Do yourself a favor and install some Filon or white aluminum over that OSB to protect it...might want to even put a good layer of sealer before.
Bedroom Bathroom Remodel Questions
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Not sure why this recommendation. Eventually (soon) it will get a layer of house wrap and then some Hardieplank.
Time for another update since it's been a while. Had a two week trip to Yellowstone that kept me from getting any work done. Now I'm in a big hurry - spent about 40 hours on it over the past three days.
Got the rest of the siding on the north side removed. Then made the decision to do the back porch. This part of the house was originally exterior and was closed in at some point. I really didn't want to tackle this now but I pretty much had to since I'm going to do siding. There were two problems with the back porch, the east side was framed about two inches beyond the foundation and the north side was about eight inches from the foundation. The 'new' outside back porch floor was above the basement. Not sure if this makes sense.
Anyway, I wanted to line up the east wall with the bathroom I did a few years back. When I did the bathroom, I framed the wall where it was supposed to be so I really need to match up the rest of the was so it was a straight shot instead of a two inch jog. I also wanted to frame the north wall flush with the foundation and the rest of the house.
Of course this meant redoing the pony wall between the foundation and the floor and then removing the back porch walls and moving it all in a couple of inches. It also meant removing part of the roof to extend the north wall eight inches. My plan is to build a new back porch and extend the roof over the porch and down the north side of the house about 10 feet. Stay tuned...
This was a lot of work. Whoever built this originally liked to use ring shank and screw shank nails so it didn't want to come apart. A sawzall wasmy best friend on the demolition portion. There was also more jacking and temporary supporting required.
Pictures...
- Insulbrick and asbestos tile removed. Too bad the original siding isn't in good enough shape to use.
- Old back porch before.
- Old back porch being demolished. New pony wall was already in.
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More pictures.
- Pony wall in - back porch wall out. Temporary support in place.
- Everything framed
- Sheeted. I was real happy how the sheeting lined up so well. Everything is plumb and level and matches up nicely with the existing wall.
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Little more progress last weekend. Got the kitchen window framed, all the OSB up and the roof framed, sheeted and tar papered. I've been worrying about the roof - in Seattle you never know when the rain may come. I'm real happy with the way the sheeting on the walls came out - very straight.
I was going to remove and replace the windows in the middle of the house because they were framed out to match the fake brick - they are installed on 5/8 plywood and the OSB is 7/16. I decided it was far too much work for 3/16 of an inch. It would have required removing all the interior trim, cutting it down and then putting it back up. I haven't decided exactly how I'm going to work out the 3/16, but I'm sure I'll come up with a solution.
The three new windows are in so I'm going to pick them up tomorrow. Hopefully this weekend I'll get all the trim installed and ready for siding.
A couple pictures.
I was going to remove and replace the windows in the middle of the house because they were framed out to match the fake brick - they are installed on 5/8 plywood and the OSB is 7/16. I decided it was far too much work for 3/16 of an inch. It would have required removing all the interior trim, cutting it down and then putting it back up. I haven't decided exactly how I'm going to work out the 3/16, but I'm sure I'll come up with a solution.
The three new windows are in so I'm going to pick them up tomorrow. Hopefully this weekend I'll get all the trim installed and ready for siding.
A couple pictures.
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Few more:
- The 3/16 I need to make up.
- Window framed. It's a little different with a header top and bottom, but there's a reason I did it that way.
- Roof sheeted and tar papered - well except for that corner where I ran out of paper.
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Another weekend and more work on the house. Didn't get a lot done, only worked about a day and a half. The new windows came in so I picked those up. I also decided to redo some of the back porch framing.
See, when I was framing the wall, I realized I didn't plan for headers over the windows. At the time I rationalized that there wasn't a lot of roof load so I could get by without a header. I really think I convinced myself because I didn't have enough lumber on hand. Anyway, it was bothering me enough to tear it apart and add a header. I only had six inches of clearance so I just used a double 2x6, once again convincing myself that will be good enough.
Then I got the three windows installed. It's taken 10 years but I've finally got all the windows replaced. I added some facia and then roofed the back porch roof. I left the corner above the back door because I'm still trying to figure out what to do there. I need to get the outside porch framed and decide how to cover it.
Previously it had 2x2 framing and corrugated plastic since there isn't a lot of clearance. I'd like to tie in with the existing roof and pull out a gable, but can't figure out how to make that work. The left side is no problem as I could just continue the same pitch across a gable. The right side where it would tie into the house wouldn't work as well. I can't really picture it but it seems I'd need a valley which would drain right to the house. I may drop the porch one step from the door to give myself a little more height, but I don't really like that plan either.
