Broken Ignition camshaft repair - steering wheel lock gate stuck

[pea nugget]

I THINK I have read everything that is on here, but I don't see anyone with this problem:

The steering wheel lock gate in the bottom of the ignition barrel will no longer slide over. It moves a little, but not enough to get the camshaft into the ignition switch. How does that get released?

 

[Tres Toys]

The lock gate should just push over easily with some spring back. unless there is something is binding. Try pushing it over with a long screw driver just to make sure it freely moves and springs back. It is very important to have the new rod positioned at the correct rotational orientation to get it to go in all the way. At about 11:20 in the video below the guy shows the correct orientation of the rod needed. I had to watch the video twice to get mine positioned correct for install.

best of luck

 

[pea nugget]

Yes, this is the video that I have been using. Extremely helpful. The challenge for me is that the gate is binding. Anyone know what could be causing this and how to release it?

 

[pea nugget]

I have tried rocking the car. Nothing will free it. Any ideas anyone?

 

[KliersLC]

I've never done this repair, but if I understand what you are saying (unlikely), maybe wiggle the steering wheel?

 

[MarkTR]

I meant to add my 2 cents but KliersLC is suggesting the same thing I was-Turn the steering wheel one way or the other while pushing on the gate.

If your lock pin is loaded up because the steering wheel is cocked enough to put a load on the locking pin it may be bound up in the steering column locking hole. Many feel that turning the key when there is a load on the pin is one reason that the cam will eventually break.

 

[pea nugget]

I have tried rocking the car. I don't know if I have pushed on the gate whilst rocking. I will try wiggling the wheel whilst pushing on the gate too.

Thanks for the ideas!

 

[pea nugget]

Guys! Guys! Guys! That was it! Thanks for the assistance. The wife thinks I'm a hero. I'll see if I can use this later for my benefit.

 

[MarkTR]

Did you unload the pin by turning the steering wheel? If that is what worked - good for you.

 

[pea nugget]

Correct. Once I put some pressure on the wheel, the gate slid out of the way!

 

[rockclmbr]

Question for pea nugget, did you ignition cam break and did you only replace the camshaft rod or did you also need to replace the ignition and get a new key and have a locksmith match keys/locks?

 

[MountaineerLC]

Of all the aftermarket parts on the market, I really wish someone would come up with an HD version of this ignition rod. I don't care if it even disabled the steering lock. Vehicle theft isn't a concern in my area. However, that little SOB snapping when I'm in BFE WV and miles from help and cell service does concern me.

 

[ElJayDeBay]

I’m going to piggy back on this thread as I just had the ignition cylinder break on my 2000 LX470 a couple nights ago. I took it apart and removed what I thought were both broken cylinder pieces but it turns out the tip also broke off alllll the way in the back of the housing.

I’m thinking couple dabs of glue on a long pokey metals rod to touch, set, let cure and pull out for extraction. Thoughts?

 

[pea nugget]

I would pop the white switch off the back of the shaft and not put any glue down there.

 

[MarkTR]

I’m going to piggy back on this thread as I just had the ignition cylinder break on my 2000 LX470 a couple nights ago. I took it apart and removed what I thought were both broken cylinder pieces but it turns out the tip also broke off alllll the way in the back of the housing.

I’m thinking couple dabs of glue on a long pokey metals rod to touch, set, let cure and pull out for extraction. Thoughts?

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I have never heard of anyone having the trifecta. I just turned a replacement rod out of 6061 that has a diameter that locks out the lock pin and is wide enough at the top end to center the rod when you install it. I am debating if I want to machine in a clearance slot for the spring-loaded pin on the side that I believe indicates the position of the key rotation- but I am not positive I need this to work. I know I do not care about the steering wheel lock feature and I have turned off my automatic telescope and tilt function..

 

[KliersLC]

I’m going to piggy back on this thread as I just had the ignition cylinder break on my 2000 LX470 a couple nights ago. I took it apart and removed what I thought were both broken cylinder pieces but it turns out the tip also broke off alllll the way in the back of the housing.

I’m thinking couple dabs of glue on a long pokey metals rod to touch, set, let cure and pull out for extraction. Thoughts?

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A vacuum crevice tool with a straw (or similar) taped on might work

 

[ElJayDeBay]

A vacuum crevice tool with a straw (or similar) taped on might work

I would pop the white switch off the

I would pop the white switch off the back of the shaft and not put any glue down there.

Good call. After doing that and removing the switch, it turns out the end was broken off in there. Now just waiting on my part. And of course lubricating the steering while it’s all out in the open.

 

[ElJayDeBay]

FYI this part is about 3x as much as the ones that will give you issues but works perfectly.

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