Blaster’s Tactical Machine Gun shoot (1 Viewer)

[Rustyj41]

Good morning everyone. I own a small gun business and we are hosting our first open range and machine gun shoot at Cowtown shooting range May 9, 2025 from 6 to 8 PM.

Feel free to stop by. You can bring your own equipment and ammo and utilize the range or you can shoot one of our machine guns for the cost of ammo. I will be bringing two Thompson M1 submachine guns, two M4 style, machine guns, and two AR9 machine guns. We will also have various semi automatic rifles and pistols.

We are hoping to conduct these open range days a few times a month as they pick up primarily in the evenings due to heat.

Feel free to shoot me a text message with questions at 602-769-9800

 

[Living in the Past]

@Rustyj41 has the May 1986 band on new full automatic weapons to the general public change? Only LEO and military changed are allowed to have own them still? Was active in military style weapons in the 1980s. Ammo was 10¢ round when bought in bulk. It was this band and one one in 1989 that made this a expensive hobby. Once the ammo prices shot up I put the hobby into mothballs. What's the current cost of 5.56X45, 7.62X39 and 7.62X51?

 

[Rustyj41]

Unfortunately, the machine gun came from May1986 is still in effect. In order to own a machine gun as a civilian it must have been manufactured prior to May 1986.

I’m a class 3 dealer (SOT2). Ammunition is still wildly overpriced. Around $.55 per round for 556 and more expensive for x39 and x51.

My goal is to allow those who are not allowed to own machine guns the opportunity to fire one. We are not in this to make a ton of money but to embrace our second amendment right.

 

[rick_d]

John
In 1986 Reagan signed the bill stopping new full auto guns from entering the “form 4” privately owned realm.
There are 175,000 +\- full auto that may be owned by private parties.
There are also samples and newly made guns SOT/FFL can possess.

 

[Living in the Past]

Unfortunately, the machine gun came from May1986 is still in effect. In order to own a machine gun as a civilian it must have been manufactured prior to May 1986.

I’m a class 3 dealer (SOT2). Ammunition is still wildly overpriced. Around $.55 per round for 556 and more expensive for x39 and x51.

My goal is to allow those who are not allowed to own machine guns the opportunity to fire one. We are not in this to make a ton of money but to embrace our second amendment right.

My understanding with a FFL you do not technically personally own a post May 1986 full automatic weapons. These are for the purpose of doing business with government agencies. So really a grey area. Having a FFL would assume you could be audited by the ATF at anytime and justify a reason for having any banded weapons.

I assume the 55¢ per round price is by the case?

 

[Rustyj41]

That’s correct I do not personally own the firearms. The LLC does. Having a FFL does open the door to the ATF to conduct an audit, but it is only during your posted business hours. Fortunately, I have some software that helps me keep everything accurate and up to the ATF standards. I try to stay out of the grey area as much as possible because I am also a police officer. A couple of guns are not worth my career.

Happy to pull a custom quote for you on ammunition if you’d like just shoot me a text message at 602-769-9800. Offering damn near dealer cost for MUD members.

 

[Living in the Past]

@rick_d I didn't have to look up the date. I was aware of it while it was happening. I know pre May of 1986 full automatic weapons could still be bought if buyer passes the back ground check and pays for tax stamp. Prior to the band I remember a dealer in North Phoenix that had three M16A1s for $600 a piece. $200 Tax Stamp and sale tax you could own legally own a full automatic for under $900. This was probably around 1985. Wasn't interested in an old M16A1 when a Colt AR-15 A2 weren't much more and was around $200 to have a FFL class three to convert one. Either still required the Tax Stamp. So what does a pre May 1986 M16/AR-15 converted cost today? A lot more than inflation rate has been since 1986.

 

[Rustyj41]

A pre-band M 16 style rifle is usually going for about $30,000. A pre-band Thompson is close to 40 to $50,000. And I saw a M 60 go for about $75,000 last year.

Whereas with my license, I can take an off the shelf rifle drill the hole and put an auto seer in for about 25 bucks.

There is a lot of upkeep with the license cost $550-$1000 per year based on how many items you contribute to the market. Then any of the items I acquire when I give up my license I have to get rid of.

 

[rick_d]

Could have would have should have.
Irrelevant because had you bought a home in La Jolla in 1985 you could have bought 100 colt m16’s today.
Bought an hk sear in 2005 for $10k , sold for $17k in 2013 or so and now $50k.

But my kid graduated from college debt free a more important timely decision.

 

[RHINO]

But my kid graduated from college debt free a more important timely decision.

and to continue the thread de-rail, Amen brother.

both my kids graduated debt free, and within a few yrs of entering the workforce they both transitioned into jobs that had nothing to do with the education they recieved.

 

[peneumbra2]

I have - somewhere - a magazine advertisement for a hardware store selling Thompsons for $35. From 1930.

Oh, by the way: do you do off-premises rentals of Thompsons? I, uh, have to do a withdrawal at the local bank...

 

[Rustyj41]

Haha. I do offer private sessions at cowtown