Anyway, a few pictures.
See, when I was framing the wall, I realized I didn't plan for headers over the windows. At the time I rationalized that there wasn't a lot of roof load so I could get by without a header. I really think I convinced myself because I didn't have enough lumber on hand. Anyway, it was bothering me enough to tear it apart and add a header. I only had six inches of clearance so I just used a double 2x6, once again convincing myself that will be good enough.
Then I got the three windows installed. It's taken 10 years but I've finally got all the windows replaced. I added some facia and then roofed the back porch roof. I left the corner above the back door because I'm still trying to figure out what to do there. I need to get the outside porch framed and decide how to cover it.
Previously it had 2x2 framing and corrugated plastic since there isn't a lot of clearance. I'd like to tie in with the existing roof and pull out a gable, but can't figure out how to make that work. The left side is no problem as I could just continue the same pitch across a gable. The right side where it would tie into the house wouldn't work as well. I can't really picture it but it seems I'd need a valley which would drain right to the house. I may drop the porch one step from the door to give myself a little more height, but I don't really like that plan either.
Anyway, a few pictures.
- Cutting out new framing
- Completed header on one of the windows
- Windows installed
Greattt pictures..The complete room will look good after the bathroom renovation..It will give a beautiful impression to your bedroom..
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Thanks - right now I'm having a hard time believing this will ever be completed.
Been a few weeks since the last update. Doesn't mean I haven't been working, just to lazy to update. I did take Labor Day weekend off to go camping. My weekend time has also been limited now that school has started. This weekend I have to get kids to two soccer games, cross country meet, soccer practice and skiing practice.
The weekend after Labor Day I spent building a door jamb for the back door. The door is a non-standard height so instead of going and buying a prehung, ready to go door for $200, I spent the better part of three days and $150 building a frame to fit my door. Spent most of Friday formulating a plan and gathering parts. Think I made about five trips to various stores for pieces. I ended up with a Jeld-wen frame that I cut to size and a threshold and brick molding from a local door store. Got it all installed towards the end of Saturday and realized I had cut the frame an inch too tall.
Things are always easier to do the second time. Sunday I removed the door, cut the frame down, and re-installed.Last weekend was the back porch. The last piece before I'm ready to get everything trimmed out and ready for the Hardieplank. Pretty simple task since it's a pretty simple deck. Got it as far as I'm going to go for now. Eventually I'd like to get is covered and underneath sealed up but that will have to come later.
Took yesterday and today off work to get some work done, since my weekends are mostly filled. Got almost all the felt down and almost all the trim up - couple little things left to do. I'm also going to have to cut some of the old siding to match up to the trim on the south wall.
I'm hoping to start hanging siding next weekend.
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I've been working on this siding project for a few months, and it's only rained once - in Seattle. I know, it's hard to believe. Well, Thursday I got the all siding on the north side hung and started the east side. Thursday night the rains hit. Friday I got most of the east side completed - just a few little pieces to go. I've been pretty lucky weather wise.
I still need to finish the east side, the corners above the porch roof, part of the front porch then caulk and paint. But I'm pretty happy to get it all the major parts covered before any really bad weather hit.
Some pictures.
I still need to finish the east side, the corners above the porch roof, part of the front porch then caulk and paint. But I'm pretty happy to get it all the major parts covered before any really bad weather hit.
Some pictures.
Way more work than I ever would want to do. You are moving along very nicely. Congrats!
I read in an earlier post of yours that you were thinking of installing an on-demand water heater. Don't know your location, but I'm in Fla. and we had one installed about 6 mos. ago(Noritz). The unit works great when heating(propane fueled) a constant water flow. But---
If you have a concern for water usage, this thing will waste a lot of water before getting hot-gets even worse when the weather gets cooler. It may be cheaper for the energy usage, but if you are concerned with excessive wasted water, I would think hard about the conversion. I even insulated all the hot water lines, and it didn't help that much.
Had to fiddle with the temp settings a lot to get the thing to quit shutting down in the middle of a shower-lowered now to 110 deg.F(not good for the dishwasher, which needs 160). For the cost of this thing-$1800, you could buy a lot of electric heater tanks at $300 ea., even if it does have a 12 year warranty.
By the way, it appears you have some serious help with the restoration--got a guy who loves Stanley tape measures, and a girl who wants to extend the fence--they must be a great help!
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I read in an earlier post of yours that you were thinking of installing an on-demand water heater. Don't know your location, but I'm in Fla. and we had one installed about 6 mos. ago(Noritz). The unit works great when heating(propane fueled) a constant water flow. But---
If you have a concern for water usage, this thing will waste a lot of water before getting hot-gets even worse when the weather gets cooler. It may be cheaper for the energy usage, but if you are concerned with excessive wasted water, I would think hard about the conversion. I even insulated all the hot water lines, and it didn't help that much.
