AltFuel biodiesel/wvo and fuel lines ..req replacement?
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stasis1 said:
where do you live? if its in a wamer place, like Vancouver, for 1k you can have a second tank and run WVO straight, heated .
Then no fn around. just filtering in dirty oil.
I like the second tank idea myself, as bio needs to be cut with diesel in the cold anyhow. WVO once up to temp works in any climate. Its getting it to temp that is the problem.
But I spoke with a few makers of kits, and for my climate they suggested a inside tank. No problem with veggie oil, no flammable vapour.
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Used ATF for oil and no ill effects.
Poured in one quart of ATF into the engine and ran the vehicle for 5 minitues. The engine made no change in sound while running it in the engine. I might do it again on the next change to clear out more carbon and make the engine last longer.
I failed to also note in my first posting that my oil pressure gage or more likly the oil transmitter does not work and never has. I would like to replace it and that cost 45 dollars. Or mabey somone can recomend a aftermarket one?
I know the edac is a unit that is mounted to the engine and should shut the engine off if the oil pressure gets to low. Is there a way to test that unit on a occational basis? I know there is a wire connected to the edac that when removed, will shut off the unit. I could also hook that into hidden switch and use it as way to prevent thieves from steeling it. Where is the wire located?
Harryv
Poured in one quart of ATF into the engine and ran the vehicle for 5 minitues. The engine made no change in sound while running it in the engine. I might do it again on the next change to clear out more carbon and make the engine last longer.
I failed to also note in my first posting that my oil pressure gage or more likly the oil transmitter does not work and never has. I would like to replace it and that cost 45 dollars. Or mabey somone can recomend a aftermarket one?
I know the edac is a unit that is mounted to the engine and should shut the engine off if the oil pressure gets to low. Is there a way to test that unit on a occational basis? I know there is a wire connected to the edac that when removed, will shut off the unit. I could also hook that into hidden switch and use it as way to prevent thieves from steeling it. Where is the wire located?
Harryv
Brownbear, yea i know the problem is veg oil the cheapest i can get is A$8/4ltr. So that work out to be A$2/ltr. Thats expensive cos my petroD cost me only A$0.60/ltr. So its not economical for me to run on SVO. The only way to get around that is to manufacture my own Biod from used cooking oil. Also sometimes it get cold for 6 mths out of the year dropping below 15 deg on avg during that 3 mths. Im still thinking about my options. We wull be firing up our generator (500kva) soon and it guzzles 98ltr of diesel/hr under full load @A$1.20/ltrbrownbear said:
. you see what i mean now. The price difference is because the winery dont get fuel rebate from the govt the vineyard does thats why it only A$60/ltr for my diesel
no need to buy new oil, lots are running wvo in there straight set up.
search you shall see.
I have found new oil in bulk(215L) for around .40L
search you shall see.
I have found new oil in bulk(215L) for around .40L
Harryv, read this thread.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=71317
also download the manuals for your truck from the birfield.com site.
Look at the wiring diagrams for the EDIC. its a relay that controls a motor. Also search up EDIC and read those threads.
Afterwards PM if you still aren't sure. Or start a thread. But read all you can first. Otherwise the posts will be search search search.....and so on.
The wire you are thinking about is the low oil px sw. But this thread is for biodiesel so go read the anti thief one.
Cheers
https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=71317
also download the manuals for your truck from the birfield.com site.
Look at the wiring diagrams for the EDIC. its a relay that controls a motor. Also search up EDIC and read those threads.
Afterwards PM if you still aren't sure. Or start a thread. But read all you can first. Otherwise the posts will be search search search.....and so on.
The wire you are thinking about is the low oil px sw. But this thread is for biodiesel so go read the anti thief one.
Cheers
Try searching. www.greasecar.com
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html
http://www.dieselveg.com/prod01.htm
http://www.deltechnet.com/?act=prod&code=p&id=51
http://www.rainbowtradingpost.co.uk/vegdieselkit.htm
And for tanks
http://store.summitracing.com/defau...eywordSearch&DDS=1&N=115&target=egnsearch.asp
Even mud has talked about this on many threads, just use SVO, WVO, oil, veggie oil, biodiesel.....etc for search words.
I am not set up yet. Its about 1000. CAD to do this right.
I would mount the tank internal in the vehicle. Canada is too cold for external. Plus once warm it will add warmth to the vehicle.
Also For extreme cold, I would not go bigger than a 15 gallon tank, as it takes to long to heat. Unless you are pluggin in everynight.
Cheers
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html
http://www.dieselveg.com/prod01.htm
http://www.deltechnet.com/?act=prod&code=p&id=51
http://www.rainbowtradingpost.co.uk/vegdieselkit.htm
And for tanks
http://store.summitracing.com/defau...eywordSearch&DDS=1&N=115&target=egnsearch.asp
Even mud has talked about this on many threads, just use SVO, WVO, oil, veggie oil, biodiesel.....etc for search words.
I am not set up yet. Its about 1000. CAD to do this right.
