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The other thing they have to be convinced of is that the owners of JDM's would most likely have not bought CDM vehicles if the JDM's weren't available.

This is more important if we would like the manufacturers to bring these in new and LHD.

I for one am NOT interested in ANYTHING currently offered new by ANY manufacturer in Canada! I will keep my CDM '82 BJ60 running until it is no longer economically feasible. If at that time the JDM's are no longer available I'll continue to keep my BJ60 going by canibalizing others REGARDLESS of cost. I will NOT buy something I do not want!
 
Ready To Sign

I'm ready to sign .
Tell me where I can print and sign my name and I'll go there..WITH NO DELAY!!:grinpimp:

There is no room here for the TYPICAL APETHETIC Canadian response.:mad:
If you sit back and do nothing there is one less voice that could make a difference. I want to keep the right to own and operate my 15 year old RHD vehicle.:D
DON'T YOU..???
As above in previous posts spread the word to other car and truck enthusiasts, clubs organizations and do it now..They could also help us to keep our rights..and theirs..

Lets go!! Lets get Organized !! lets get it done once and for all and I mean for ALL of us..

Now where do I go to sign??

Richard Humpage
 
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Wayne,

It isn't fear mongering - I am simply stating what I am doing - I will have my own trucks purchased by then - my keepers. And, I suggest that since there is more than just rumours about this that aynone who wants a JDM should plan on buying one in the next 2 years. You think this will cause a rash of buying?? I don't think so. Most of the guys on this board import their own cruisers, I am not looking to fear monger people into buying from me - or you - or anyone else. I am a dealer and I am also a realist and a cruiserhead.

This is not the same talk that has been going on for years by the way, I suggest you make new contacts at TC, more relaible contacts.

To say that nothing is happening at this point is false - something is happening - you were the one who posted the article. Meetings are taking place - something is happening - I am sure you read the article. You tell people to be more active in this cause, that nothing is happening, then saying that people are doing nothing and they should do something about it, and in the same breath you say that anyone who says this importing is coming to an end is a fear mongerer - who is the messenger and who is doing the fear mongering?

When I say use a blog and not your site - it is for the image to the gov't who might be looking at it as lobby group basically. Do they take it more seriously coming from a commercial importer site or from a group of people interested and fighting for a cause. I have been involved in this type of thing before and have some experience with it so I am just offering suggestions. Take em or leave em. The commercal aspect is the view from the gov't - not from a point of view of increasing your sales in short.

THE RHDTLC group although is open to anyone is not as easily accecsed as a webpage or blog. Check out the blogs and you will see what I mean.

LOL, I don't think anyone is screaming that the sky is falling, and I don't think that we need a holy person reveared by the RHD community as a spokesperson. No one in the skyline community knows anyone from the cruiser community - no one from the kei car community knows anyone from the skyline community, see what I mean? Someone who is intelligent, well spoken, has ties in Gov't etc etc etc is needed. One of the first people to be contacted should be the Members Legislative Assistants (MLA) in everyones area, these are the people who lobby on behalf of individuals - a place to start atleast. They also have direct access to all of the provincial depts.

Just my thoughts, have a great xmas day.

Buddy,
if you re-read my post i did not point it at you but to the less scrupulous importers WILL be using this article to encourage increase in sales. hence the "sky is falling" sentence...

i agree we need a level headed individual to head this up, i have yet to meet anyone of the other importers that have the moral standards of the list i posted. if i had i would add their name to the list.

as for getting someone in the goverment to help us, GREAT idea, if we can find someone we can trust to work in our best interests.

we all need to get this up and running soon, if you want to set up a blog feel free. i have no issues to doing that. i can post a link to it from my site. we need to control what is posted there. if there comes a time of personal conflict we need to monitor the content. like i mentioned before the goverment loves conflict between the members. if there is then time is wasted and they win...

cheers
 
The Yahoo group RHDTLC has 62 members now and although it is fairly inactive it still has 62 confirmed members - more than any other group with the same interest - if there is one. Louis

Yes, there was high hopes for that group. It could still work I think, if a non-vendor were to really take the interest and move it forward. The lack of support behind the scenes by those who would be able to assist getting people to this group, supporting this group, or having anything to do with this group is telling though. It is a public forum though, and that could be a negative. It could be a great starting point for all RHD owners though.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/RHDTLC/

If we were to all agree on a few people to own and mod it, and those people wanted to move it to the next level, I would gladly give the gold hats...

gb
 
Hi Greg, it actually doesn't surprise me that it is inactive - but this is the time for it to become active.

