4 wheel complete lockers

[Blasst]

Is it possible to have true 4 wheel lockout including differential with the AWD models. I suppose it is. Just am not familiar with the system. I have never had a AWD..... I always had a transfer case. Maybe they do too. ) Just want to be sure I can set up for 4 wheel lockers.

 

[ikeb]

Is it possible to have true 4 wheel lockout including differential with the AWD models. I suppose it is. Just am not familiar with the system. I have never had a AWD..... I always had a transfer case. Maybe they do too. ) Just want to be sure I can set up for 4 wheel lockers.

the land cruiser isn't AWD, it's a full-time 4wd. the difference is that there is a 4L option, whereas AWD doesn't have 4L...

and yes, you can add front and rear lockers to be triple locked. ARB and harrop make lockers for the 200 series.

 

[Blasst]

Gotcha....thanks. The seller just worded his add wrong. One of those who never took it off road and never knew the difference I guess.

Actually I forgot....had a hummer H3 like that. Accidentally put it in 4L once on pavement...wow took 2 seconds of bucking and chirping for me to slam on brakes and change the setup. Wish I had kept that for my collection. It was amazing

 

[jblatl]

H3 amazing??? My Wouk colleague had one and was a total dog.

 

[Blasst]

yeah mine was awesome. I've seen some on youtube that made them look absolutely terrible....made me wonder if it was on purpose.
My experience was the opposite. It was astounding. Amazing drivetrain, approach angle. I've heard them badmouthed and I'm amazed.
Mine would crawl up a cliff or go through ridiculous swamps. Haven't seen anything that would equal it except when it came down to absolute weight making the difference.....like crossing quicksand)))

Took my Hummer across Russia along with 2 80 series LC's. If you are familiar with the trip it ain't for toys.
Worked our winches a lot. You really need three vehicles for the Russia trip. Some rivers are deep, wide and scary. I pulled the trailer because the Hummer had so much more power. Most of the time I didn't even notice it was there.

Yes another Hummer is on my watch list. Definitely want one. Haven't seen anything that would come close to doing things so easily....but there are some amazing products coming out now.

I collect Porsche's and I'm starting a 4WD collection. (So far have 2 LOL) My girlfriend wants a newer model so I'm looking at 2008-2011

 

[Blasst]

H3 amazing??? My Wouk colleague had one and was a total dog.

oh yes.....now I recall...yeah they made some 5 cylinder Hummers that put out 220 horsepower that were no doubt a piece of crap. All you had to do was look at the specs and know to walk away from that model. Mine had 300 hp and I got more tickets in in than I do my turbo Porsche. I'd love to pick one up and put a hemi in now. (I say that about everything these days. Once you have hemi it's hard to live without one.)
Another thing about the hummer they were not burdened down with unnecessary electronics.. To me this in one of the really appealing things about many TLC's of the same era. 2000-2010

 

[teambell]

oh yes.....now I recall...yeah they made some 5 cylinder Hummers that put out 220 horsepower that were no doubt a piece of crap. All you had to do was look at the specs and know to walk away from that model. Mine had 300 hp and I got more tickets in in than I do my turbo Porsche. I'd love to pick one up and put a hemi in now. (I say that about everything these days. Once you have hemi it's hard to live without one.)
Another thing about the hummer they were not burdened down with unnecessary electronics.. To me this in one of the really appealing things about many TLC's of the same era. 2000-2010

Oh WOW! do tell us more! Are you sure it was an H3? I never even drove one because they looked like an H3.

 

[M1911]

Is it possible to have true 4 wheel lockout including differential with the AWD models. I suppose it is. Just am not familiar with the system. I have never had a AWD..... I always had a transfer case. Maybe they do too. ) Just want to be sure I can set up for 4 wheel lockers.

Once you have locked the center differential, the 200 Series LC behaves just the same as the part-time systems that you have had in the past.

The part-time systems you had in the past probably had open front and rear differentials as well. There are locking front and rear differentials available for the LC 200 (ARB is perhaps the best known) -- they aren't cheap.

 

[Desert Nomad]

Once you have locked the center differential, the 200 Series LC behaves just the same as the part-time systems that you have had in the past.

The part-time systems you had in the past probably had open front and rear differentials as well. There are locking front and rear differentials available for the LC 200 (ARB is perhaps the best known) -- they aren't cheap.

But still does not compare to a 4 wheel locked h3

 

[Tremek]

Oh WOW! do tell us more! Are you sure it was an H3? I never even drove one because they looked like an H3.

The H3 was based on the same chassis/drivetrain as the Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon and they did make an H3 Alpha variant late in its run that came with a 5.3 GM V8 out of the full size trucks. H3 and H3T Alphas today are still going for unbelievably ridiculous asking prices with 100-200k miles on them, easily as ridiculous as LCs.

