GX 460 or LC 200 (1 Viewer)

[23GXOR]

I couldn't get over the fact that the 200 had such an antiquated infotainment system given it's price. If the LX/LC had received a late refresh like the GX did, I'd own one of them instead.

I have spent too much time messing with aftermarket car audio electronics, I know the pitfalls all to well. Aftermarket solutions almost never just work, and the more involved they are, the more time you spend fiddling with them. I intend to keep my GX for a decade or more. Getting an old school Lexus truck with a new(ish) infotainment system was a deal I couldn't pass up.

I just hope it never breaks, because that screen module on the 22-23s is an insanely expensive part.

 

[Rednexus]

I cross shopped both pretty heavily. The 200 is better but not by much. I honestly felt like the 460 delivered 75-85% of the 200 goodness at nearly half the price. Both drive and handle similarly, both have KDSS and full time 4WD with center locking diff. GX is the better city cruiser, 200 is better on the highway.

200 has more power with it’s 5.7. More interior space/comfort, a split tailgate, greater towing capacity and overall utility, and the name plate to boot. 460 has nicer interior materials, a slightly quieter cabin, slightly better mpg and range. Also if you get a 2022-2023 model you get the refreshed interior which I personally prefer with its button layout, OEM CarPlay/AA, etc.

In the end I went with the 200 because I wanted to see what owning an LC was all about and I also preferred the styling as well compared to the GX. As far as value, I would have spent nearly as much modding a late model 460 with bumpers, sliders, lift, wheels, tires, etc to achieve the look I wanted that I would have spent just as much as what my 200 cost me.

One other plus with the 150 - and the 120 for that matter - is platform sharing with the T4R. Most mechanical parts for the GX are readily available at any auto parts store in the USA, or can be ordered within a day. Even here in domestic Diesel Bro country, my local NAPA stocks brake calipers, I can pretty easily find things like steering knuckle seals in stock, and my local O'Reilly's was able to get a power steering line within a few hours of me ordering it.

Not sure if that is the case for a 200 or not, as I understand they do share some parts with the Tundra. But, it's a much lower-production platform compared to the 150 and T4R, so I would be surprised if parts are as easy to find. That may not be an issue today, but can become an issue as these rigs age. Especially if you are like me and daily-drive one that is 18 years old and take it thousands of miles from home.

 

[Specialeyes]

One other plus with the 150 - and the 120 for that matter - is platform sharing with the T4R. Most mechanical parts for the GX are readily available at any auto parts store in the USA, or can be ordered within a day. Even here in domestic Diesel Bro country, my local NAPA stocks brake calipers, I can pretty easily find things like steering knuckle seals in stock, and my local O'Reilly's was able to get a power steering line within a few hours of me ordering it.

Not sure if that is the case for a 200 or not, as I understand they do share some parts with the Tundra. But, it's a much lower-production platform compared to the 150 and T4R, so I would be surprised if parts are as easy to find. That may not be an issue today, but can become an issue as these rigs age. Especially if you are like me and daily-drive one that is 18 years old and take it thousands of miles from home.

That’s a very good point to add. Definitely more supply of 150 parts compared to 200 here in the states.

 

[5space]

Fwiw i have a '19 GX and 3 kids in car seats. I run all 3 in the middle row and they have a little room between each and between them and the doors. Pretty good interior space if you ask me!

 

[Inside Out]

I own a ‘17 LC and a ‘23 GX. The comments in this thread are spot-on. There are clear and distinct differences between the two. A few additional thoughts:

There is definitely more headroom in the GX, by a few inches. I’m 6’7” so I notice this in every car I drive. I have no issues in the GX. I brush the headliner in the LC. Legroom about even as I see it.

The LC tracks much better at highway speeds. The GX wanders quite a bit and if it’s windy will get pushed around. I don’t like highway driving the GX for that reason.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I own a ‘17 LC and a ‘23 GX. The comments in this thread are spot-on. There are clear and distinct differences between the two. A few additional thoughts:

There is definitely more headroom in the GX, by a few inches. I’m 6’7” so I notice this in every car I drive. I have no issues in the GX. I brush the headliner in the LC. Legroom about even as I see it.

The LC tracks much better at highway speeds. The GX wanders quite a bit and if it’s windy will get pushed around. I don’t like highway driving the GX for that reason.

Bilstein 5100s helped a lot with the wind in my GX, FWIW

 

[Rednexus]

Bilstein 5100s helped a lot with the wind in my GX, FWIW

Could also be an alignment issue. My 470 tracks perfectly, despite being lifted and on 33s. These rigs don't track well if they have tire or alignment problems, and not every shop takes the time to really dial the alignment.

 

[Hiluxforever]

Could also be an alignment issue. My 470 tracks perfectly, despite being lifted and on 33s. These rigs don't track well if they have tire or alignment problems, and not every shop takes the time to really dial the alignment.

Yep, I frequently have 50+ mph crosswinds.

