Another group buy on HIR headlight bulbs - $28

[IdahoDoug]

I'm getting a set of these now that Fall is around the corner and bringing the higher night driving percentage with it. Daniel Stern is offering the newest generation Toshiba HIR bulbs for the 80 high or low beams (your choice) to us for $28 if we can buy 15 pairs. The regular price is $39 so this is a hefty discount again for the list.

If you have any product or related questions, contact him directly at dastern@torque.net rather than bulking up this thread too much. So, post if you're in and we'll all be driving safely this winter.

Thanks,

DougM

 

[RavenTai]

this is on the "to buy" list so I can't let this pass up, I'll take both highs and lows, do we work with Mr. Stern directly or ?

are the Toshiba's as well liked as the originals?

 

[IdahoDoug]

Raven,

Going from memory here, but the Toshiba's replaced the older John Deere models and if I recall correctly Cary gave them his stamp of approval - recommending that when ordering HIRs to have the vendor assure they are not selling the older ones.

I believe we'll all deal direct but will get some type of discount code to use.

DougM

 

[RavenTai]

Thanks

 

[Doc]

Do these require the Slee upgrade harness as well?

I'd be in for a set as well. All 4.

 

[ryanjl]

No harness upgrade needed, but it will help a little.

I have both the older (GE, John Deere low beams) and the newer (Toshiba, high beams) and am pleased with their performance.

Just a note, though: I got the GE John Deere low beams for $25 each, which required some removal of plastic on a notch. Not sure if they are still available, but just throwing that out there.

 

[lurker]

No harness upgrade needed, but it will help a little.

I have both the older (GE, John Deere low beams) and the newer (Toshiba, high beams) and am pleased with their performance.

Just a note, though: I got the GE John Deere low beams for $25 each, which required some removal of plastic on a notch. Not sure if they are still available, but just throwing that out there.

I just got the John Deere for low beams $25 and that was in nowhere land Lubbock,Tx; took just 2 days to get.

I have the Slee wiring and I'm totally NOT impressed by the John Deere low beams, maybe just maybe slightly better than stock. I also changed out my stock high beams for Sylvania Silver Stars and the stock ones where a little better.

I hope that the Toshibas are much, much better.

 

[Waggoner5]

What is the wattage of the Toshibas?

 

[ryanjl]

I just got the John Deere for low beams $25 and that was in nowhere land Lubbock,Tx; took just 2 days to get.

I have the Slee wiring and I'm totally NOT impressed by the John Deere low beams, maybe just maybe slightly better than stock. I also changed out my stock high beams for Sylvania Silver Stars and the stock ones where a little better.

I hope that the Toshibas are much, much better.

All I can think is that you've got something wrong. Maybe JDeere switched to regular bulbs? The difference was night and day for me. I did the headlight harness in January, and the JDeere HIR's in March. Huge, huge difference witht the HIR's.

Wattage is the standard 55watts for low beams, 65 for high beams. They get their greater light output throught the HIR (Infrared) technology. Refer to the lighting post in the FAQ for more info.

 

[mtycruiser]

I'm getting a set of these now that Fall is around the corner and bringing the higher night driving percentage with it. Daniel Stern is offering the newest generation Toshiba HIR bulbs for the 80 high or low beams (your choice) to us for $28 if we can buy 15 pairs. The regular price is $39 so this is a hefty discount again for the list.

If you have any product or related questions, contact him directly at dastern@torque.net rather than bulking up this thread too much. So, post if you're in and we'll all be driving safely this winter.

Thanks,

DougM

I'm also interested, low beams for sure, maybe high beams also.
Should we mention a discount code? or jus make reference to ih8mud
Do you know if the Toshibas require the tab trimming?

 

[cary]

It is possible that John Deere went to a non HIR 9012 bulb. I know that the 9012 bulb used in the GM trucks is not an HIR, as they just boost the wattage to get them to the minimum of the 9012 requirement (1450 lumes or something).

The Harrison/Toshiba bulbs are a different design than the older GE HIR bulbs. They supposedly are slightly brighter and the GE bulbs were already at 1700 lumens vs. the stock 1000 lumens. Bottom line is if you don't see a significant improvment with the HIR bulbs you received a non HIR or have an electrical problem.

Finally, the Harrison/Toshiba Bulbs do require that you notch the tabs to slide into the low and high beam slots. This is because DOT requires that the 9011 and 9012 not drop directly into the stock 9005 and 9006 slots.

 

[mabrodis]

I didn't see any answer to how we buy these. Do we contact the guy with that e-mail directly? Mention ih8mud / Land Cruiser Fanatics? That's $28 for either the low or high beam? (meaning you get 2 bulbs for the $28?) Curious because someone mentioned $25 PER bulb for the John Deere ones. So $56 for high and low?