I have contacted the following groups so far:

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark
http://www.canadiandriver.com/forum/index.php/topic,50129.0.html
http://www.nissanforums.com/skyline...c-trying-close-doors-imports.html#post1154791
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159070
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/no...bc-tries-close-doors-imports.html#post3092466

and the RX-7 board as well.

If anyone has other boards that involve RHD please let me know and I will contact them as well.

I think when we get a big enough group things will start to happen. Typically it is about 1-6 percent of a group who actually do all the legwork and action.
 
I have contacted my local MP about this. I live in Edmonton and there is nothing a Conservative MP likes less then Liberals trying to create legislation where none is needed.

I think any changes are going to be slow, but as a group (not just owners in BC) we do need to educate people as much as possible. I think a study would show that JDM drivers likely have fewer accidents, as anyone who would go through the process of importing is a real enthusiast. For example, no one is going to be more upset if I smash my truck then me. There is no other truck on the road I would rather drive (new or old) and I know many of you guys feel the same. When I drive my car I’m a road raging animal (typical Edmonton driver), but in my Cruiser I turn the other cheek every time, and I’m more concerned about having someone hit me then proving I had the right of way.

The best way to win an argument (even with Liberals and the NDP) is to simply have a better more logical argument. There will always be RHD service vehicles on the road (waste disposal, mail trucks) so what would a ban really accomplish?

Anyway, I would suggest all of you write to your local MP’s (if you think they would be sympathetic) and try to get them informed, just a friendly letter asking for their advice (they love that stuff).

Every MP has email and a website so they are easy to find. In the time it takes to complain on this message board about how much this is a load of garbage you could of already have done your part.

Anyway, that’s my 2 cents. Damn Liberals…always trying to spoil a good thing.

DW
 
Yeah damn Liberals. Why can't we just go forward with the Conservative's initiative?...increase the safety of RHD vehicles by requiring a plastic Jesus be affixed to the dash...problem solved. ;)
 
I'am on the http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/RHDTLC/ site but it has no forum so its hard to post & get things going , all you get is individual emails instead of being able to read /orginize in a forum .
I was going to start my own but like said here we need one site for ALL rhd owners . It would be nice for info/parts/help ect not just for the RHD ban pettion
 
There are a few things that need clarification with respect to JDM vehicles. It's not so much because they are RHD that they are an issue, but because they are right hand traffic, and were never designed to comply with Canadian Federal safety standards.

Right hand traffic vehicles are dangerous when operated in a left-hand traffic environment, there is no debating that fact. There will always be RHD vehicles in use (line painters, garbage trucks, recycling trucks, etc) so I don't believe provincial authorities will outlaw vehicles due to the fact that they are RHD. The problem is that these JDM vehicles are right hand traffic - They were never designed for a left hand traffic environment. Furthermore, the problem is further compounded by LHD JDM vehicles (BMW, MBZ, Volvo, etc) that are designed for RH traffic. These cars, despite their "conventional" driving position, are as much of a problem.

An E code headlight has a very defined beam pattern that limits the illumination towards the oncoming driver, and allows for a higher light pattern towards the ditch (for road signs, etc). It looks like a hockey stick laying on it's side, the blade facing up towards the road signs on the side of the road. The North American DOT light pattern isn't as pronouced but it still has the same effect. Therefore, use of a RH traffic vehicle in a left hand environment results in the headlighting system throwing a beam of light into the oncoming driver's eyes. I was in Vancouver a few months ago driving around in a rental and I was extremely concerned to see many (if not most) JDM vehicles operating with RH traffic JDM headlights. In fact, I met a Delica van on the Sea to Sky at night and had real trouble seeing, due to the blinding light - The "hockey stick blade" was right in my face. Of course, this is not exactly empirical data, but should be noticeable to anyone around JDM vehicles.

Now, the common argument is "change the headlights out". Sure, this works for a 60, 70 or 80 series as there is a north american equivalent, but what about a Pajero? What about a Suzuki Carry? These vehicles have no North American equivalents, so there are no equivalent lenses or lights available. I have seen some vehicles having lights from a snowplow installed in order to meet provincial requirements, but having an "aftermarket" headlighting system raises some serious concerns as they haven't been engineered and are, at best, a stop gap solution.

