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I'm going to be getting back into lifting. I decided it has been too long since I did some very heavy throwing of the weights around.
Been a while since I did this so I need a good store, place, web site, etc... to get supplements on. My old source sucks now and the other is in LA. If anyone has a hook up somewhere let me know.

I don't think i'll hit my last competative weight of 285 with a low body fat %. but i'd like to get around 270. That seems to be a good goal for me right now.
 
I totally hear you Jerry, and god knows I have wasted a ton of $ on some crap, but with the calories he is going to need to put on the weight it is going to get very expensive. Protein/carb supplements can be an affordable alternative to help him obtain his goals, don't you think?
 
I suggest lots of hot dogs. Maybe good ole "carolina reds" for breakfast, all beef for lunch, and some natural casings for dinner. Throw in some regular Oscar Myers in between meals for snacks.

:beer: R
 
Jerry would know best, as he gets paid for it. But, when I was lifting, just a simple protein shake after worked for me. I'd usually throw a banana or some peanut butter in to change the flavor. Just a whey based protein, don't do soy as it adds extra estrogen to your system, and you're too much of a girl already! :D

I played around with creatine for a little while, but it made me piss like a race horse, and was probably more pyschological than anything.
 
shellb said:
I totally hear you Jerry, and god knows I have wasted a ton of $ on some crap, but with the calories he is going to need to put on the weight it is going to get very expensive. Protein/carb supplements can be an affordable alternative to help him obtain his goals, don't you think?
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I wish I could agree. Egg whites are the most easily metabolized protein and they are cheap. Same with legumes and other "beans".

As an example, a handful of new peer-reviewd studies shows that 2% chocolate milk is equally effective as a post-workout, recovery drink. Instead of spending the money "high protein" recovery drink mixes, one could buy gallons of chocolate milk.

The best way to do this with a little math. Studies show that the body can only assimilate 0.8-1.5 grams of protein, two studies showed as much as 1.7g. Being generous, if a target weight of 270 (123kg), I'd advise consuming 123 kg x 1.5 g - 2.0 g = 185 - 246 g of protein / day. That will provide ~740 - 984 kcal.

Protein beyond that range will be "voided" since protein is the most difficult to store as fat. This is why the "Atkins" diets work.

Best advise is to have ~ 25-30% Protein, 30% fat and fill in the rest with "good" carbs. That would give ~ 4000 kcal/ day, 1200 kcal fat, 1000 kcal protein, 1800 kcal carbs, all these are the high end.

I'd bet Al could easily find that from the grocery store instead of GNC...
 
So hot dogs is the answer then? Cool!!

:beer: R
 
Mtbcoach said:
I wish I could agree. Egg whites are the most easily metabolized protein and they are cheap. Same with legumes and other "beans".

As an example, a handful of new peer-reviewd studies shows that 2% chocolate milk is equally effective as a post-workout, recovery drink. Instead of spending the money "high protein" recovery drink mixes, one could buy gallons of chocolate milk.

The best way to do this with a little math. Studies show that the body can only assimilate 0.8-1.5 grams of protein, two studies showed as much as 1.7g. Being generous, if a target weight of 270 (123kg), I'd advise consuming 123 kg x 1.5 g - 2.0 g = 185 - 246 g of protein / day. That will provide ~740 - 984 kcal.

Protein beyond that range will be "voided" since protein is the most difficult to store as fat. This is why the "Atkins" diets work.

Best advise is to have ~ 25-30% Protein, 30% fat and fill in the rest with "good" carbs. That would give ~ 4000 kcal/ day, 1200 kcal fat, 1000 kcal protein, 1800 kcal carbs, all these are the high end.

I'd bet Al could easily find that from the grocery store instead of GNC...
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I do try to do natural stuff as much as possible. I'm not talking about NOS or any of that other stuff. Just protein powder, green tea extract, fish oil and later on in my cycles creatine.

I used to lift with some guys, two of whom had world records in different lifts, and one that was a nutritionist, that spoke the gospel of "good" supplements (which I try to adhere to).

I know from my own experience that I hit a peak at lifts that I couldn't break for 4 months but when I started to do creatine I busted through it in a hurry.

Also my work schedule is hectic and i'm sometimes lucky to see solid food in between breakfast and lunch. Bars and shakes are easy to take on the road with me.

Jerry i'd love to see a meal plan that you could make up for me though that I could work with.
 
