anybody use tire chains?

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Hello taking a trip to vermont to snowboard next week; has any one used tire chains for snow if so what brand i am still on factory tires so i should have no problem with them fitting (have an 06 lx thanks)
 
I have used them recently:

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Mostly any chain brand today uses the same mounting system, like Rud's Grip 4x4:
http://www.rudchain.com/snow/grip_mount.htm
 
was going to order these from rud

http://www.rudchain.com/snow/grip4.htm

but i dont like using metal b/c if they brake lots of damage i seen somewhere there was a plactic version any ideas?


Get the RUD's from Bill Burke (for all sizes smaller than 34"...otherwise http://lesschwab.com/tires/winter/chains.asp for 34" or larger compact style).

http://www.bb4wa.com/products/products.htm


I owned the RUD's when I had 285/33" tires...easy to install/remove. Practice installing them in your garage/driveway before trying to do so outside in the cold, wet snow/rain!
 
i've used both security and laclede truck chains...love em
 
thansk gonna go with the rud brand will post how they work thanks for all the info
 
r3run33 i go to vt everyweekend to ski. what mtn are you going to? i used t run factry tires on my 98 cruiser, and there is absoultly no need for chains.
 
hello sorry it took so long to reply going to a small town near killington called piedmont ? dont remeber its my brothers friend hes the one that actually recommendede the chains he did not ask what truck we had just said they dont plow around there & i figured iwth all that crazy ny snow they have to be gettin a good amount also . hey so how is it up there?
 
we got all this ice crap here i would prefer 2 feet over this stuff my truck was all glazed over
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Got close to 3 feet, i only go up on weekends, but id still say no need for chains. unless your trying to go offroad, you be fine.
 
thanks they have a older exped lifted i cant wait i dont go here in the poconos anymore (no offense to anyone) but once yu do fresh powder yu can never go back
 
how exactly DO tires chains improve your traction? Ok so maybe im a noob, but i used to ride in an ambulance, and when it snowed, we had to go awwfully slow with the chains on. The bus had Michelin LTX M/S tires too! no joke. I saw the tires and said, we dont need no stinking chains, these tires are fine in the snow. Nobody listened...they didnt even use the OnSpot automatic chains either.
 
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Chains have a max speed (20mph?). You also have practically no lateral traction...just forward/reverse, so they are not good on the wheels used for steering (like if you have front wheel drive). For some reason, out in the West like in CA, they always require chains on mountain roads. I guess that's because no one uses snow tires since it only snows in the mountains. M+S and AT tires really don't cut it for hard core snow. They are okay, but if you drive on ice, they won't help. You need either studded snow tires or a good dedicated snow tire like Blizzaks. My in-laws in Hokkaido, Japan (200 mi from Vladivostok) run snow tires on all their vehicles (sport sedan, 4wd suv, etc.) but the front loader, which is 4wd low only and has chains on big tractor tires. They've taken me on mountain roads with switchbacks in a rear wheel drive sedan from the earl 90's (i.e., no VSC/Trac) at speeds I would never have driven at given the conditions when I lived in Upstate NY...the car was always near the threshold of control going 35mph in 20mph conditions (if you had RWD w/ M+S tires only). With blizzaks on a 4wd, you can drive at amazing speeds. I guess chains would have an advantage in deep snow with 4wd going slow, like climbing over a snow drift or on sheet ice on a grade. Even on sheet ice in the flats, quality snow tires work very well.

As an alternative to chains, one could carry an extra set of wheels and install them when you hit the snow. If you have a dual pivot Kaymar/TJM bumper, you can put 2 tires there, then two inside.
 
Chains have a max speed (20mph?). You also have practically no lateral traction...just forward/reverse, so they are not good on the wheels used for steering (like if you have front wheel drive). For some reason, out in the West like in CA, they always require chains on mountain roads. I guess that's because no one uses snow tires since it only snows in the mountains. M+S and AT tires really don't cut it for hard core snow. They are okay, but if you drive on ice, they won't help. You need either studded snow tires or a good dedicated snow tire like Blizzaks. My in-laws in Hokkaido, Japan (200 mi from Vladivostok) run snow tires on all their vehicles (sport sedan, 4wd suv, etc.) but the front loader, which is 4wd low only and has chains on big tractor tires. They've taken me on mountain roads with switchbacks in a rear wheel drive sedan from the earl 90's (i.e., no VSC/Trac) at speeds I would never have driven at given the conditions when I lived in Upstate NY...the car was always near the threshold of control going 35mph in 20mph conditions (if you had RWD w/ M+S tires only). With blizzaks on a 4wd, you can drive at amazing speeds. I guess chains would have an advantage in deep snow with 4wd going slow, like climbing over a snow drift or on sheet ice on a grade. Even on sheet ice in the flats, quality snow tires work very well.

As an alternative to chains, one could carry an extra set of wheels and install them when you hit the snow. If you have a dual pivot Kaymar/TJM bumper, you can put 2 tires there, then two inside.


Diamond style chains (RUD, Laclede) do offer lateral traction compared to ladder style chains.
 
All (normal) chains give sideways traction as well, just with more slippage.
Translates to: When you would normally turn your steering wheel 90 degrees, turn it 180 instead, or something in that direction.

Another issue is: Looking behind (at the inside of) my front wheels, I wouldn't put any chains up front. Too close to suspension details. Maybe with 235 tires and 1" spacers.
 
Diamond style chains (RUD, Laclede) do offer lateral traction compared to ladder style chains.

Yep. And I also have noticed a huge difference in traction over sheet ice (or frozen snow) vs. the nude AT's. On ice, you basically load the whole truck's weight on a very small hard surface, which therefore acts like claws. Studs work on the same principle.
 

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