I would mount the tank internal in the vehicle. Canada is too cold for external. Plus once warm it will add warmth to the vehicle.
Also For extreme cold, I would not go bigger than a 15 gallon tank, as it takes to long to heat. Unless you are pluggin in everynight.
Cheers
Oh, Iam going to this dual tank set up to run veggie oil straight, although it does require starting on diesel, heating the oil before switching it on, and then purging the system after.
But some of the new systems have a fast purge, as the valve is near by.
Also some use a heat stic in the fuel line to get it to 180 degrees before injection.
At 180 degrees veggie oil flows like diesel.
But some of the new systems have a fast purge, as the valve is near by.
Also some use a heat stic in the fuel line to get it to 180 degrees before injection.
At 180 degrees veggie oil flows like diesel.
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weld in round tank carrier in rear floor.
Got a email from greasecar and thay said thay would not sell me the tank if it haungs underneath where the spare tire would normally go. to modify my vehicle for this extra fuel tank I would mount the spare tire on a extrnal swing arm on the vehcile to make room for the second fuel tank. So the idea is to cut out a round area where a spare would normally be like in a car, then weld in a round flat bottomed tub that is simular in shape to a spare tire well. Weld in some stand offs and mounting ring for the round biodiesel fuel tank. Then line it with 1 inch of foam or styrofoam and mount the tank in it. Run the fuel lines to the engine and insuralte it and the water lines comming from the engine. Dont forget to install the filters ect. I might make this a 25 liter tank.
Anyone think this is a good idea?
Harryv
Got a email from greasecar and thay said thay would not sell me the tank if it haungs underneath where the spare tire would normally go. to modify my vehicle for this extra fuel tank I would mount the spare tire on a extrnal swing arm on the vehcile to make room for the second fuel tank. So the idea is to cut out a round area where a spare would normally be like in a car, then weld in a round flat bottomed tub that is simular in shape to a spare tire well. Weld in some stand offs and mounting ring for the round biodiesel fuel tank. Then line it with 1 inch of foam or styrofoam and mount the tank in it. Run the fuel lines to the engine and insuralte it and the water lines comming from the engine. Dont forget to install the filters ect. I might make this a 25 liter tank.
Anyone think this is a good idea?
Harryv
i was reading the thread from biodiesel gear and one of the catalogs says that cars that was manufactured before 1993 should not use 100% BioD and should mix with PetroD. The mix is BioD 20% or 35%. Also should keep an eye on the fuel lines and injector seals.
You have to take into considerations in the event of you flipping the car over. (touch wood). The fuel tank should be places some where safe. Especially of the possibility of getting rear ended. I still prefer the location of the existing tank.
But its up to you
You have to take into considerations in the event of you flipping the car over. (touch wood). The fuel tank should be places some where safe. Especially of the possibility of getting rear ended. I still prefer the location of the existing tank.
But its up to you
For 25 liters why bother mounting below, go inside where its warm.
look at the tanks here, and valve. http://www.rainbowtradingpost.co.uk/vegdieselkit.htm#Which kit
There many marine style tanks you can mount inside.
Remember you are not putting diesel in the tank. Or gas. This is just oil. Its relatively not flammable. Its not vaporous or explosive. Its safe. even the temp is low enough not to be dangerous. Well almost.
I would definately mount inside. Going underneath just makes it harder to fill, an obstruction that can get hit on the trail and harder to heat.
IMOP But if your in Vancouver, its warm there. Anywhere else if we only want to use it 6 months of the year, then we mount external..........
look at the tanks here, and valve. http://www.rainbowtradingpost.co.uk/vegdieselkit.htm#Which kit
There many marine style tanks you can mount inside.
Remember you are not putting diesel in the tank. Or gas. This is just oil. Its relatively not flammable. Its not vaporous or explosive. Its safe. even the temp is low enough not to be dangerous. Well almost.
I would definately mount inside. Going underneath just makes it harder to fill, an obstruction that can get hit on the trail and harder to heat.
IMOP But if your in Vancouver, its warm there. Anywhere else if we only want to use it 6 months of the year, then we mount external..........
On a BJ60 I would use a 65L tank, like in the link above.
Anything smaller you would not have any range. Think 10-12 Liters per 100kms. So how far do you want to travel? Whats average.
A 25L would be less than 2hrs driving hwy. Cause ya gotta leave some in the bottom, draining it is not an option, otherwise you will bleeding thick oil in the middle of the highway. YUck.
Anything smaller you would not have any range. Think 10-12 Liters per 100kms. So how far do you want to travel? Whats average.
A 25L would be less than 2hrs driving hwy. Cause ya gotta leave some in the bottom, draining it is not an option, otherwise you will bleeding thick oil in the middle of the highway. YUck.
haryv said:
I have seen the filler hose and fuel lines from a BJ40 that ran bio-diesel for over a year. They were done. I made the mistake of picking up the filler hose with my bare hands...that black took lots of work to get off. You may not have to change them right away to run bio-diesel, but you will have to change them at some point. You could see the cords on the filler tube...the rubber was gone.
hth's
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