Headlights are just one of the MANY aspects of vehicle safety that are prescribed by the govermment, and, is only one of the significant safety-related differences that is being addressed by provincial governments. When one start digging, there are many design differences that are much more difficult to rectify.

One has to remember that ICBC is an INSURANCE company. They study claims and risk in order to determine what their liability is, to determine rates. The type of data that they need to blow the JDM thing sky high is at their fingertips. I suspect the problem at this point is that, due to BC assigned VINs, it is difficult to determine exactly what is JDM and what is not. If these were all listed by their OEM VIN, it would be easy to get a better picture of the higher incidence of accidents that surround JDM vehicles. The problem is this data isn't readily available, and I can imagine that if it was it would be public information.

I think the JDM importer industry, as a whole, needs to wake up. and smell the coffee. Federal legislation is enacted in order to protect Canadians from risk. The U.S. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards and Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards were developed thirty five years ago to reduce the risk of death, injury and damage to property resulting from automobiles. The administrations (NHTSA and Transport Canada) require that ANY vehicle falling under their authority comply with applicable safety standards, in order to ensure that all vehicles in Canada present a minimum level of safety to the general public.

From the very get-go of vehicle safety regulations, there has been an extremely difficult to dissuade public perception that automotive deaths are "a necessary evil". From the inception of the concept of federal vehicle regulations in the mid 60s, the public has accepted death tolls greatly exceeding other forms of transportation. Still, in Canada, the public accepts the equivalent death toll of a jetliner crashing every day, from its road users. The costs to society associated with bearing such deaths are huge. It used to be worse - The automotive-related deaths in Canada have decreased by 50% since the inception of vehicle safety standards, and this with a tremendous increase in road users.

I may be the devil's advocate here, but I can't see any way that a government could turn a blind eye to such a definite risk. JDM vehicles have not been engineered to meet these safety standards that have resulted in a huge decrease in deaths. They provide no assurance of the same levels of safety as other Canadian-market vehicles. One has to remember that not only you is at risk when driving. There is a huge responsibility towards other road users brought on by operating a motor vehicle. To allow these vehicles to be imported and operated benefits a small portion of the Canadian population, at the possible detriment of a large majority. This is an unneccessary risk and is unacceptable.
 
In fact, I met a Delica van on the Sea to Sky at night and had real trouble seeing, due to the blinding light - The "hockey stick blade" was right in my face.
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curious, you did stop the Delica and inspected that the lights were in fact JDM still and not swapped in poorly aligned NA equivilant, am i right?

i had the same statement quoted to me and when i asked the individual doing the complaining if he actually inspected the vehicle, he said "no"...
 
I may be the devil's advocate here, but I can't see any way that a government could turn a blind eye to such a definite risk. JDM vehicles have not been engineered to meet these safety standards that have resulted in a huge decrease in deaths. They provide no assurance of the same levels of safety as other Canadian-market vehicles. One has to remember that not only you is at risk when driving. There is a huge responsibility towards other road users brought on by operating a motor vehicle. To allow these vehicles to be imported and operated benefits a small portion of the Canadian population, at the possible detriment of a large majority. This is an unneccessary risk and is unacceptable.

what i find is very interesting, even when i was chatting with the indivdual second from the top (can't remember the name off hand) of TC, he was saying basicly the same thing, that European cars are not designed for Canadian roads and are unsafe in our enviroment...

curious, since there are 10,000% more cars on European roads at any one time than on Canadian roads how can they say our standards are better? There are many, many times more cars on Japan roads at any time than on our roads but the cars are not designed to be safe? are you serious?
<interesting, the bloke i was talking to was saying that one of the reasons European units are not safe for Canadian use is because the windshields are disgined to pop out in the event of an accident but in Canada they are designed to stay in "since Canadians refuse to wear their seat belts". hello, this is the cars fault??>

sir, out of all respect, it is not the cars that are unsafe, it is the drivers.
the unneccessary risk is not the cars, it is the uneducated drivers that are unacceptable.

ICBC needs to open their eyes and see where the problems lie and it is not with a car that is acceptable in the rest of the world, it is with poor education of Canadian automobile operators.

it really is that simple.
 
delica bulbs and carry bulbs have North american interchangeable bulbs. I can however see what he is saying about vehicles that you can't switch the headlights out - skylines etc.
 
first, Alberta does not have the same feelings as BC as shown by the relaxation of the inspection codes. BC is anal, Alberta is safety compliant.