 

[M1911]

But still does not compare to a 4 wheel locked h3

Huh? How is that? Doesn't it just have a lockable center diff, plus open diffs front and rear?

 

[teambell]

The H3 was based on the same chassis/drivetrain as the Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon and they did make an H3 Alpha variant late in its run that came with a 5.3 GM V8 out of the full size trucks. H3 and H3T Alphas today are still going for unbelievably ridiculous asking prices with 100-200k miles on them, easily as ridiculous as LCs.

I did not know that.

 

[Tremek]

Looks like H3 Alphas are coming down a bit (15-20k asking on average for 100k miles) and H3T Alphas (which to be fair were hen's teeth right at the end of the Bad Old GM era) average an insane mid-$20s.

PS, the transmission and drivetrain on the H3s weren't anything special, but the H3T (for its very brief 2009-2010 run in which they made something like a grand total of 5,000 trucks) did allow for a front & rear electric locker option. No center diff locker on any of them from the factory so far as I know. There were even ~50 manual transmission trucks but it may have only been on the 5 cylinder.

 

[Desert Nomad]

Huh? How is that? Doesn't it just have a lockable center diff, plus open diffs front and rear?

Was being sarcastic...

I personally hate the h2/h3 as I've sat in an h1 as a kid and I can't stand the fact that they tried to milk the name. if they didn't call it a hummer and it was a generic suv I'd have no issues with it but to build something that would never fill the shoes of it's predecessor is plain stupid. just like Land rover and their defender "replacement"

Sorry rant over

 

[Tremek]

Hot take: the HMMWV/H1 is also a bad truck by most any measure. Hummer was definitely a name-grab but people bought them in droves... I still see a lot of (not good) H2s on the road.

 

[jblatl]

The one at my office was a 5 cylinder truck. Very underpowered, no lockers, it did have 150k on the odometer.

He was always complaining about it, he now drives a Honda Civic and never complaines about his car anymore.

 

[Willy beamin]

Ha ha. The Honda cured him

 

[M1911]

Was being sarcastic...

I personally hate the h2/h3 as I've sat in an h1 as a kid and I can't stand the fact that they tried to milk the name. if they didn't call it a hummer and it was a generic suv I'd have no issues with it but to build something that would never fill the shoes of it's predecessor is plain stupid. just like Land rover and their defender "replacement"

Sorry rant over

I thought you might have been sarcastic.

As you said, the H2 and H3 were simply rebodied Tahoes and Colorados. The H1 was capable off-road, but horridly slow, stupidly wide, and very uncomfortable inside. The H1 is huge on the outside, but tiny on the inside due to the that huge engine/transmission cover.

 

[White Stripe]

yeah mine was awesome. I've seen some on youtube that made them look absolutely terrible....made me wonder if it was on purpose.

My experience was the opposite. It was astounding. Amazing drivetrain, approach angle. I've heard them badmouthed and I'm amazed.
Mine would crawl up a cliff or go through ridiculous swamps. Haven't seen anything that would equal it except when it came down to absolute weight making the difference.....like crossing quicksand)))

Took my Hummer across Russia along with 2 80 series LC's. If you are familiar with the trip it ain't for toys.
Worked our winches a lot. You really need three vehicles for the Russia trip. Some rivers are deep, wide and scary. I pulled the trailer because the Hummer had so much more power. Most of the time I didn't even notice it was there.

Yes another Hummer is on my watch list. Definitely want one. Haven't seen anything that would come close to doing things so easily....but there are some amazing products coming out now.

I collect Porsche's and I'm starting a 4WD collection. (So far have 2 LOL) My girlfriend wants a newer model so I'm looking at 2008-2011

Going to a Landcruiser forum and saying nothing compares to a h3 offroad is like going to a Porsche forum and saying corvettes are the best sports car. Or like walking through a Issis camp in Syria wearing a American flag t-shirt and asking for directions to Starbucks. In all three scenarios you get the same outcome.

 

[Markuson]

Was being sarcastic...

I personally hate the h2/h3 as I've sat in an h1 as a kid and I can't stand the fact that they tried to milk the name. if they didn't call it a hummer and it was a generic suv I'd have no issues with it but to build something that would never fill the shoes of it's predecessor is plain stupid. just like Land rover and their defender "replacement"

Sorry rant over

Totally agree on the use of the Hummer name. Just seemed gimmicky when the H3 hit (and even the H2). Heck, the H2 is built on their truck frame, and really had nothing remotely similar to the crazy clearance of the H1.

Have y'all seen the new OshKosh though (H1 replacement)?? Wow. That thing it is beast.