Had to fiddle with the temp settings a lot to get the thing to quit shutting down in the middle of a shower-lowered now to 110 deg.F(not good for the dishwasher, which needs 160). For the cost of this thing-$1800, you could buy a lot of electric heater tanks at $300 ea., even if it does have a 12 year warranty.
By the way, it appears you have some serious help with the restoration--got a guy who loves Stanley tape measures, and a girl who wants to extend the fence--they must be a great help!
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Yeah – I think this was more work than I wanted to take on too. I just have a hard time paying someone a lot of money to do something that isn’t that hard and materials aren’t that expensive.
I gave up on the on-demand water heater for some of the same reasons you mention. There was no way I was going to get it installed for less than $2K, even doing a lot of the work myself. If I recall, gas piping was $10 a foot and I needed close to 50 feet. Then I had to get my gas meter upgraded to a larger size, which was mostly free but still a hassle with permitting and timing the work. So a lot of work and expense and not much return on investment. I ended up buying a brand new Bradford White off of Craigslist for cheap and have been running that for a few years with no problems. It may cost a little more per year to operate but I think the installation cost more than makes up for it.
I have four helpers, all boys, so I think you must not have identified one correctly. If you check posts 72 and 73, you can see them all. They all have hammers and tape measures, some have speed squares and chalk lines, screwdrivers, wrenches, pliers and who knows what else. Every Christmas they get more tools for their toolbox. As they get older they should all have a good set of tools and maybe they’ll stay out of mine.
I need to update this post, got a couple more things done – some siding above the roof, a roof over the back porch, some wiring and some insulation. Guess I need to get those pictures ‘developed’.
I gave up on the on-demand water heater for some of the same reasons you mention. There was no way I was going to get it installed for less than $2K, even doing a lot of the work myself. If I recall, gas piping was $10 a foot and I needed close to 50 feet. Then I had to get my gas meter upgraded to a larger size, which was mostly free but still a hassle with permitting and timing the work. So a lot of work and expense and not much return on investment. I ended up buying a brand new Bradford White off of Craigslist for cheap and have been running that for a few years with no problems. It may cost a little more per year to operate but I think the installation cost more than makes up for it.
I have four helpers, all boys, so I think you must not have identified one correctly. If you check posts 72 and 73, you can see them all. They all have hammers and tape measures, some have speed squares and chalk lines, screwdrivers, wrenches, pliers and who knows what else. Every Christmas they get more tools for their toolbox. As they get older they should all have a good set of tools and maybe they’ll stay out of mine.
I need to update this post, got a couple more things done – some siding above the roof, a roof over the back porch, some wiring and some insulation. Guess I need to get those pictures ‘developed’.
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Its been a while since I updated this so thought I post a few more pictures. I've made a little progress but really haven't been working on things much. The outside work is now 'weather permitting'.
I got the corners above the roof sided on two of the three corners that need to be done. The third requires removing old siding, trimming, cutting and re-installing old siding and then putting up the new. Even though it's a small area I figure it will take some time because I'll have to get out lots of tools and it a tough area to access. I still need to do the front porch too.
I moved inside and wired up the inside back porch and then insulated. Still need to get some drywall up. I needed to get the wiring done so I could clean up the basement. Everything has been in disarray since I rebuilt the back porch in August - or whenever that was.
After it started raining, I noticed I was taking on a little water at the back door so I figured a roof was in order. I thought about how to do it for a long time but never came up with a good plan, even after I bought materials. I was going to put up walls on the side so it was enclosed but was having trouble deciding how to side it so in the end, I just built a roof. I can enclose it later if I want.
On to the pictures.
I got the corners above the roof sided on two of the three corners that need to be done. The third requires removing old siding, trimming, cutting and re-installing old siding and then putting up the new. Even though it's a small area I figure it will take some time because I'll have to get out lots of tools and it a tough area to access. I still need to do the front porch too.
I moved inside and wired up the inside back porch and then insulated. Still need to get some drywall up. I needed to get the wiring done so I could clean up the basement. Everything has been in disarray since I rebuilt the back porch in August - or whenever that was.
After it started raining, I noticed I was taking on a little water at the back door so I figured a roof was in order. I thought about how to do it for a long time but never came up with a good plan, even after I bought materials. I was going to put up walls on the side so it was enclosed but was having trouble deciding how to side it so in the end, I just built a roof. I can enclose it later if I want.
On to the pictures.
