60 series wheel tyre options (1 Viewer)

[ken cheers]

searching for wider wheel options for road comfort and to lessen the harsh road feel of my 85 60 series wagon H1 diesel. Its extremely good condition.

Currently it has worn since new standard sized chrome wheels. I used to run about 32 psi. this led to scrubbing of front passenger (LHS for aussies). I understand this is common and requires a expensive camber kit to be fitted? specialists told me to run 38 to 40 psi and this stopped the scrubbing on this wheel.
On these 7 inch wheels ride is a little hard on the body and I am not off-roading it all. simply a regular driver and carries 6 people when i need and tows well. 251,000 km.

would going wider allow me to run lower pressure? would that then exacerbate the left front wheel scrubbing more? logic tells me it will.

What choices of wheels would suit? Im happy to buy 2nd hand original from other models rather than go out buying all new stuff. They are 6 stud. Width issues could be fouling suspension and steering components.
landcruiser 100, 200 series wheels fit? Looking for great suggestions, thanks

 

[UltraFJ40]

The 100 and 200 run 5 on 150 MM so that's not going to work. I believe that the 60s run 6 on 139.7

I would look at suspension (shock) options first.

 

[ken cheers]

The 100 and 200 run 5 on 150 MM so that's not going to work. I believe that the 60s run 6 on 139.7

I would look at suspension (shock) options first.

thank you for your suggestions. The wagon, i should of explained has "old man emu" springs and shocks from new or sometime well before i bought it but had never been off sealed roads and done its first 100,000 km predominately in a 50 k zone. The ride at 32 psi is far better than original and some later ones i have driven. My thoughts are simply that the higher pressure required passes more road imperfections direct to the car.
was talking with the diesel service centre who was in awe when he seen it and shared that he had one and had put wider wheels on it which made it far better too drive/ride.
I simply remained with the std thinner ones with my farm experience in the past, knowing that the std ones will perform better in mud and the wider ones also fail off road easy with side wall punctures. i used to do endurance m/cycle racing and the organizers done tires every weekend (marking out course) from side walls allowing easy penetration of scrub on wider wheels.

what models should i look at for direct fitment without spacers etc.

 

[UltraFJ40]

These Grunt spacers are from Oz. I assume you're there as well. إخطار إعادة التوجيه

If not, then let me know and we'll find a decent set in your area.

 

[ken cheers]

These Grunt spacers are from Oz. I assume you're there as well. إخطار إعادة التوجيه

If not, then let me know and we'll find a decent set in your area.

For road use i understand these are not legal in australia. i could be wrong and mentioned that i didnt want spacers in my post above. But thanks, you are making me think on this more and if the width requires spacers, then i best ensure its safe and legal. im sure there safe otherwise they wouldnt be so popular. I had them on a drag dif 9 inch but it couldnt go for street use. Tough laws in australia.

 

[UltraFJ40]

For road use i understand these are not legal in australia. i could be wrong and mentioned that i didnt want spacers in my post above. But thanks, you are making me think on this more and if the width requires spacers, then i best ensure its safe and legal. im sure there safe otherwise they wouldnt be so popular. I had them on a drag dif 9 inch but it couldnt go for street use. Tough laws in australia.

Damn, I never would have thought that they'd be illegal in Oz. Backspacing it your only option then. Hopefully someone knows of a wheel near you that offers an off set that'll get it done.

@roscoFJ73 or @ozwallaby might have a better idea for you.

 

[Seth S]

A bigger aspect ratio tire should help soften the ride.

 

[gregnash]

Damn, I never would have thought that they'd be illegal in Oz. Backspacing it your only option then. Hopefully someone knows of a wheel near you that offers an off set that'll get it done.

@roscoFJ73 or @ozwallaby might have a better idea for you.

Since you guys have 70 series land cruiser there I believe that their rims/wheels are same offset and bolt pattern but are larger/wider. So if you could find some used 70 series rims you should be good to go with proper width, offset and bolt pattern.

 

[roscoFJ73]

Since you guys have 70 series land cruiser there I believe that their rims/wheels are same offset and bolt pattern but are larger/wider.

70 series rims pre 98 are identical to 60 series. But both the 60 and 70 (and 80 ) series had 15 and 16 inch rims in various widths.

what models should i look at for direct fitment without spacers etc.

If you are in Australia, you just need to ask a tyre and wheel shop, they have books with all those measurements.
You are right, back spacers are illegal here.
I think you need some new shockies or a high profile tyre. I use the 235x85x16 on 16x7 rims and I will never move away from them.
I also have OME leaf packs and they are 13-14 years old and began riding very rough as the OME nitrochargers shocks wore out. I replaced them with cheaper Gabriel Ultras but I'm not happy with them. So I think I will have to fork out for Nitrochargers. My leafs are not sagging but they are very bouncy ,so hopefully they just need a good shock to tame them.