Mtbcoach said:
I wish I could agree. Egg whites are the most easily metabolized protein and they are cheap. Same with legumes and other "beans".

As an example, a handful of new peer-reviewd studies shows that 2% chocolate milk is equally effective as a post-workout, recovery drink. Instead of spending the money "high protein" recovery drink mixes, one could buy gallons of chocolate milk.

The best way to do this with a little math. Studies show that the body can only assimilate 0.8-1.5 grams of protein, two studies showed as much as 1.7g. Being generous, if a target weight of 270 (123kg), I'd advise consuming 123 kg x 1.5 g - 2.0 g = 185 - 246 g of protein / day. That will provide ~740 - 984 kcal.

Protein beyond that range will be "voided" since protein is the most difficult to store as fat. This is why the "Atkins" diets work.

Best advise is to have ~ 25-30% Protein, 30% fat and fill in the rest with "good" carbs. That would give ~ 4000 kcal/ day, 1200 kcal fat, 1000 kcal protein, 1800 kcal carbs, all these are the high end.

I'd bet Al could easily find that from the grocery store instead of GNC...
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Trust me - I agree with you and your approach, but I can't agree that it isn't cost effective - no chance.

My point was simply ~200 g of protein a day = $$$. Eggs/Tuna/Bean/Whatever, it is still going to cost a lot, the volumes are significant to get 200g a day.

When we are talking about how much he is going to need, protein supplements can help bring that cost down.
 
shellb said:
Trust me - I agree with you and your approach, but I can't agree that it isn't cost effective - no chance.

My point was simply ~200 g of protein a day = $$$. Eggs/Tuna/Bean/Whatever, it is still going to cost a lot, the volumes are significant to get 200g a day.

When we are talking about how much he is going to need, protein supplements can help bring that cost down.
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I sat at the UNC-CH football training table for a season and ate every night with the team. If it was truly cheaper, I'd guess that supplements would be used at the team table rather than massive chicken/turkey breasts and lean beef.

Yet, I'm sure one could find some inexpensive whey protein based supplements that could be cheaper than real food. And, one would expect that said inexpensive supplement isn't something I'd rather put in my body. I'd rather do as Ramon suggests and eat hot dogs. At least they are regulated to some extent. One must remember that supplement companies have very little oversight.

I had a cyclist who continued to get sick, I thought it was from the supplements. In CA, there used to be a company called PharmChem who would do anonymous testing (it started in the late 60's to help identify what people considered putting in their body). We got the test results back and the protein was ground/dried bull testicles.

Personally, in as much as I'm a fat phauk, I do take great care and pay attention to what I put in my body.

But, to each their own...
 
I guess if there is ANY advantage it might be cost - but like you said at what "cost"?

Not a fan of Rocky Mountain Oysters? Ha!
 
I bulked up about 40 lbs in the Stan in 9 months one trip. I came back at 4% BF. I ate alot of tuna and protein shakes over there. Not like you could get anything good though either. Anytime any one sent stuff over it was always good tuna.

Now i lost all that but here soon i am turning my 2 car garage into a gym. Got about 1000lbs of free weights already.
 
As ironic or unbelievable as it might seem, I used to be really into supplements (always over the counter though) when in college.

I wasted a ton of money on creatine and NOS, but justified it at the time (young and dumb). The only supplement(s) I would/do take now are a multi-vitamin, glucosamine chondroitin, fish oil and a high grade (low cholesterol) whey protein.

Who knows what impact taking all that NOS had on my Hodgkins diagnosis :hhmm:.

But back to your question - if and when I buy any supplements I get them from GNC during their Gold Card discount days (usually one day a month).

The only thing I take at the moment is a multi-vitamin.
 
Everyone reacts different to what they put in their body too.

I do 5-6 triathlons and half marathons a year along with a few days a week of lifting... I work out at 515am which i usually eat a cliff bar and a bottled water for, by about 830 or 9 i wiill usually have a bagel or english muffin with egg or peanut butter on it... I do use the Chocolate milk trick for recovery and it is by far the best i have tried and i have tried them all. I like to think that just healthy eating and consistent eating during the day is the key...even if you have 2 healthy meals a day and 1 isnt, you'll be in good shape. the difference is that At this point i dont care about getting big at all... just be fit.

The supplements will help but i agree with Jerry... you do piss more of it out than you use. There is a limit to what you body can absorb at one time. additional creatine sucks for you kidneys...
 
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