470 to 460 regrets (1 Viewer)
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The main thing I dislike about moving from the 470 to the 460 is the higher floor in the rear area. Since the seats are built into the floor, it's a couple inches higher, and now barely too high for my old dog to jump into.
Also the 470 felt a bit quicker under light/medium throttle. Not sure if that's the throttle, better low end torque, less weight, or what. But the 460 needs to rev a little more.
At the end of the day they're very similar, and both fantastic.
Also the 470 felt a bit quicker under light/medium throttle. Not sure if that's the throttle, better low end torque, less weight, or what. But the 460 needs to rev a little more.
At the end of the day they're very similar, and both fantastic.
MrTorgue
Grizzly Clint
I own both and I've got to be honest here. Sometimes after driving the 470 I almost wish I would of bought another one. I had an opportunity to buy an exact clone of our 470 with 20k less miles and I opted for the 460 instead. If I didn't have the luxury of having both to be straight I wouldn't make the trade. and I'd keep the 470 The 470 has just too many more reasons to keep it unless it is not mechanically reliable (which is a statistical impossibility
). Better modding possibilities, better driving experience (minus legroom/seats) and cheaper. It's a tough choice and really any GX is better than anything else. (sans Land Cruiser / Lexus LX) I'm infinitely happy with the 460 and wouldn't trade it for a 470 at this point. You'll love either of them, so go with what your gut says and which one has a better service history/mechanical condition.The 470 is definitely more light on its feet and more enjoyable to drive around town with the instant throttle response and slightly more direct steering. The 460 is much more comfortable on roadtrips. I really need to get a pedal commander on the 460, that throttle is just too damn lazy for my taste. I guess all my years of V8's and instant throttle response spoiled me and the fact that my last car was a modified Charger R/T that ran like a stabbed rat.
Pedal Commander should help address throttle issues
Every timed test I have seen puts the 460 ahead
www.motortrend.com
“At the test track, we found the new 2010 GX 460 accelerates briskly, hitting 60 mph in an impressive 6.9 seconds. That is just over a full second faster than the GX 470 we last tested (8.0 seconds) in 2003. The quarter-mile marker also arrives much sooner -- the new model needs only 15.4 seconds at 89.7 mph to the GX 470's 16.1 seconds @ 84.8 mph. Braking is also much improved; our 5112 pound GX 460 needed only 114 feet to stop from 60 mph, which is astonishing for a vehicle that heavy. The 440 pounds lighter GX 470 we tested ages ago needed 131 feet.”
Every timed test I have seen puts the 460 ahead
2010 Lexus GX 460 First Test - Motor Trend
When we first drove the all-new 2010 Lexus GX 460 back in November 2009, we came away impressed with the premium SUV's high riding mix of leather-lined luxury and traditional body-on-frame toughness. Read about the 2010 Lexus GX 460 in this first test brought to you by the automotive experts at...
“At the test track, we found the new 2010 GX 460 accelerates briskly, hitting 60 mph in an impressive 6.9 seconds. That is just over a full second faster than the GX 470 we last tested (8.0 seconds) in 2003. The quarter-mile marker also arrives much sooner -- the new model needs only 15.4 seconds at 89.7 mph to the GX 470's 16.1 seconds @ 84.8 mph. Braking is also much improved; our 5112 pound GX 460 needed only 114 feet to stop from 60 mph, which is astonishing for a vehicle that heavy. The 440 pounds lighter GX 470 we tested ages ago needed 131 feet.”
MrTorgue
Grizzly Clint
Pedal Commander should help address throttle issues
Every timed test I have seen puts the 460 ahead
2010 Lexus GX 460 First Test - Motor Trend
When we first drove the all-new 2010 Lexus GX 460 back in November 2009, we came away impressed with the premium SUV's high riding mix of leather-lined luxury and traditional body-on-frame toughness. Read about the 2010 Lexus GX 460 in this first test brought to you by the automotive experts at...
“At the test track, we found the new 2010 GX 460 accelerates briskly, hitting 60 mph in an impressive 6.9 seconds. That is just over a full second faster than the GX 470 we last tested (8.0 seconds) in 2003. The quarter-mile marker also arrives much sooner -- the new model needs only 15.4 seconds at 89.7 mph to the GX 470's 16.1 seconds @ 84.8 mph. Braking is also much improved; our 5112 pound GX 460 needed only 114 feet to stop from 60 mph, which is astonishing for a vehicle that heavy. The 440 pounds lighter GX 470 we tested ages ago needed 131 feet.”
I'll let you know what happens. when we line up. LOL The improvement in 2005 with a few extra ponies should put it in the mid/upper 7 second range.
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I have the pedal commander on my 2013 GX 460 premium and it helps , for sure.Pedal Commander should help address throttle issues
Every timed test I have seen puts the 460 ahead
2010 Lexus GX 460 First Test - Motor Trend
When we first drove the all-new 2010 Lexus GX 460 back in November 2009, we came away impressed with the premium SUV's high riding mix of leather-lined luxury and traditional body-on-frame toughness. Read about the 2010 Lexus GX 460 in this first test brought to you by the automotive experts at...
“At the test track, we found the new 2010 GX 460 accelerates briskly, hitting 60 mph in an impressive 6.9 seconds. That is just over a full second faster than the GX 470 we last tested (8.0 seconds) in 2003. The quarter-mile marker also arrives much sooner -- the new model needs only 15.4 seconds at 89.7 mph to the GX 470's 16.1 seconds @ 84.8 mph. Braking is also much improved; our 5112 pound GX 460 needed only 114 feet to stop from 60 mph, which is astonishing for a vehicle that heavy. The 440 pounds lighter GX 470 we tested ages ago needed 131 feet.”
