Canyon and up Windowmaker. A 100 can outrun a Porche 911Turbo 0-100.

Is that better reffug? I know, you miss slamming me? There ya go!

 

[sleeoffroad]

Both trucks suck at towing due to the coil sprung rear end. I towed the Shortbus down to Moab with the 100 and that was enough to convince me to get a tow rig. I had a weight distribution hitch & airbags and it still sucked and I did not consider it safe.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Ya...but at least you have power in the 100.

 

[sleeoffroad]

Barely

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Barely

Ya, in that loaded LX of yours maybe. That huge rear bumper you bought off some dude was especially heavy.

 

[sleeoffroad]

Uhm, that was with my previous UZJ that only had a TJM rear and Sahara front bumper.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

I remember. I was doggin ya because I don't have my bumper yet.

 

[sleeoffroad]

Uhm, but I do Pretty close now

 

[ginericLC]

Both trucks suck at towing due to the coil sprung rear end. I towed the Shortbus down to Moab with the 100 and that was enough to convince me to get a tow rig. I had a weight distribution hitch & airbags and it still sucked and I did not consider it safe.

This is what I was getting at in the first part of the thread. You will not be happy using the 80 as a tow rig. If Chisto says a 100 sucks at it too, think about what it would take for him to say that. He's in the business of Cruisers. I think the higher you lift it and the bigger the tires you put on it the worse it gets. There is a difference between towing a little pop up camper or a utility or off road trailer and towing another LC. It is just too much weight.

 

[cruiserdan]

Mine tows a 3700lb boat, with a bunch of junk in the truck, just dandy.

 

[reffug]

Sure can! 80's suck (mine too). The UZJ100 wipes an 80 even at Pritchett Canyon and up Windowmaker. A 100 can outrun a Porche 911Turbo 0-100.

Is that better reffug? I know, you miss slamming me? There ya go!

To easy, no fun....................................

 

[hoser]

Both trucks suck at towing due to the coil sprung rear end.

I am guessing that leaf springs are favored because they locate the rear axle as opposed to coil springs where the axle "sways" back and forth and side to side when the suspension compresses.

 

[sleeoffroad]

Yes, but does it tow better than that big old Dodge you have

 

[Tigerstripe40]

Yes, but does it tow better than that big old Dodge you have

What about taking a 91/92 FJ80, swapping in a cummins turbo diesel, and a 14 bolt rear end narrowed to 80 series width, but with HD leaf springs, rather than the coils? Yeah, OK, a bunch of work, but wouldn't it be cool????

 

[RavenTai]

I am guessing that leaf springs are favored because they locate the rear axle as opposed to coil springs where the axle "sways" back and forth and side to side when the suspension compresses.

leaf springs can have a progressive spring rate with overload springs, so they handle a wider range of weights, where as a coil spring is basically tuned for a much smaller range of weights and sags much more when overloaded, coils generally provide better ride and more articulation

coil springs cannot locate an axle at all, so you get links to locate it, links can do a much better job of locating the axle than leaf springs, the left/right sway is from the pan hard rod that effectively get longer when the springs compresses and shorter on droop/expansion, making the pan hard longer and leveling it can reduce the left/right sway

 

[hoser]

Coil springs can be progressive as well. You can even stack different rate coils to get a "bi-rate" spring. I guess wasn't clear on the definition of "locate" but what I meant was that on leaf-sprung suspension, the axle will go up and down on one plane as opposed to an arc.

So, going back again... besides weight capacity, why are leaf springs better for towing?

 

[RavenTai]

I am not aware of an automotive suspension that is completely linear, they all have an arc in one form or another, leaf spring has a fore-aft arc, coil with pan hard has a left right and fore aft arc, coil with 4 link has a fore aft arc no left right

besides weight capacity, why are leaf springs better for towing?

I would like to know that myself, I thought load handling was the start middle and end of towing as far as springs are concerned.

Bit of a story, I came back from Florida at night with a case of MRE's, many cases of bottled water, camping supplies clothes in the back, (total maybe weighing 500 pounds?) plus a tiny trailer that was nose loaded with a set of tools (150LBS?) gas can and a cooler, the rear was sagging badly and people were flashing me, after about 50 miles of this I stopped and moved the water to the passenger seat and second row floor the cruiser leveled out enough to get only occasional flashes

I need OME springs bad

 

[montocr]

trailer?

What are you all talking about? L/C's are great multipurpose vehicles, but do we need to trick ourselves? Come on, these vehicles can tow. Certainly bettter than a heep Man Cherokee, but that is not the intent of the vehicle.

 

[Kaderabek]

Case of beer to the person who can get the damned trailer hitch off my 80.... Damned thing, lock is stuck. I was hoping to break it off at Windrock last weekend, no such luck. So yeah, mine will tow....

TJK

 

[Sangamo]

Trailer Hitch

Todd

Got torch??