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Classic plates don't really do much for you anymore. I just went through the process. Your better off just getting the insurance to skip smog unless you like he look of the historic plate
Anybody know AZ's engine swap emissions standards
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inkpot
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Must of changed since I got mine. The insurance company does not care what kind of plate you buy, but AzDMV required me to hand carry the Collectors insurance policy into the office before they would give me those pretty plates that mean I don't smog my rig any more. I guess it depends on your primary goal. I wanted no more smog testing as I had hoped to put a non-smog motor into my rig. If you mainly want the classic car insurance, then you can use any plate AFAIK.
inkpot
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Oddly enough, that part of Az Law has been approved by the Feds.Id be careful about advocating breaking any laws pertaining to air quality.
In the world we live in, the Feds will pick up on you and send a drone up your ass.
Cheers
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Now that I think of it I took my proof of insurance to a third party DMV. I have found 3rd party dmv's to be the place to go when it comes to red tape deals. They do charge you a convenience fee but they don't seem to be disgruntled employees like the state people and will give you advice on how to skip a lot of the states red tape. I found them to be a lot better when you need a title issued. They did a lost atc title for me for $60 whereas the state wanted around $300 for a bonded title
Now that I think of it I took my proof of insurance to a third party DMV. I have found 3rd party dmv's to be the place to go when it comes to red tape deals. They do charge you a convenience fee but they don't seem to be disgruntled employees like the state people and will give you advice on how to skip a lot of the states red tape. I found them to be a lot better when you need a title issued. They did a lost atc title for me for $60 whereas the state wanted around $300 for a bonded title
murf
Lifer
Agreed x10!
I looked in to this a while back and was told the the engine had to be the same year or newer and had to be from a vehicle from the same weight 1/2 ton to 1/2 ton the only thing that would work in my 96 LC was a GM 6.5 diesel or a Mercedes diesel out of a car.
RockJock82
Sometimes you have to kick a little A$$
I don't understand the idealization of installing an under powered diesel in a cruiser, when the Cummins engine is far superior in longevity and power.. what is so great about the 6.5l? Besides the fact that you wouldn't need an adapter for the transmission vs a cummins. Just curious
I always felt somewhat exposed on the street with regular insurance and that my insurance co would probably stiff me with some ridiculous replacement value if something bad happened.
After fighting the smog inspectors for 10 years, this week, I added collector insurance for my 40. It didn't require a historical plate. I kept my personalized plate. Took in my insurance card and a letter from my agent to DMV and I was good. No questions asked.
No more emissions testing and no more smog equipment. No more retests. The rig runs way better. I got two years of registration instead of just one. Total cost: $80, which included $50 for two years of personalized plates.
With collectors insurance there is a mileage restriction of 1K, 3K or 6K. I went with 3K. The rig is still exposed on the dirt in the event of a catastrophe, but not really any more than the past. Dents, dings and bangs that I pickup on the trail get fixed by me anyway. If I roll it over I'm fxxxed. But I've `been there and done that.`
After fighting the smog inspectors for 10 years, this week, I added collector insurance for my 40. It didn't require a historical plate. I kept my personalized plate. Took in my insurance card and a letter from my agent to DMV and I was good. No questions asked.
No more emissions testing and no more smog equipment. No more retests. The rig runs way better. I got two years of registration instead of just one. Total cost: $80, which included $50 for two years of personalized plates.
With collectors insurance there is a mileage restriction of 1K, 3K or 6K. I went with 3K. The rig is still exposed on the dirt in the event of a catastrophe, but not really any more than the past. Dents, dings and bangs that I pickup on the trail get fixed by me anyway. If I roll it over I'm fxxxed. But I've `been there and done that.`
murf
Lifer
Exactly!
What carrier did you go with if you dont mind me asking?
What carrier did you go with if you dont mind me asking?
Michael Marino 67thAve and Tbird. He's with Metlife, but he used American Modern Home Insurance for this policy. Hartford, who I'm with for everything else, doesn't offer it. Seems funny that Hartford wouldn't, being the Old People's Insurance Company and all. It's usually just the old dudes, and of course Claudia 
, who are into the collector cars.
, who are into the collector cars.
About insurance - does anybody have an opinion or experience with classic car insurance and having a collision off road with another party?
My issue is that most classic insurance that I can find won't cover my 87 for use off road.
What happens when there is a collision off road? With the speeds of these yahoos with their side-by-sides it's just a matter of time...
Does anybody have classic car insurance with off road coverage?
Thanks for any info the group may have.
My issue is that most classic insurance that I can find won't cover my 87 for use off road.
What happens when there is a collision off road? With the speeds of these yahoos with their side-by-sides it's just a matter of time...
Does anybody have classic car insurance with off road coverage?
Thanks for any info the group may have.
murf
Lifer
I am not familiar with any collectors insurance for off road damage. just a chance I have to take or figure out.
inkpot
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The definition of " off road" varies by insurance company and by agency. the USFS calls all roads and trails "roads", so you are always ON road if your on a legitimate trail. But, that's just my opinion. Luckily, my insurance agent also holds this same opinion. John
inkpot
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On a recent show car program on TV, they interviewed one of the big dogs from Haggartys. He stated that they did NOT insure vehicles for OFF ROAD. I recon it's all a matter of 'pinion..........
richardlillard1
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Insurance aside, the vehicle frame needs to be rated to what the engine going into it was rated for and it cannot be older.
For example, a 93 FZj80 cannot have any 93 Cummins engine because they are rated for a one-ton truck frame and the Cruiser is not a one-ton truck. It can however have a 93 Chevy 6.2 diesel in it, as those were put into trucks with less than a one-ton frame. But why would you do that to yourself?
For example, a 93 FZj80 cannot have any 93 Cummins engine because they are rated for a one-ton truck frame and the Cruiser is not a one-ton truck. It can however have a 93 Chevy 6.2 diesel in it, as those were put into trucks with less than a one-ton frame. But why would you do that to yourself?
inkpot
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Actually, the 5.9 Cummins was offered in the 3/4 ton trucks also for many years. It was a 12 valve format until mid 1998, which turned into a 24 valve version. I think the last year for the 5.9 was 2006. I am not sure if it was ever offered in the 1/2 ton series.
Also, I don't know if the Chevy 6.2/6.5 series of v8 diesels was ever offered in a 1/2 ton. I have driven a stock 6.2 in a 3/4 ton 2wd pickup and it was pretty doggy. John