 

[gregnash]

70 series rims pre 98 are identical to 60 series.

Are you sure about that? I thought they were only identical in look and bolt pattern. Otherwise they were 16x7 where the stock US 60s are 15x5.5.

 

[roscoFJ73]

I think the parts diagrams show 3-4 wheel options for each series. Ive had 15 and 16 inch rims on both my 73 75 and 61 series. All the same.
A lot of 60 series had the split rims, same as a the 75 series have.

This part number for example (I just checked) 42601-60180-05, is for a 16 inch rim that is for 60, 70 series landcruiser and 60,65,67 series Hilux.
This 15 inch rim 42601-60200-05 covers the same models except for the Hilux.
The 05 on the end means they are white in colour.
In Australia, it was mainly low spec HJ60 with barn doors bought by the govt and mining companies that had the 16 inch split rims.
I think the models with 15 inch rims had higher profile tyres which made them close to the same height.
Same for the 7* series

Apart from different widths, lengths and shapes, almost everything on 60 and 70 series from 84-90 is the same mechanically and electrically.

 

[gregnash]

See in the US we pretty much got only one rim for the 60/62 series, what we consider the standard chrome 15". The split rim you mention was available only for the 40 series in the US but fit the 60 series just fine. It wasn't until the 80 series happened in the US that we got a different rim and that jumped up to 16". However that had a different backspacing which necessitated spacers (some have run them without most run with) to increase the backspacing enough so that the tierod ends would not hit the caliper.

 

[ken cheers]

A bigger aspect ratio tire should help soften the ride.

i had to google that one. tyres std are 7.50 x16 on this old 60 series. so that is a high aspect ratio already. possibly the 8 ply (PR) tryes i guess make the side walls quite harsh and it having LT (light tuck) means parasitically i should consider a Hduty passenger tyre?

 

[ken cheers]

See in the US we pretty much got only one rim for the 60/62 series, what we consider the standard chrome 15". The split rim you mention was available only for the 40 series in the US but fit the 60 series just fine. It wasn't until the 80 series happened in the US that we got a different rim and that jumped up to 16". However that had a different backspacing which necessitated spacers (some have run them without most run with) to increase the backspacing enough so that the tierod ends would not hit the caliper.

hi Greg, i am not understanding this the calipers you are referring to would be the disc brake caliper? then how would spacers etc or tyre widths effect the relationship between the caliper and the tie rod end?

when people above refer to 70 series, does that include all 70 designations right through to 79? it also seems that the 100 series is the same as 70 series if i read right on different adds? so that would mean i could focus on 60 through to 100 series wheels and go for a 16 x 7? Currently its stamped on mine as 16x 5.5

 

[Seth S]

Caliper clearance depends on the shape and diameter of the rim. There could be a caliper issue if the back spacing is different in such a way that the web of the wheel was too close to the caliper.

The more likely issue is that the spacing moves the inner lip of the wheel too far onboard causing the wheel to run on suspension and steering components....hence the need for spacers to move the wheel away from the car and increase clearance.

 

[gregnash]

The more likely issue is that the spacing moves the inner lip of the wheel too far onboard causing the wheel to run on suspension and steering components....hence the need for spacers to move the wheel away from the car and increase clearance.

This...

 

[ken cheers]

Yes thanks you. fully understand. just that i read when you add a spacing, it can foul the various parts and adding a spacing would set the wheel further out. obviously just a different language LOL ill learn American one day i found some great websites on thsi but im still not sure what wheels from all the models will fit straight up without spacers. im 16 inch x 5.5 with 750 16 tyres dunlops as they came out. roadgrippers.
i here the replacement would be
235/85 R16 which is 32 inch
285/75 r 16 33 inch
255/85 16 33 inch.
max diameter is 845 mm but there seems to be some coming up with slightly lower amounts. this would gear it up maybe about 10% from a guesstimate.

thanks for all responses and its nice to bounce ideas around from others with more experience. thanks.

 

[gregnash]

No worries dude... "Fit" is a subjective term for the wheels, basically anything that has the 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern (wanna say 139.7 x 5.5 metric) SHOULD fit. On the US side, that include other mfg. wheels that came stock on stuff like Nissan Pathfinder (believe its the Patrol for you) and various older Chevy, but also includes all Toyota 4Runner (Surf) and Tacoma (Hilux?) up to current years.