Last I heard they were sending letters to the inspection facilities outlining the particulars to check on JDM vehicles... has this position changed?

No one in the skyline community knows anyone from the cruiser community - no one from the kei car community knows anyone from the skyline community, see what I mean? Someone who is intelligent, well spoken, has ties in Gov't etc etc etc is needed. One of the first people to be contacted should be the Members Legislative Assistants (MLA) in everyones area, these are the people who lobby on behalf of individuals - a place to start atleast. They also have direct access to all of the provincial depts.

What I have experienced in most cases are young kids driving Skylines and Fairladys and other "Fast and the Furious" cars who have no interest in the cars themselves, they just want to drive something unique to impress girls and go fast.

That's why I came here rather than beat my head against a wall trying to have an intelligent conversation on a board that caters more to the sport compact crowd. I drive a CR-X and know NOTHING about 4x4'ing really. I just know that I, like almost all of you, am an enthusiast. We are a minority (<insert your vehicle of choice here> enthusiasts) within a minority (JDM owners), which hampers our numbers even further.

What I find the most annoying is that they are still passing inspections, when they clearly are not compliant. And especially when I have made the responsible decision to modify mine to be completely legally compliant, no matter the extra cost... The irresponsibility of others is ruining it for me and the other enthusiasts who just want to be left alone to drive our 'babys'.

I have thought several times about starting a website to help fight the government, not because I want to help the importers, and help people buy quality used vehicles, but because I want to be able to enjoy my car that I have worked so hard on these past few years. I could care less if another JDM vehicle landed on our shores, but I want to protect what's already here. If it helps keep the vehicles coming then so be it. I know that may come across as selfish and arrogant, but if I said anything else, it would have been a lie.

Perhaps what we need is not a spokesperson, but a site dedicated to just that task, fighting this 'movement' as best we can. I am not very computer literate and I don't have a clue about what it takes to start a site, but I'm thinking seriously about learning in a damn hurry after reading that CBC article.

I don't think that the sky is falling either, but they aren't talking about a simple headlight issue that can be changed, or a simple rebar that can be fabbed and installed. That is a blatent attack on JDMs at the core. RHD.

People need to drive responsibly. No problem for me, I love my car more than my wife (don't tell her that! LOL)... no problem for most of you on here, you seem to be older and intelligent people, but try telling that to the folks in the sport compact crowd.... the ones with the Pulsar GTRs who go screaming past me at 140km/h + on the Deerfoot who weave in and out of traffic like they're trying to make a rug or something.

It's only a matter of time before someone in a Eunos on the way to BC dies on that single lane stretch between Banff and Golden. I hope it doesn't happen, but God help us all if it does because then they'll have their 'evidence'. The more cars that come in the greater the odds of 'when' and not 'if'.


Andy :)
 
what i find is very interesting, even when i was chatting with the indivdual second from the top (can't remember the name off hand) of TC, he was saying basicly the same thing, that European cars are not designed for Canadian roads and are unsafe in our enviroment...

curious, since there are 10,000% more cars on European roads at any one time than on Canadian roads how can they say our standards are better? There are many, many times more cars on Japan roads at any time than on our roads but the cars are not designed to be safe? are you serious?
<interesting, the bloke i was talking to was saying that one of the reasons European units are not safe for Canadian use is because the windshields are disgined to pop out in the event of an accident but in Canada they are designed to stay in "since Canadians refuse to wear their seat belts". hello, this is the cars fault??>

sir, out of all respect, it is not the cars that are unsafe, it is the drivers.
the unneccessary risk is not the cars, it is the uneducated drivers that are unacceptable.

ICBC needs to open their eyes and see where the problems lie and it is not with a car that is acceptable in the rest of the world, it is with poor education of Canadian automobile operators.

it really is that simple.

The largest difference I could see with European and Japanese driving -vs- Canadian is the amount of 'open' roads we have compared to over there.