It's nowhere the same feeling as the 470 .
They did not improve the GX , they changed it completely
I friend of mine bought an old Sequoia with the 470 , same thing , excellent take off to 50mph , fun to drive
r2m
Richard
How important is that flip up rear window, better MPG, 3 climate zones (if you have it) and some of the other upgrades??? 
That's probably a personal call.
That's probably a personal call.
I prefer the looks of the 470, in stock form, that's about where it ends for me in this comparison. The 460 is better nearly everywhere else. I couldn't care less about a small felt boost in power in the 470, the 4.6L is a better motor and at the end of the day these are 5K pound SUV's with lifts and heavy over sized tires, not sports sedans so why should that even factor?!
This doesn’t help the OP since I am not a previous owner of a 470, but I really wanted a 470 over a 460, at first. The problem was: “the secret came out”. (and I am a late comer, so I did not know the secret).
When shopping for a 470 with KDSS it was really tough to find one with a good history for less than $18K in my area. I felt if the 470 wasn’t bought at the right price it was too close to asking prices for the 460 which had KDSS as standard equipment. And often, there are 2010 - 2013 460’s at close to $18K.
I ended up with a really well documented ‘14 460 with 111K miles for ~$25K. I don’t think it was well bought, but it looks and drives like it is only 30K miles. I, illogically, went with a ‘14+ because I like the grill and want to put on the CBI bumper. This decision cost me about $5k more, but I did the whole... “On your death bed would you care about $5K?” rationalization.
That said, I still want a 470. But the 460 with a mild build allows me to take out customers (whenever Covid19 calms) and daily drive it.
I really want to run the 2UZ-FE iron block engine. For no good reason. I just want it.
When shopping for a 470 with KDSS it was really tough to find one with a good history for less than $18K in my area. I felt if the 470 wasn’t bought at the right price it was too close to asking prices for the 460 which had KDSS as standard equipment. And often, there are 2010 - 2013 460’s at close to $18K.
I ended up with a really well documented ‘14 460 with 111K miles for ~$25K. I don’t think it was well bought, but it looks and drives like it is only 30K miles. I, illogically, went with a ‘14+ because I like the grill and want to put on the CBI bumper. This decision cost me about $5k more, but I did the whole... “On your death bed would you care about $5K?” rationalization.
That said, I still want a 470. But the 460 with a mild build allows me to take out customers (whenever Covid19 calms) and daily drive it.
I really want to run the 2UZ-FE iron block engine. For no good reason. I just want it.
Mine is the first GX I have owned and it is a 460. So I can't do a direct comparison, but I have a few features I would not do without.
KDSS is a must have. Damn nice for accidental hot corners and unbelievable for a vehicle this size. No comparison with other SUVs. Its a safety thing, but also gives better articulation offroad.
I live in the south. Cooled seats are very nice.
The 2010-2013 styling is better than 470 or 2014+. Just preference.
460 motor is chain timed rather than belt, but TBH it is not really an issue on the 470 either.
The pop up rear window has been handy more times than I expected.
Is the cupholder and front storage options better in the 470? I'm hating on my storage options up front. No where to put s*** when traveling and it is annoying.
S
KDSS is a must have. Damn nice for accidental hot corners and unbelievable for a vehicle this size. No comparison with other SUVs. Its a safety thing, but also gives better articulation offroad.
I live in the south. Cooled seats are very nice.
The 2010-2013 styling is better than 470 or 2014+. Just preference.
460 motor is chain timed rather than belt, but TBH it is not really an issue on the 470 either.
The pop up rear window has been handy more times than I expected.
Is the cupholder and front storage options better in the 470? I'm hating on my storage options up front. No where to put s*** when traveling and it is annoying.
S
Is the Pedal Commander really worth the $300 ??
Fuel prices rising............
Fuel prices rising............
IMHO ... a hard no. For free, you can step on the gas a little harder and do much the same thing it does. All it does is change the electrical response to throttle body to a sharper slope early in the gas pedal travel, so it "feels more responsive" to a light push on the throttle.
thx.....not at all familiar with the unit...
But if it would save fuel over time....
But if it would save fuel over time....
I don't see how it would save fuel any more than being deliberate in your driving technique would. All Econ mode does is the opposite of Sport (or whatever they call it) mode. In Econ, it flattens the ramp rate so the throttle body sees a slower throttle application. In "Sport", it steepens the ramp rate so the throttle body sees a faster throttle application.
I run mine primarily in ECO mode... you might net half mile MPG... it makes mine less jerky in stop and go traffic or parking lots.
You can try it out for 30 days but looks like they charge $9.
I paid around $250 for mine 2.5 years ago and it is the Bluetooth model. The old non-BT models used to go for less than $200.
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There are a few other throttle controllers that also act as a anti-theft device. You can program them to deactivate the throttle circuit
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You can try it out for 30 days but looks like they charge $9.
I paid around $250 for mine 2.5 years ago and it is the Bluetooth model. The old non-BT models used to go for less than $200.
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There are a few other throttle controllers that also act as a anti-theft device. You can program them to deactivate the throttle circuit
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Yes , it is worth it , hands down.
No , not the same to just press farther on gas peddle , not even close
No , not the same to just press farther on gas peddle , not even close
