A 200 and some other rigs...

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Thanks! I've got my eye on a Trail model; that's why I'm interested.

That was a Limited with XREAS. I believe XREAS may reduce articulation somewhat, compared to a Trail with KDSS. The Trail has different bumpers, so it has slightly better approach and departure angles.

The nice thing about the runner is it was thin, came in handy a time or three! The trail model comes with crawl and KDSS, right?

KDSS is optional on the Trail Edition. The Trail Edition has a locking rear diff and a part-time 4WD system -- no center diff on the SR5 or Trail Edition. Only the Limited now has the Torsen center diff, unfortunately.
 
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Is that mud or a nice squiggly pinstripe on your passenger rear quarter panel?
 
I have a '14 trail premium as well and it is awesome. It is much more capable than the limited or sr5. I've taken it off road numerous times and it will go basically anywhere. 200 feels much more solid on the trail though.
 
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I picked up one today as well. It's body art
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Nice photos Kreiten - thanks for sharing!
 
The Tundra was just to big for some of the tight spots! He couldn't make this turn...
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How would you rank the vehicles that were there in terms of how easily they handled the trail you were on (exactly as they were configured, with the exact trail you were on).

My guess would have been (from made it look easy, to more challenged):

1) Wrangler
2) Tacoma
3) LC200
4) 4Runner
5) Tundra

(not trying to debate merits of vehicles in stock form, or what they could be with XXX mod, but curious about real-life experience in this specific case.)
 
That 4 runner is impressive all stock

I saw the new TRD pro 4 runner in white the other day , looked great

The 2016 tacomas are amazing too, especially since I can get a manual transmission on 4wd
 
That 4 runner is impressive all stock

I saw the new TRD pro 4 runner in white the other day , looked great

The 2016 tacomas are amazing too, especially since I can get a manual transmission on 4wd

Ya... I looked closely at the TRD Pro 4-Runner when I knew my 100 needed to go... But once you go Land Cruiser...nothing will ever quite compare to it in my head....

A lot of the "TRD Pro-ness" of it had to do with the front bumper...which I knew I'd want to replace anyway. The main benefit to the TRD pro is the suspension it comes with. But in the end, it's still a fairly under-powered V-6 engine in need of an update...or V8.



At least Toyota has kept the 4-Runner a truck-based SUV...unlike what a sad thing the Pathfinder has become...

The Pathfinder used to be a legitimate off roader back a few years...but now, it is literally hard to tell if it's a minivan. Sad. Here's the Pathfinder... Ugh!

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I think that's why 4-Runner sales have stayed so strong. What else is there that's still a TRUCK any more?

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hey Kreiten do you know what type of rims are on that tundra?
I don't, but I can find out, he said they had been drilled to fit multiple different lug patterns, think he had 8 total holes in the rims, seemed weird
 
How would you rank the vehicles that were there in terms of how easily they handled the trail you were on (exactly as they were configured, with the exact trail you were on).

My guess would have been (from made it look easy, to more challenged):

1) Wrangler
2) Tacoma
3) LC200
4) 4Runner
5) Tundra

(not trying to debate merits of vehicles in stock form, or what they could be with XXX mod, but curious about real-life experience in this specific case.)
tough to say as different vehicles shined at different moments, but no question your ranking is very close to what I would say overall. The jeep had lockers and the advantage of massive articulation. I would actually say the 200 can hold with the jeep as far as rear articulation but not on the front. The Jeeps wheelbase is slightly longer than the 200, but only a couple inches, was not a factor due to lift and 35's. The front and rear lockers on the Jeep came in handy but at times climbing over super wet tree roots the "crawl control" almost appeared to work better(IMO). So I guess overall the win would go to the Jeep(although it did not go anywhere that I could not). Second place is a close tie I would say, with "crawl control and KDSS the advantage for articulation goes to the 200 forsure. But the Tacoma with it's 6 inch lift and 35's simply had more clearance at the frame and approach and departure angles. Even though it had a longer wheel base it did really well. I think if push came to shove the 200 would top the Tacoma in most situations due to wheelbase, traction and articulation. The Tundra and 4Runner both struggled, and for different reasons. The Tundra had traction problems and size problems, it was just simply to damn big. The 4Runner had the benefit of a good driver and someone who would not take no for an answer:) Both had noticeable traction issues when tires came off the ground, rear locker, crawl control etc would be nice on both! I would give 4th place to the 4Runner only because it's smaller and more nimble. The trail we ran with this mix of rigs really showed you how much "wheelbase", "articulation" and "traction" affect everything. I will be taking the 200 out with the Jeep again in the coming weeks, in my head(I drank a lot of coolaid:)) I truly believe if can go anywhere the 4 door jeep can go, time will tell... to be continued....
 
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Why did the 4Runner owner get a sr5 if going to mod and do trails like that? The trail would solve his issues especially with lift and tires. Just my thought. I think my trail could do anything my 200 could do. If they put the V8 back in the 4Runner it would be awesome!
 
Why did the 4Runner owner get a sr5 if going to mod and do trails like that? The trail would solve his issues especially with lift and tires. Just my thought. I think my trail could do anything my 200 could do. If they put the V8 back in the 4Runner it would be awesome!
When he bought it two years ago I don't think he was thinking about down the road, was thinking about the price difference... Proly wishing he had the trail addition now... A lift, rear locker and new tires and I think it will be pretty capable! The trail 4Runners are awesome!
 
I want a jeep now
 
I want a jeep now
no way:) 200 can do pretty much everything a jeep can do and doesn't bust and is way more comfy! The Jeep broke the very next day after this trip, not kidding:)
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