I have a 2022 GX460, and just purchased after market recovery points from Bbg4x4 for the front. However I’ve seen some IG posts with people hooking up shackles to the stock tow/strap points. Is that sufficient enough or do I need aftermarket recovery points bolted into the chassis? I’m guessing those stock points are not good enough for snatching? Thanks for the help!
Aftermarket Front Recovery Points, are they needed?
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For heavy off road recovery its definitely necessary but for most off road in US it might not be needed. Also using kinetic rope reduce the shock load quite a bit. What is your plan for use? Factory tie down are OK for light recovery use.
Some debate on those stock points in this thread
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Front recovery points on GX460 (2010-2013)
On my 2011 GX460, Just behind the front bumper air dams (easily removed with twist fasteners), I see what looks like factory tie down or tow points. Their location however looks like any strap or bridle attached would hit the lower bumper when pulled tight. Has anyone used these with a strap...
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Read your owner's manual! On my 2018 it states in the owner's manual that you can use them with an elastic recovery strap. AKA a kinetic recovery strap or rope.
That being stated if you intend to drive at the limits aftermarket recovery points are a wise investment. Also look at a receiver hitch recovery point like this Factor 55 hitchlink.
HitchLink 2.0 | Factor 55 - https://factor55.com/product/hitchlink/
When conducting a kinetic recovery it is best practice to connect a bridle to split the forces over two recovery points (if equipped), see below example from Safe Xtract.
www.safe-xtract.com
www.asroffroad.com
Last but not least find a certified trainer in your area here and learn before you spend any more money. It will be a prudent investment!
That being stated if you intend to drive at the limits aftermarket recovery points are a wise investment. Also look at a receiver hitch recovery point like this Factor 55 hitchlink.
HitchLink 2.0 | Factor 55 - https://factor55.com/product/hitchlink/
When conducting a kinetic recovery it is best practice to connect a bridle to split the forces over two recovery points (if equipped), see below example from Safe Xtract.
Safe-Xtract ® | Defining Vehicle Recovery Standards
Safe-Xtract ® is an industry leader in Vehicle Recovery education and innovation, based in New Mexico, USA. Their vehicle experience ranges broadly from two wheels up to regular size SUVs and pick-ups, to larger military and civilian vehicles. They have extensive expertise in the engineering and...
www.safe-xtract.com
Synthetic Winch Ropes, Kinetic Recovery Straps & 4x4 Accessories | ASR Offroad
ASR Offroad offers a variety of 4x4 accessories including synthetic winch ropes, tow straps, kinetic vehicle recovery straps and snatch blocks for 4x4’s, ATV’s and UTV’s.
www.asroffroad.com
Last but not least find a certified trainer in your area here and learn before you spend any more money. It will be a prudent investment!
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Thanks for tips and advice. I’ve read it before. Nothing in detail as your manual. Here’s a snip.
Read your owner's manual! On my 2018 it states in the owner's manual that you can use them with an elastic recovery strap. AKA a kinetic recovery strap or rope.
That being stated if you intend to drive at the limits aftermarket recovery points are a wise investment. Also look at a receiver hitch recovery point like this Factor 55 hitchlink.
HitchLink 2.0 | Factor 55 - https://factor55.com/product/hitchlink/
When conducting a kinetic recovery it is best practice to connect a bridle to split the forces over two recovery points (if equipped), see below example from Safe Xtract.
Safe-Xtract ® | Defining Vehicle Recovery Standards
Safe-Xtract ® is an industry leader in Vehicle Recovery education and innovation, based in New Mexico, USA. Their vehicle experience ranges broadly from two wheels up to regular size SUVs and pick-ups, to larger military and civilian vehicles. They have extensive expertise in the engineering and...
Synthetic Winch Ropes, Kinetic Recovery Straps & 4x4 Accessories | ASR Offroad
ASR Offroad offers a variety of 4x4 accessories including synthetic winch ropes, tow straps, kinetic vehicle recovery straps and snatch blocks for 4x4’s, ATV’s and UTV’s.
Last but not least find a certified trainer in your area here and learn before you spend any more money. It will be a prudent
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Richard
One other point that I don't think was brought up is that I wouldn't count on the factory recovery points working on any pulls/recoveries that are not linear.