Thanks,
Mark Brodis

 

[NorCalDoug]

Thanks for the legwork Doug.
I'm interested in at least 1 set of highs and lows, possibly 2 sets of each.

 

[lurker]

All I can think is that you've got something wrong. Maybe JDeere switched to regular bulbs? The difference was night and day for me. I did the headlight harness in January, and the JDeere HIR's in March. Huge, huge difference witht the HIR's.

Wattage is the standard 55watts for low beams, 65 for high beams. They get their greater light output throught the HIR (Infrared) technology. Refer to the lighting post in the FAQ for more info.

Well that's why I posted a negative report, I was looking for someone to post somethings wrong!

The Deere bulbs are pair in shape and I had to cut a bit around the notch to make it fit. Is this a sure indication that they are HIR's?

The stock low bulbs were yellow and dim in color, but these are white and dim in color. I remember someone pointing out that the voltage was very critical but I never saw exactly what voltage was a min or a nominal requirement? <- read as help me.

BTW my stock high beams can shot down an aircraft at 50,000 feet they are so bright and they provide a nice wide angle. The Sivlania Silvers might be brighter but difinitely do not provide a wide angle of view, so this might be the reason why I calaimed that they are not as bright.

So in conclusion, how do you know if you have purchaced the HIR's other than the part numbers and what voltage should we see across the battery to ensure sufficient power?

Thanks.

 

[ryanjl]

The best way is that, when looking at the bulb, you can tell there is a coating on the inside of the glass that reflects the infrared part of the light back onto the filament to super-heat it. It will have a slight reddish hue to it.

The J Deere HIR bulbs I used were cylindrical with a sphere shaped bubble in the center. A wire ran the length of the cylinder inside, and connected with a second wire that ran outside the cylinder. The wire within the cylinder contained the lighting element within the sphere. Make any sense? I had drawn a diagram of what the bulb looks like, but it was posted on the old mud server and I can't find it now.

The Toshiba bulb is a teardrop shape and really looks nothing like the GE version.

You would have to grind the nub off regardless if it's a HIR bulb or not because it's technically a 9011 (?) and not a 9005 (?) bulb and fits the socket accordingly.

 

[cary]

The stock low bulbs were yellow and dim in color, but these are white and dim in color. I remember someone pointing out that the voltage was very critical but I never saw exactly what voltage was a min or a nominal requirement? <- read as help me.

what voltage should we see across the battery to ensure sufficient power?

Thanks.

Sounds like you are not getting full voltage at the connections for the bulbs. You really want to see at least 12.5 volts, and preferably 12.9-13.3 volts at the bulbs. Note that it doesn't matter what the voltage is at the battery, but what is actually getting to the bulbs. You need to see what is going on and possibly try an upgraded wiring harness.

 

[lurker]

The best way is that, when looking at the bulb, you can tell there is a coating on the inside of the glass that reflects the infrared part of the light back onto the filament to super-heat it. It will have a slight reddish hue to it.

The J Deere HIR bulbs I used were cylindrical with a sphere shaped bubble in the center. A wire ran the length of the cylinder inside, and connected with a second wire that ran outside the cylinder. The wire within the cylinder contained the lighting element within the sphere. Make any sense? I had drawn a diagram of what the bulb looks like, but it was posted on the old mud server and I can't find it now.

The Toshiba bulb is a teardrop shape and really looks nothing like the GE version.

You would have to grind the nub off regardless if it's a HIR bulb or not because it's technically a 9011 (?) and not a 9005 (?) bulb and fits the socket accordingly.

"slight reddish hue" and "A wire ran the length of the cylinder inside, and connected with a second wire that ran outside the cylinder. The wire within the cylinder contained the lighting element within the sphere."

I have officially been horn swiggled.

Thanks for straightening me up on this issue.

 

[lurker]

Sounds like you are not getting full voltage at the connections for the bulbs. You really want to see at least 12.5 volts, and preferably 12.9-13.3 volts at the bulbs. Note that it doesn't matter what the voltage is at the battery, but what is actually getting to the bulbs. You need to see what is going on and possibly try an upgraded wiring harness.

I already have the Slee harness, so in my case the battery voltage across the terminals sould be the same as the voltage provided to the lighting system.

Correct me if I'm wrong?

 

[Jomama]

Idahodoug

I would be "IN" to buy one set of Low Beams

J.

 

[cary]

I already have the Slee harness, so in my case the battery voltage across the terminals sould be the same as the voltage provided to the lighting system.

Correct me if I'm wrong?

You will still have a voltage drop at the bulbs, only it should be less than the stock harness. Any time you run electricity through a wire, you will have a voltage drop, the only question is how much.