Also, in the case of the CR-X, there are no rebars, or reinforcement beams in the doors. I have personally seen the damage that can occur when a CR-X from Japan gets T Boned. With trained assistance, I estimated the damage for that car at a local body shop. It was an accident that occured when someone was backing out of a driveway and didn't see the CR-X that was parked across the street. The door was buckled in such a way that there would have been injury to a passenger in that car. The estimator and I discussed it at great length. He admitted he hadn't seen a door buckle in quite that way before. The door was pushed in about a foot or more. I admit the truck that backed out was probably travelling at a decent pace, but what if that had've been a car travelling at 70km/h and missed a STOP sign? You're driving responsibly and he smashed into YOU, possibly killing or injuring your wife or friend... It's not a chance I'd like to take. I know I'd feel a helluva lot better knowing I have the beams in my doors... so much so, that I have bought new Canadian doors (with beams) to install to be compliant - and safe.

Why don't JDM CR-Xs have the door reinforcement? Beats me. Are people safer in CR-Xs in Japan than Canada? Maybe, maybe not. I've never driven in Japan, but I can imagine its very cramped and there's lots of traffic, which means that the rates of speed are lower. Lower rates of speed mean collisions of less severity. But, again, never been to Japan, so I don't know for sure.

Just a thought...
 
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LOL @ Fromage's "What about Pajeros?" comment regarding headlight swaps to LHD. Ever heard of a Montero? :doh: It's a bolt-in. :rolleyes:
 
Fromage:

Regarding E-code (ECE) headlights...there are RH and LH aimed E-code headlights. Saying that an E-code lens is unsuitable for Canadian roads is a half truth; its having an E-code lens that is aimed for RHD roads that is unsuitable.

Yes its true vehicles that cannot swap to either LHD E-code or SAE/DOT beam compliant headlamps should not be passing inspection under the law (ie Skylines, Seras, etc). That should be the reality, it sucks for those of us that like some of the unique vehicles, but it is a simple and easy to understand rule. If you REALLY want one of these unique vehicles you could pony up the fat cash for some custom headlamps to be made (this is being done for popular imports like the Skyline). No reason to ban the import completely.

Already passed vehicles should be grandfathered because its the governments responsibility to manage inspections and if they were not managing the proper enforcement of the rules in the past well then the vast number of imports coming in is their own creation. And in reality even the worst aimed halogen lamp from the early 90's is still less of a blinding anoyance than the best aimed LHD HID blue lighting...that type of beam blinds me everytime yet its legal.

'Safety' is mearly the mask hiding the true reasons that interested parties want imports stopped. Considering that almost everyone who hasn't driven a RHD vehicle always asks..."ins't it weird/scary/etc to drive on that side", its not very hard for the government to push forward a 'safety' agenda that most of the public will just agree with out of their own ignorance.
 
The largest difference I could see with European and Japanese driving -vs- Canadian is the amount of 'open' roads we have compared to over there.

Just a thought...

and... this is a bad thing?
 
and... this is a bad thing?

I think you misunderstood. I'm not trying to say its a bad thing...

You said: "curious, since there are 10,000% more cars on European roads at any one time than on Canadian roads how can they say our standards are better? There are many, many times more cars on Japan roads at any time than on our roads but the cars are not designed to be safe? are you serious?"

Well, in the cases of the JDM vehicles I've been exposed to, yeah, JDM cars are not equipped with identical/better safety equipment than their North American counterparts. It's been quite inferior (in my experience) as a matter of fact... Are they still designed to be safe? I would say that while being operated in the 'environment' in which they were designed to be driven, they probably are. Take them out of that 'environment' into one like ours, and not-so-much.

So having 'open roads' is not a bad thing for most of us here, but on narrow, traffic-congested roads I would imagine it is a lot harder to get the same velocities that we can over here. Safety equipment requirements therefore may be (and are) different in Europe and Japan than they are here (on most, if not all vehicles, I admittedly know little about the JDM LCs). Now, people can point to the Autobahn and the vids of 300+km/h Skylines all day long, but I would suggest those to be exceptions to the general rule.

I would also suggest that the North American society is more inclined to litigation so additional safety equipment to aid in the prevention of injury may be another factor in our 'standards' being higher than those of other regions. Not to mention the insurance companies, whose modi operandi is based on high premiums with low payouts (where possible). If they pressure the auto manufacturers (which is what ultimately killed the Muscle Car, don't forget) to make a safer vehicle they will stand a good chance of payouts being less... resulting in higher profits for them!

I mean, you said it yourself when you quoted your TC source... "that European cars are not designed for Canadian roads and are unsafe in our enviroment..."