 

[suitcase]

I wanted a 200, but even used prices were high. My camping pal has a 100 and I envy the extra interior space compared to my 460. A big beef I have with the 460 is that it can't fit my 29er mtn bike in a vertical position. The mtn bike fits vertically in my brother's 470 and also in my CRV. I like how the third row seats in the LC and 470 can be removed. I've seen the inside of a 200 and I'm pretty sure I'd be able to fit my mtn bike in vertically. While many people have removed the third row in the 460, it's not designed to be removed so it's not something you can easily put back in at a moment's notice. I think I got a pretty good deal on my 460 and even knowing what I know now I'd still have to take it over a 200 unless I was able to score a great deal on the 200.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I wanted a 200, but even used prices were high. My camping pal has a 100 and I envy the extra interior space compared to my 460. A big beef I have with the 460 is that it can't fit my 29er mtn bike in a vertical position. The mtn bike fits vertically in my brother's 470 and also in my CRV. I like how the third row seats in the LC and 470 can be removed. I've seen the inside of a 200 and I'm pretty sure I'd be able to fit my mtn bike in vertically. While many people have removed the third row in the 460, it's not designed to be removed so it's not something you can easily put back in at a moment's notice. I think I got a pretty good deal on my 460 and even knowing what I know now I'd still have to take it over a 200 unless I was able to score a great deal on the 200.

I have all my parts still and that would be way less work than I had to do to my little turbo hatchback when I had to remove the front mount intercooler and blow off valve to trade it. That was a headache.

 

[BigSwede]

My camping pal has a 100 and I envy the extra interior space compared to my 460.

FWIW, like a LC200, a LC100 also has less headroom than a GX. I was going to buy a hundy until I actually sat in one.

 

[Rednexus]

I wanted a 200, but even used prices were high. My camping pal has a 100 and I envy the extra interior space compared to my 460. A big beef I have with the 460 is that it can't fit my 29er mtn bike in a vertical position. The mtn bike fits vertically in my brother's 470 and also in my CRV. I like how the third row seats in the LC and 470 can be removed. I've seen the inside of a 200 and I'm pretty sure I'd be able to fit my mtn bike in vertically. While many people have removed the third row in the 460, it's not designed to be removed so it's not something you can easily put back in at a moment's notice. I think I got a pretty good deal on my 460 and even knowing what I know now I'd still have to take it over a 200 unless I was able to score a great deal on the 200.

Some folks think it's crazy - but I routinely haul bikes on top of my GX with fork-mount racks. Like thousands of miles with bikes on the top....thru axle and QR bikes too. I'm convinced it's a lot less hassle than putting the bike in the rig or dealing with a hitch-mount carrier. I don't have a FS 29er - our 25# 650B campground cruisers are the heaviest bikes we have - so it's not terrible hoisting them up there with one foot on the rock slider and one on the rear tire.

 

[Hiluxforever]

Some folks think it's crazy - but I routinely haul bikes on top of my GX with fork-mount racks. Like thousands of miles with bikes on the top....thru axle and QR bikes too. I'm convinced it's a lot less hassle than putting the bike in the rig or dealing with a hitch-mount carrier. I don't have a FS 29er - our 25# 650B campground cruisers are the heaviest bikes we have - so it's not terrible hoisting them up there with one foot on the rock slider and one on the rear tire.
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That's the OG way to do it. I installed quite a few Yakima racks back in the day when I worked at a local bike shop.

 

[Rednexus]

That's the OG way to do it. I installed quite a few Yakima racks back in the day when I worked at a local bike shop.

I had Yakima bike racks from my Subaru days, so it was an easy transition . Since getting a thru-axle bike I've upgraded to Kuats.

I spent several hours trying to think up a swing-out hitch carrier that will work on the back of our camper and came up empty-handed. Instead I ordered a Prospeed roof rack for the GX that should allow both of our 650B campground cruisers and our kids bikes to all go on the roof of my GX on camping trips.

 

[Hiluxforever]

I have heard they are quite nice(Kuats)

I wouldn't recommend the Yakima solution. It can put a lot of stress on downtube. I thought they may have even had a TSB about not using it with carbon bikes. That would have been 30 years ago, though.

 

[r2m]

Some folks think it's crazy - but I routinely haul bikes on top of my GX with fork-mount racks. Like thousands of miles with bikes on the top....thru axle and QR bikes too. I'm convinced it's a lot less hassle than putting the bike in the rig or dealing with a hitch-mount carrier. I don't have a FS 29er - our 25# 650B campground cruisers are the heaviest bikes we have - so it's not terrible hoisting them up there with one foot on the rock slider and one on the rear tire.
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That's the way I used to haul mine back in the '90's! Just had to remember they were up there when I pulled into the garage!

 

[Hiluxforever]

That's the way I used to haul mine back in the '90's! Just had to remember they were up there when I pulled into the garage!

Knew a few people who forgot. One dude totaled his amigo. Peeled the top like a can.

 

[Poop Bubbles]

Bikes on the roof rack is the way to go, if you care about your bikes. They get the full benefit of the suspension up there. Hitch mount setups beat the s*** out of them.

 

[Hiluxforever]

Bikes on the roof rack is the way to go, if you care about your bikes. They get the full benefit of the suspension up there. Hitch mount setups beat the s*** out of them.

I had a bike on the back of a car during a blizzard. I salvaged most of the drivetrain but the chain was a goner. All rusted to high hell from the salt.

 

[r2m]

Bikes on the roof rack is the way to go, if you care about your bikes. They get the full benefit of the suspension up there. Hitch mount setups beat the s*** out of them.

Also a LOT easier to parallel park with bikes on top. Even with a backup camera, backing into a space with a rack on the back really throws off ones perspective of how much room they have backing up.