about to buy a 2010 LC.. need help!! (1 Viewer)

[jav2222]

Hey guys.. just found this forum last night when I was searching LC reviews. I am about to buy a brand new 2010 LC in magnetic grey and dark grey interior. MSRP is $75,356. I am getting the car for $68,000 ... is this a good deal?

Also I am deciding between this car and a pre-owned range rover HSE. Please let me know your opinion and comments.

Thanks!

 

[uzj100]

Does it have the nav and the upgrade package with heated rear seats and a cool box? If yes, then $68k is a good price. Invoice is $67.5k according to Edmunds. Without the upgrade package the price would be high.

RR HSE is a completely different vehicle. Buy the best warranty you can with the RR HSE.

 

[jav2222]

Does it have the nav and the upgrade package with heated rear seats and a cool box? If yes, then $68k is a good price. Invoice is $67.5k according to Edmunds. Without the upgrade package the price would be high.

RR HSE is a completely different vehicle. Buy the best warranty you can with the RR HSE.

yes it has the upgrade package. and I checked and it has nav, heated rear seats and cool box.

 

[jav2222]

need more opinions... please.

 

[2000UZJ]

Obviously you will get the "landcruiser is the best" on this forum, on the RR forum it will be "range rover is the best".


It's what you want and will enjoy, if you want a RR, go for it. Just be prepared for costly breakdowns and wanting to sell it but can't get what you want for it later on down the road. Look at the reliability ratings for both. I garuntee you cannot find one review that says the RR is more reliable.


On the road, sure, the rover might be more fun in the corners and faster on the road. Turn more heads and all that. But in the END, the cruiser will get you back home safely and on time. and that is what I want in a vehicle.

 

[pdxlc200]

I've owned both and it's pretty simple.

The Rover is flashier, gets a couple more looks from the ladies, is always in the shop and takes a devastating hit to depreciation.

The Cruiser is subtle luxury, gets looks from people who are in the know, can be driven 300k, has more upgrade options and retains its value.

Soo... it really boils down to your personality. Which one are you? = D

 

[atlas78]

Right, or get a Lexus to show off

 

[sptsdn]

Re: LC vs RR, I too looked at both. Love the looks and the interior of the RR but was completely turned off by the reliability of it. I bought for the long-haul and wanted something that I could rely on well past the warranty period. If you plan on only keeping the vehicle for a short time (through the warranty period or a year after or so) go get what ever you like better. Just make sure that the RR has a loaner program so you aren't at the mercy of a dealer shuttle service; you just want to be able to drop off your car and drive off in another vehicle until yours is ready. Plus the RR only seats five - I wanted the extra capacity (seating for 8) just in case.

Re: price. $68k is pretty good for one with UP. Check out Ebay Motors and "build your own" on the site to see if there is a local dealer that has one for less. I just checked and there is a local dealer here that is selling them for $67,350. At the very least you could go back to the dealer that gave you the $68k quote and see of they will match or come close to the Ebay price (even though you're already pretty close in price). Or maybe you could talk them into a free set of all-weather mats, remote-start, an extra key, or something like that.

Of course, make sure you come back and tell us what you decided!

 

[tempestv8]

If you need 7 seats, then the Range Rover is out of the picture as the marque is targeting a "premiumness" which doesn't fit well with a vehicle that is capable of carrying more than 4 or 5 passengers comfortably.

I am a Land Rover fan but I bought a Landcruiser 200 Series simply because it came with a 4.5 litre twin turbo V8 diesel. Unfortunately for the North American market, the diesel motor isn't an option but you guys do get a wonderful 5.7 litre petrol V8, which I understand turns the LC200 into one fairly quick truck.

When I was in the states a few weeks ago, I only managed to see one LC200. And heaps of Sequoias. When I checked the prices on Toyota's website, I can see why - the Sequoia is larger yet considerably cheaper and can also be had with the 5.7 V8 gasoline motor. So why would anyone buy an LC200 which is smaller yet dearer?

If it is for exclusivity, I'd imagine that for that category of luxury SUV purchaser in the USA, it isn't much more to get into an Lexus LX570, but that's just my thoughts....

If the LC200 in the USA was available with the 4.5 litre diesel V8, then I know what I'll be buying, and it won't be the Lexus!

