Alarm/Immobilizer for 24v system on HJ61

[beauh]

Wondering if anyone would know where to start to look for an alarm with immobilizer for my 24v HJ61? My wife and I are driving to Honduras in February from Toronto, ON and we'd like to keep the truck down there once we get there. (I'm sure it'll be a hot commodity, thus the immobilizer)
would any of you know where I could get a 24volt alarm w/immobilizer?
thanks

 

[Stone]

If you have a 24-12v converter, you can easily run a 12v alarm system with all the bells and whistles in your truck. You would need a bunch of 12v relays to take the signals from the brain of your alarm to switch the 24v electrical component in your vehicle. You might also need a couple of 24v relays to switch a couple of wires in your 12v alarm system with your vehicle's ignition. The main thing to remeber is to fully isolate your 12v alarm from your 24v system (ground is okay)...as I learned recently messing with Fitchik's HJ61.

GregB's and my own BJ74s both have alarm systems with starter kills in them, and they have worked flawlessly since the install.

 

[Satamax]

You mean you gonna leave it there in honduras, liek in your holliday home or something? If yes, i would rather use a mechanical system, something like a chain into the driveshaft cardans. A battery cut, and a diesel cut. The problem with an allarm run from a converter, it gonna drain the batteries quickly i would think. May be try truck alarm systems.

Bye.

Max.

 

[crushers]

i had a BJ40 that had a switch that shut all the power off so the theives wold think it had a dead battery. my Mits Jeep has one as well, works well since when you go to start it again the batteries are still strong even after months of sitting (of course that depends on the condition of the batteries...)

 

[coldtaco]

I just run a on/off switch in line on the fuel cutoff solenoid. It looks like any other switch and I use it to kill the engine. Just have to remember to turn it back on when I want to start the truck again

 

[beauh]

thanks for all the suggestions guys. Still not sure what I'm gonna do yet. (still have some time to think about it.) I read on another post a guy welded a half chain link to the shifter and runs a chain from there down through the seat bracket, around the clutch pedal and back to the shifter where he puts a lock throught it. That sounds simple enough. I may do that as well as your idea coldtaco.
thanks guys.

 

[crushers]

not really, a set of chain cutters will make short work of the chain...
cheers

 

[Stone]

not really, a set of chain cutters will make short work of the chain...
cheers

Exactly...not only won't it really deter the determined thief, but it looks ugly to boot. When I was living in New York City, my relatives had this nice shifter lock that they were using. It was bolted/welded to the tranny hump and used a small hardened steel "U" lock to fix the shifter into one position.

Bottom line is to try and make your vehicle as hard to steal as possible, so that maybe the thief will forego your in search of easier targets. But if a professional thief really really wants your vehicle, there's very little that you can do to stop him.

Good luck.

 

[crushers]

Exactly...not only won't it really deter the determined thief, but it looks ugly to boot. When I was living in New York City, my relatives had this nice shifter lock that they were using. It was bolted/welded to the tranny hump and used a small hardened steel "U" lock to fix the shifter into one position.

Bottom line is to try and make your vehicle as hard to steal as possible, so that maybe the thief will forego your in search of easier targets. But if a professional thief really really wants your vehicle, there's very little that you can do to stop him.

Good luck.

yep, they can always back up with a tow truck and haul it to a place where they have all the time in the world to work on it...

 

[beauh]

where we're going, I'll only use this lock at night. Our home in honduras is completely fenced plus our Doberman patroling the perimeter. I don't think any tow truck will coming in there!

 

[Stone]

where we're going, I'll only use this lock at night. Our home in honduras is completely fenced plus our Doberman patroling the perimeter. I don't think any tow truck will coming in there!

I completely understand that type of setup as our home in the Philippines was setup pretty much the same way. Most of my relatives are still living back there, and they have armed security guards in the compound at all times.

The best anti-theft system devised so far...to have a security guard with a 12 gauge sitting in your truck while you're away.

 

[Technikev]

All this talk of homes in fenced compounds with security guards makes me feel pretty good about living in Canada. Although with all the news coverage Toronto is getting re: gunplay and shootings, it makes one wonder...

-Kevin

 

[Greg_B]

Wondering if anyone would know where to start to look for an alarm with immobilizer for my 24v HJ61? My wife and I are driving to Honduras in February from Toronto, ON and we'd like to keep the truck down there once we get there. (I'm sure it'll be a hot commodity, thus the immobilizer)
would any of you know where I could get a 24volt alarm w/immobilizer?
thanks

As Stone mentined, we both have a 24v-12v converter, and 12v alarm, and have had no issues. The Solar Converter only shows .017ma drawn on the 24V side, so the alarm would use way more electrical energy if you were to let it sit for a long time. My sick BJ60 (12V) can not sit with the alarm on for more then a few weeks without a recharge.

I recall some conversations on the DTLC and LCML eons ago which talked about different physical locking systems out there to protect a vehicle in high theft areas. I do not recall the name of the systems, however a check of the archives at http://www.birfield.com might yield some help.

If you are looking at security for when daily daily driving/nighttime parking, then the standard alarm, kill, footpedal club and steering wheel club would be a good start. For long term storage no alarm on, and the physical shifter/pedal lockouts with steering wheel club would be best imo. As mentioned, nothing will stop a towtruck, but then you have the compund and dog....

hth's

gb

 

[beauh]

thanks again guys for your input. I've got the solar converter, but running in equalize mode. Would I have to change it to convert mode to run the alarm? And also, what alarm would you recommend? (it must have some sort of immobilizer or kill)

 

[Stone]

Hi Beauh:

Do a search on Solar Converter in this forum, and you'll find plenty of discussion on this. What Greg and I have found is that if you want to leave the truck sitting for a long period of time, you should have it in strict convert mode to avoid drawing down both batteries. But for daily driving, your batteries are definitely going to be happiest in equalize mode.

This thread: Solar COnverter Final Setup discusses what I finally did with my Solar Converter. I put in a heavy duty marine switch to be able to switch my Solar Converter back and forth from step-down convertion to equalize. Unfortunately, I've already taken down the pics from my website. Greg is also planning on doing the same thing, but with a relay (as per Technikev's idea) hooked up to his ignition so that when his ignition is on, the Converter is in equalize mode, and when he shuts off his ignition it automatically goes into convert mode. He'll probably do a post about it soon.

 

[greasypants]

You can stop a tow truck if you put the truck up on blocks and lock the wheels in the house .It's also free .

 

[Greg_B]

Hi Beauh:This thread: Solar COnverter Final Setup discusses what I finally did with my Solar Converter. I put in a heavy duty marine switch to be able to switch my Solar Converter back and forth from step-down convertion to equalize. Unfortunately, I've already taken down the pics from my website. Greg is also planning on doing the same thing, but with a relay hooked up to his ignition so that when his ignition is on, the Converter is in equalize mode, and when he shuts off his ignition it automatically goes into convert mode. He'll probably do a post about it soon.

Yes, I just installed the relay yesterday afternoon. Used the underhood power box, and trip the relay with the ig connection. I did not run the LED's into the dash yet. Will be running it this way for the winter and see what happens.

hth's

gb