Aftermarket wheel offset help
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You can see in the above pic I just installed a Tundra front suspension lift. The main reason in doing this was to level out my drive shaft angles. This kit uses front and rear cross member drop brackets which lowers the front CV axle. Also uses taller spindles. You can see my drive shafts are pretty much level. This will allow for more lift in the future...thinking 37's next go around!
I believe Slee, but I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Anyone have a diagram or video which shows this?
I can see if you increase the spring length the lift would actually move the tires slightly inward (similar to a +65 or +70 offset) so that kinda makes sense. And I can see how the overall travel "arc" the wheels follow when compressing would be similar. But I'd also think at full compression you would still have more clearance than at full compression of a stock suspension, simply because the springs are longer.
If what Christo is saying is true, then why is Kreiten able to run 285/70R18 on 18x9 +20 offset wheels with his lift but 275/70R18 on stock 18x8 +60 offset wheels barely clears?
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Your cruiser is amazing bro! I plan on putting a lift on mine and I love the idea of putting the tundra lift. Do you know exactly what tundra parts will be needed to be put on the lc200? Everyone says lower control arms but I'm told its more than that. Please let me know as I want to go 35s eventually.
Yea Ill be glad to share all the info with you. I actually talked to the guys at Trix offroad in the Phillipines (yes I'm in Atlanta, Ga). Lower control arms aren't gonna do you any good without the crossmembers. The problem is, you can only go so high on your lift before your cv axles become to steep. Ask me how I know...I had one go out in Ouray, Co and as noted above thats a long way from home!! ;,,,( Yes I know you can get a diff drop kit. My LC had one on it but again your still limited to the amount of lift you can do. When my second cv axle started to fail I knew something had to give. As you can tell in the photo my axles are level so I can easily adjust 2-3 more inches up on my coil overs or add strut spacers to gain several more inches. I may be wrong but I think as these 200 series rigs start to get older and they become more "offroad" rigs guys will want larger tires. I think this is the best way to achieve anything larger than a 35" tire. PM me and shoot me your phone number. Im not on here much but Id be glad to share the details and specs of my lift.
You got just about everything except the assumption that longer springs limit compression travel. Though longer, they are not the component that limits travel (though they certainly resist travel). That would be the bump stops. Some people have, especially on other platforms, extended the bump stops to limit travel and reduce rub on the fenders if that were the issue.
That said, lifting can minimize rubbing at nominal ride height over smooth surfaces. But once the suspension starts cycling over rough pavement, the same trouble spots will show.
I can't speak for Kreiten's setup, but different things get rubbed when adjusting different parameters. Offset is certainly a key parameter to adjust for clearance, especially the a-arms and KDSS. At some point, too much offset will cause rubbing too, of the liners and mud flaps.
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Markuson
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It's not that lifting has no effect. It's just that typical tire-size rubbing happens when turning...not from compression. When turning, the rubbing is on the fender liner, the upper control arms, and other areas that remain an obstruction whether or not the truck is lifted or not. A lift might give more up-travel if your suspension can handle it, but it doesn't help with rub from turning.
Thanks to both @Markuson and @gaijin for their posts & information. The XD128 wheel also comes in an 18 mm offset, so armed with my new information, I'm heading back to 4WheelParts to discuss that possibility. As I mentioned, we had planned on the 295/70/17 R/T's, but the 285 R/T's are not out of the question. Seems like most here run 285's and those seem to fill the wheel wells nicely on lifted LC's.
what wheel width is the 18mm offset?
8.5 I believe.
should be good to go, I run a 9 inch wheel with 20mm offset with 285 tires and it tucks good, it's tight but it tucks with no rub!
Markuson
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Man that is one stuffed wheel well...
Any issues if you load down the rear evenly? In that pic I assume the right rear wheel is fully extended. Wondering what the clearance was if for instance you had a trailer with 650# tongue weight on the rear? Would it tuck or would both wheels rub the body on a bounce?
good question, not sure so far as hauling a trailer is concerned. We have had the rig loaded with 8 people and have caught air with that weight inside with no rubbing! I see what you are saying though, at full tuck so long as it's just one side it brings it in at an angle, which helps it not hit the fender. I think you might be onto something, with a super heavy trailer this might not be the best setup! I can tell you we have wheeled the S outta this thing at it has not rubbed on the fenders yet!
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I’m looking at different wheel options. Anyone know what tire size I would need on a stock 2020 LX with 18” wheels with a 25 offset? I do not want to modify anything on the vehicle, no trimming etc.