 

[sptsdn]

When I was in the states a few weeks ago, I only managed to see one LC200. And heaps of Sequoias. When I checked the prices on Toyota's website, I can see why - the Sequoia is larger yet considerably cheaper and can also be had with the 5.7 V8 gasoline motor. So why would anyone buy an LC200 which is smaller yet dearer?

If it is for exclusivity, I'd imagine that for that category of luxury SUV purchaser in the USA, it isn't much more to get into an Lexus LX570, but that's just my thoughts....

Too bad you didn't sit in a Sequoia while you were here. Had you, you would have understood right away why the LC is a better choice! When I was shopping for my LC I briefly looked at the Sequoia. For me, there were two glaring problems: 1) size - the Sequoia is enormous. I can barely fit my LC in the garage and that's only if I remove the roof rails. The Sequoia wouldn't fit period. Plus, it's just a pain to drive something that big. And 2) fit and finish in the Sequoia is embarrassing. Personally, I prefer quality over quantity so the LC is a much better choice for me.

Side note: I'm not sure if anyone else experienced this when shopping but I had to practically beg them to show me an LC. Most of the sales people told me I didn't want the LC and insisted I wanted the Sequoia. I didn't. It was as if they didn't want to sell an LC (maybe they don't get as much commission on the LC).

As far as the Lexus version is concerned, I just hate the looks of it. Too flashy and the interior is a bit busy (my wife hated the suspension controls). I really prefer the subtly of the LC - most people think it's a Highlander and I could care less - I don't need the "look at me" factor.

 

[tempestv8]

You sound like a man with good taste!

I did have someone ask me if I was driving a Highlander (actually called a Toyota "Kluger" in Australia).

And I didn't realise that the Sequoia wasn't of the same build quality as the LC200 - I had assumed it was just larger but cheaper because it was built locally and wasn't fully imported from Japan.

LC200s are everywhere in Australia - maybe it's got something to do with a lack of other makes available, or because it's just a good thing and that it is well suited for Australia.

We've seen the reintroduction of Jeep and now Dodge has made an appearance on the market with Nitro, but not Durango. But the Toyotas seem to have earned a long honed trust from the public so lots of people still pick Toyota over other makes, and the LC200 is the crowd favourite for towing caravans, so particularly popular with the grey nomads.

 

[JBHorne]

So why would anyone buy an LC200 which is smaller yet dearer?

LOL, for every reason imaginable. The LC200 has a much beefier driveline that can actually go off road where as the Sequoia is an onroad monster.

 

[kcdude]

I paid invoice on my 09 fully loaded, midwest location, dealer had one on the lot and mine had just come off the truck.

 

[dnh1]

"Invoice" is relative. There are two invoices. One they show to you as a buyer and one that is their actual invoice. A dealer can sell you the car "below invoice" and make money b/c the dealer gets cash back for things such as the truck sitting in port and other strange items I cannot recall. Once dealer was dumb enough to show me their actual invoice with these items. It was about $1900 below the other dealers showed. So, invoice is still a good profit to the dealer.

 

[arbetrader]

Well, some of those prices include "lot-pac" too... At any rate... I actually prefer the look of the Range Rover. I was able to drive one for about 80km (50 miles) of highway stretch and really enjoyed it!

It was brand new. As I worked in the car business, I remember them being VERY hard on depreciation... Like $40-$50K depreciation in the first two years here in Canada. That's brutal!

Anyway, if money's no object, and you're going to sell it before warranty ends, get the RR! If you're going to keep it, buy as long of an extended warranty as you can get. You WILL use it.

 

[dolphstar73]

What state are you in? At least you have a dealer with a Land Cruiser and he's willing to quote you a price! I've just made the last lease installment on my 2005 LC and was checking on getting a new one. I live in DFW area Texas and, so far, everyone (including the dealer where I got my current LC) looks at me like I'm some sort of zombie for even mentioning I would like to see a new one. I did get to glimpse one (supposedly ordered and pre-sold) which happened to be dark gray and had a 75K list. I could not get any idea on a price it was going to sell for of course. They tried to push me into a Sequoia (no thanks, see the other comments..they are all true). A co-worker of mine has a 2008 Range Rover and it is a beauty but has required frequent shop visits whereas I have only needed regular maintenance. Also have a neighbor with a LR3 which also seems to need a lot of pricey repairs. But both love the attention they get and I've seen first hand (during trips to lunch) that people take notice of them. There are posts here from a year ago where people claimed LC200 prices of 57-59K but it seems those days are over.