In the case of RHDs being driven on roads designed for LHD traffic, I don't think there's been a single one of us who would argue with ICBC's position that passing or left-turns can sometimes be a harrowing experience in a JDM, even downright dangerous for someone not accustomed to it. And you're absolutely right, an alert, responsible driver shouldn't have many problems navigating those situations successfully. But accidents aren't called 'on purposes'. Even the most responsible driver can make a wrong decision, and the responsible driver argument will definately not wash with the sport compact crowd who, let's face it, will undoubtedly ruin this for us all... Terry MacDonald (if I remember his last name correctly) of Alberta Infrastructure and Transportation told me that it was kids in Edmonton heavily modding Skylines and Silvias and driving wild that attracted their attention in the first place and prompted that letter to be released about the safety inspection requirements.

The more loopholes we find, the more ways the government will invent to try and shut it down. They don't have the proof right now to decide that RHD vehicles are dangerous, but when they get the proof this will happen. It doesn't matter whether it's started by Automobile Retailers Associations, the insurance industry, or a rash of automobile accidents. Once someone is hurt it will only a matter of time. Next step will be to go after the ability to insure. If no one with a JDM can get insurance, no one can drive them...
 
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Fromage:

Regarding E-code (ECE) headlights...there are RH and LH aimed E-code headlights. Saying that an E-code lens is unsuitable for Canadian roads is a half truth; its having an E-code lens that is aimed for RHD roads that is unsuitable.

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'Safety' is mearly the mask hiding the true reasons that interested parties want imports stopped. Considering that almost everyone who hasn't driven a RHD vehicle always asks..."ins't it weird/scary/etc to drive on that side", its not very hard for the government to push forward a 'safety' agenda that most of the public will just agree with out of their own ignorance.

I re-read my post and didn't see any reference to E codes being LH or RH specific. E code is the pattern of the light emission, the "shape" and "power". It can be produced in a LH and RH, just a mirror image of one another. I apologise for any confusion arizing form my earlier test, but it remains technically correct so I won't edit.

Furthermore, CMVSS 108.1 - Alternative requirements for headlights, allows for ECE (E code) headlights, provided they meet some other basic north american requirements, such as dust ingress, etc. They must of course be LH traffic....

Conspiracy theorists abound! Might I ask what are the "true" reasons for raising the bar to 25 years for importation of vehicles?
 
In the case of RHDs being driven on roads designed for LHD traffic, I don't think there's been a single one of us who would argue with ICBC's position that passing or left-turns can sometimes be a harrowing experience in a JDM, even downright dangerous for someone not accustomed to it. And you're absolutely right, an alert, responsible driver shouldn't have many problems navigating those situations successfully. But accidents aren't called 'on purposes'. Even the most responsible driver can make a wrong decision, and the responsible driver argument will definately not wash with the sport compact crowd who, let's face it, will undoubtedly ruin this for us all... Terry MacDonald (if I remember his last name correctly) of Alberta Infrastructure and Transportation told me that it was kids in Edmonton heavily modding Skylines and Silvias and driving wild that attracted their attention in the first place and prompted that letter to be released about the safety inspection requirements.

The more loopholes we find, the more ways the government will invent to try and shut it down. They don't have the proof right now to decide that RHD vehicles are dangerous, but when they get the proof this will happen. It doesn't matter whether it's started by Automobile Retailers Associations, the insurance industry, or a rash of automobile accidents. Once someone is hurt it will only a matter of time. Next step will be to go after the ability to insure. If no one with a JDM can get insurance, no one can drive them...

I don't think that governmental agencies will have to actively pursue artificially raising insurance rates for JDM vehicles - This is probably illegal and definitely immoral. The higher incidence of claims (if any - probably not the case for some JDMs such as Cruisers) will probably result in higher insurance premiums. It's the same thing as driving a Z06 corvette - High risk, high premiums. As Skylines get wrapped around trees and kids get killed and lawsuits sprout up everywhere, the rates will go up, perhaps astronomically. If I were driving an HJ61, I wouldn't care much as the low risk these present would surely not warrant an increase in premiums.

Now, as far as vehicles already in Canada, grandfathering is the norm. No one has stepped in to prohibit me from operating my three ton, non-federal standard, non-DOT, mass-polluting Cadillac... Although someone probably should... It's likely to be the same thing for JDMs. The ones presenting an astronomical risk will be difficult to insure, same as a Corvette or an R1 motorcycle, and the others will merrily plug away, while the loophole closes and no other units are admissible.
 

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