What I mean is if you're stuck in a way where someone has to pull you at a right angle, which if you watch any of Matt's Recovery on YouTube, happens quite often, you will probably be either breaking or bending something. Especially if you and whoever it is that's trying to pull you have no experience on how to do it.
If you do like to wander out in the unknown, for the low cost, I'd just purchase some and while you're at it, if you have a hitch, get a D ring receiver for it.
Don't ever pull from a receiver ball hitch.
What I mean is if you're stuck in a way where someone has to pull you at a right angle, which if you watch any of Matt's Recovery on YouTube, happens quite often, you will probably be either breaking or bending something. Especially if you and whoever it is that's trying to pull you have no experience on how to do it.
If you do like to wander out in the unknown, for the low cost, I'd just purchase some and while you're at it, if you have a hitch, get a D ring receiver for it.
Don't ever pull from a receiver ball hitch.
I personally don't seek out places that put my rigs in a position where they are going to need recovery. It's all about the driving skills and using common sense. With a jack and traction boards you will be fine almost 100% of the time.
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I routinely go places and try to get stuck. What's the point of all that stuff if you don't use it?
You won't always be in a spot to set up a kinetic recovery and those aftermarket points are cheap. TBH I would invest in a winch and a hybrid bumper that has them built in but we each have our own budgets. $200 vs $2000? One off-road tow truck visit will easily be $2k.
You won't always be in a spot to set up a kinetic recovery and those aftermarket points are cheap. TBH I would invest in a winch and a hybrid bumper that has them built in but we each have our own budgets. $200 vs $2000? One off-road tow truck visit will easily be $2k.
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Richard
Wonder how much Matt's Recovery (on YouTube) costs for all those recoveries? He usually has at least 4 people with him and often a second vehicle.
Hope he's not charging the costumer the hourly billing for the camera people he brings along!
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Richard
Ha-ha! My WIFE won't let me seek out places that puts my rig in a position where I'll be needing recovery!
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People make so much money on Youtube I bet he's not charging much more than the fuel cost just to get the content up.Wonder how much Matt's Recovery (on YouTube) costs for all those recoveries? He usually has at least 4 people with him and often a second vehicle.
Hope he's not charging the costumer the hourly billing for the camera people he brings along!
Recovery points are a must, IMO. They aren't just for you but can also be used for pulling out someone else. You also never know when you'll make a mistake off-road and need to be recovered. Sometimes streams or mudholes look a lot shallower than they actually are. My SRQ Fabrication recovery points were all of $120 shipped. It's easy to do a lot more than $120 in damage to a GX by recovering from the tie-down points and bending something in the core support. Or having the tie-down rip out of the core support and become a projectile.
^This. Like 3 days after I bought my GX a friend of mine got stuck in a mud pit. I didn't have a hitch receiver at the time and the location of the factory front hooks seemed like it would pull the kinetic rope up into the bumper, even if I had full confidence those hooks were up the task.
It feels pretty dumb to buy a very capable truck then realize you have no means of using one of those primary capabilities.
If a person gets themselves in a situation a little common sense can be used. Instead of relying on aftermarket recovery points there are many other ways to get a vehicle out of a situation. The GX is a body on frame construction so there are loads of factory pull points both front and rear.
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Richard
I absolutely agree, being a body on frame does allow to be yanked on just about anyplace you can attach to the frame itself, but...
Unfortunately if you've kept your GX stock, (read: not even trimmed either the front or rear bumpers) then there's a very good change you'll rip something off your rig.
I completely understand what Banandalorian is saying about using the factory recovery points.
Really, on a box-stock GX, the factory recovery points are best as tie-downs on a flatbed (piggy back) tow truck, unless you can pull/be pulled linear by something that is lower than the lower lip of the bumpers.
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Wow! This is a lot of debate over something so simple. These are ~$150 or less and better to have and not need them than the other way around. As a matter of fact, I have a set of Treaty Oak OffRoad recovery points that are brand new (PO painted them bright green for some reason). $100 to anyone who wants them (picked up around the NOLA area or I will ship them on your dime). I can't use them because of how the Ironman bumper mounts. If I could mount them they would already be on the truck.
^OP also already installed the recovery points so the debate is settled lol
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Richard
It's always fun to to kick the dead horse a while longer...
Many ways to recover a vehicle for sure. I would love to see the "loads of factory pull points" you are referring to? Pics?
