Assistance with Eco Flow Delta 2 in LX600 with solar possible? (1 Viewer)

[CyanideRide]

So with the Eco Flow Delta 2's on sale on amazon, I'm looking at picking one up over a dual battery setup.

But before I do, I would like to know if it is possible to satisfy these wants as I want something to supplement my vehicles battery. My plan is once Dissent releases their components, is to have a high efficiency solar panel mounted in the roof rack to charge the Ecoflow as well.

Eco flow delta 2 installed in vehicle that is charged from alternator and solar (I believe this can be done with an small stand alone inverter? I've been reading up on this so my knowledge is limited, please be apply patience liberally )
The Eco Flow delta 2 supplements the vehicles battery when it is running low

The Eco flow solar panel kit is also on sale, but it's at 22.7% efficiency?!? I've seen smaller ones that are rated better than that and can support charging the Eco Flow at much lower costs? or can someone recommend one to go with this?

Is this possible?

 

[eatSleepWoof]

Doesn't the LX600 have a 110v outlet in the cargo area, like the LX570? If so, simply use that to charge the EcoFlow. Don't go down the solar-on-the-roof path just for this, that'll not be even remotely worth the effort, and will have very, very marginal contributions here in Canada. If you have to have charging when the vehicle isn't running, get a portable solar panel that'll plug into the EcoFlow and use that when you're parked.

22.7% efficiency for a solar panel is actually pretty decent, especially for a portable panel. Many are around 21%, and lower in practice. Beware of cheap panels that overpromise and will likely underdeliver.

 

[CyanideRide]

Doesn't the LX600 have a 110v outlet in the cargo area, like the LX570? If so, simply use that to charge the EcoFlow. Don't go down the solar-on-the-roof path just for this, that'll not even be remotely worth the effort, and will have very, very marginal contributions here in Canada. If you have to have charging when the vehicle isn't running, get a portable solar panel that'll plug into the EcoFlow and use that when you're parked.

22.7% efficiency for a solar panel is actually pretty decent, especially for a portable panel. Many are around 21%, and lower in practice. Beware of cheap panels that overpromise and will likely underdeliver.

Nice, thank you for that suggestion eatSleepWoof!

Yes, there is a 110 outlet in the cargo area. So that solves the power going into the EcoFlow. (I may purchase the Ecoflow portable flexible solar panel 160W because it's also on sale as well)

So can I get the Ecoflow to supply power to the vehicle when the battery is running low/supplement the vehicle battery?

 

[eatSleepWoof]

Nice, thank you for that suggestion eatSleepWoof!

Yes, there is a 110 outlet in the cargo area. So that solves the power going into the EcoFlow. (I may purchase the Ecoflow portable flexible solar panel 160W because it's also on sale as well)

So can I get the Ecoflow to supply power to the vehicle when the battery is running low/supplement the vehicle battery?

Ah, sorry, forgot to touch on that.

The answer to that is "yes, but not really." You could plug a trickle charger into the EcoFlow, and use that to trickle charge your vehicle's battery. It'll work, but it will take a while - anywhere from a few hours, to a full 24hrs.

If you're worried about ending up with a dead battery in the middle of nowhere, I wouldn't count on an EcoFlow-type product for that. Get yourself a NOCO GB70. Fantastic battery booster, and turns over my 5.7L V8 with ease many times on a single charge. Get the NOCO hard case for it, too.

 

[CyanideRide]

Thank you again for the suggestions and helping me with my research!

I do have one of those Can Tire portable battery boosters, not as nice as the noco, but gets the job done. Definitely when it comes time to replace it.

 

[CyanideRide]

Would wiring an MPPT in help with the power going to the vehicles battery? or is that just a wiring mess that I should avoid?

I was looking for the EcoFlow/Solar to top up the battery when the EcoFLow is full charge

 

[ducktapeguy]

I don’t think the AC power outlet will be able to charge the eco flow. I have the delta 2 and it pulls 1200W from the AC input, so it’ll probably overload the wiring.

I think you could just plug into the 12v outlet and it’ll keep it topped off whenever the engine is running. I don’t know if there’s a low voltage cutoff on the charging circuit to prevent you from killing the vehicle battery, but if the power outlets are only active when the engine is on it won’t be an issue.

 

[ducktapeguy]

Would wiring an MPPT in help with the power going to the vehicles battery? or is that just a wiring mess that I should avoid?

I was looking for the EcoFlow/Solar to top up the battery when the EcoFLow is full charge

You probably need something like a Renogy dual input charge controller. It can charge from an alternator and solar, and automatically switch from house battery to starting battery. Other companies probably make something similar but I’ve been using the renogy dcc30s and it’s been working well for me

 

[sdnative]

Get the NOCO hard case for it, too.

Do you mean the soft-shell case GBC014? I am not able to find a hard case. I am using the bag that came with the GB70, but a proper case would be preferred.

 

[eatSleepWoof]

Do you mean the soft-shell case GBC014? I am not able to find a hard case. I am using the bag that came with the GB70, but a proper case would be preferred.

Nope, hard case. Here it is on Amazon Canada.

// edit - that's the same product number as what you've listed, so we may have a different definition of "hard case" in this... case.

It's not a hard-case in the pelican-hard-case sense, but it's hard-case enough to not be a soft bag, have a firm & non-mallable shell, etc.

 

[sdnative]

Nope, hard case. Here it is on Amazon Canada.

// edit - that's the same product number as what you've listed, so we may have a different definition of "hard case" in this... case.

It's not a hard-case in the pelican-hard-case sense, but it's hard-case enough to not be a soft bag, have a firm & non-mallable shell, etc.

OK that's the one I am looking at. Thanks!

 

[TheIcemanCometh]

I have driven down this road and can add what I have learned on MUD and elsewhere. Regarding charing via the 110V AC outlet. If like on LC 200 it is only 100 watts and not a pure sine wave output. So it does not supply much power and not being a pure sine wave may not work. Charging via 12V DC cigarette outlet is also 100 watt max. So it too does not supply much power.

EcoFlow DC-DC charger ups the voltage and outputs up to 800 watts. EcoFlow DC-DC charger can do a reverse charge back to the main battery (something unique). Charging via solar can vary depending on the number of panels. One does not need a MPPT controller as the EcoFlow has that built-in. Most seem to use a fold up panel.

Also note that Bluetti and Goal Zero have a similar system (battery, charger, solar). Though their does not do a reverse battery charge.

There is lots to said for the convenience of these all-in-all systems - especially with the DC-DC charger. One can roll their own DC-DC charger with Victron components for less.

My only comment is do not feel rushed by any "sale" these systems seem to be on sale frequently. Check the mfg sites as the prices may well be better. And check the pricing carefully as the deals vary.

 

[CyanideRide]

This is precisely what I am looking for! Thank you TheIcemanCometh

Two way charging to and from the vehicle battery with the Delta 2 backing up the entire system as needed.

That DC-DC charger is pricey, but I've found a promotion from the distributor on amazon for $520 with is a decent price so far.

Thank you for your input! I can't wait to get this all together.