35's on 2.5" OME Pics Please

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NorCalDoug said:
I didn't like the idea of having a non-matching spare, so I ordered the other 4 as well. Had this not occurred, I'd still be rolling on 285 and working on the necessary mods to run 315s.

Doug your story is very simular as to why I now have OEM steel wheels. :D

nakman, same for me with my 295's. I've decided that 315's are out of the question till I:

1. wear out my 295's

2. can afford to regear

After parking next to a H2 with 315/70/17's (stock size which is ~35) I felt better about my 295's. They were almost the same size.
 
T Y L E R said:
Bear80 ,

We're all coming at you from 2 or 3 directions . On one extreme , we have very , very capable , and intelligently modded 80's that run 35's and are enviable trail rigs .

This is in no way meant to be rude to you TY or anyone else that feels more lift is needed for 35's.

But did you not read the title of this tread......35's and ONLY 2.5" I completely understand there is much more needed if you want to run capable 35's.

T Y L E R said:
Before you know it you've left the street :princess: behind in the asphalt and transcend into something capable of nearly anything but fitting back into the garage .. ;)

UM NO, in a similar issue the dumb asses at 4wheelparts told me the same thing about my mini...."oh you'll never be happy with a 3"lift and 32 or 33's, you'll just want more and end up spending more money for 2 lifts."

I love the setup on my truck I don't need the badest highest lift. My truck with the downey lift and 32's take me over everything I could ever want to go over. And many times it's about choosing the line......What happened to the days of "smart" wheeling, not just building rigs that can just run over anything.
 
TX_TLC said:
Not to hijack...but Kalawang is that a stock rear tire carrier for your non US spec 80? I would like to see more pics of it...

Where are you located?

Thanks


TX_TLC,


The tire carrier came with the LC80 which came as junk when I bought it. The 315x75R16 on that carrier effectively blocks your rear view on the right and also reduces the visibility of your right rear tail light. You can see and be seen much more easily when you mount 33's. I've since worn out the 315's and have mounted 33's of the same brand and model, Yokohama M/T's. My lift is only 2", but close enough for illustrative purposes. I've also added a cheap 3'd brake light.

The LC80 is a converted Japanese Deisel, and came with the 4.11 gears. There is a very small subtle improvement in power when you move to 33's from 35's. A 2" lift with 35's works better on the street than off road, unless the off road use is VERY mild. River crossings are definitely more doable with large tires because of the greater clearance, but full flexing causes the tires to rub. There are sometimes rocks in the river that you have to climb rather than straddle or go around.

Bear80,


For street use, 35's become bling but are not a problem unless you like flying over speed bumps. 33's are probably more practicle as they give you more room in the wheel well for flex and as some US Cruisers came with a 3.70 which would probably make the power loss more apparent, but gives a better top end. SLEE advises that you use at least a 4" lift if you go to 35" tires and that is good advice if you want to use the Cruiser with full flex capability. In the street, you hardly ever do that much flex.

I suggest you look for someone with a car like yours fitted with 35's and ask for a ride. It will tell you much. If you don't know what your gearing is, go to a gas staion, lift your car and turn the rear wheels one revolution, while counting the number of turns your drive shaft makes. It's easier if you mark them with chalk first. If you already have 4.11, you might find the acceleration acceptable.

For sure, if you go to 35's you will need more stopping room and will therefore have to learn to brake earlier. The heavier tires will also shorten the life of your bearings and tie rod ends, but that will not mean much as they take a long time regardless. Also, if you're driving a very old much used car, you'll find things giving up the ghost. That doesn't mean that much as they would have probably been about to give up the ghost anyway. More significant will be changeing a flat and trying to get the tire on the carrier. :eek:

Personally, I find the 33's adequate for my 2" lift and only miss the low rpm cruising I used to get on long trips. However I like the ease I now have of getting in and out and the easier time I now have putting luggage in and out of the rear. I'm no longer as tall nor see as far but, for me, it hasn't been a great loss.


Kalawang
 
Bear80 said:
This is only for the guys with 35's and 2.5" lift. I've seen it in person and action but I want to see and hear what you guys think about it. So could you guys post some good pics up. Also what kind of wheeling do any of you do. What are you opinions on keeping the stock gears and running 35's no extra bull**** just stock gears and 35's

I ran 35s (MTRs) with 2.5 lift + 20mm spacers in the front along with stock gearing for about a year. Wheeled it at Moab as well as local trails in KS and Mo. Ran mostly 3+ and 4 rated trails. No rubbing at all in the front, and only minor rubbing in the rear. Power on the street was acceptable. Traveling at higher elevations requires a bit of patience, tho. Off-road power is reduced as well and negotiating harder trail obstacles requires more effort, especially at altitude. I wheeled last year at Moab after regearing and was much happier with the performance both on and off road.

Bob
 
Bear80 , if thats 'all' you got out of the post , then I obviously can't help you worth s*** bud .

You can always join a local 4x4 group . Remember to impress them by telling them to fxxx off every time they offer info or advice your way because you feel it doesn't dare fit into your own delicately myopic objectives ...


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Really Bear, you do not want advice, you just want to do what you want to do. So just do it, stop asking if it can be done or not. figure out the issues as you go along. Good luck robbie
 
Bear80 said:
This is only for the guys with 35's and 2.5" lift. I've seen it in person and action but I want to see and hear what you guys think about it. So could you guys post some good pics up. Also what kind of wheeling do any of you do. What are you opinions on keeping the stock gears and running 35's no extra bull**** just stock gears and 35's

No offense Bear, but why did you ask? People on this site are extremely helpful. Just take it all in and chill.
 
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Kalawang said:
... and as some US Cruisers came with a 3.70

I believe all 80's sold in the US came with 4.10 diff gearing.

-B-
 
robbie said:
Really Bear, you do not want advice, you just want to do what you want to do. So just do it, stop asking if it can be done or not. figure out the issues as you go along. Good luck robbie

Sorry guys, I really don't mean to come off rude. In no means do I want to blow off anyone or piss them off....seems I have though and I'm sorry. :whoops: First, yes I will do what I want to do and I'm not asking if it can be done but asking what people who have that setup feel about it. The thing is that there is plenty of treads discussing the best way to run 35's ie. 4+ lifts but there doesn't seem to be a good tread discussing 35's on a 2.5" lift. I wanted the opinions of those running the 2.5" & 35's setup. NOT reasons why it shouldn't be done.
I know you did have this setup TY and I understand you felt the need to go higher and run different wheels/tires. So if you're not still pissed at me, what did you think of the overall with that setup. Perhaps one day I will feel the need for a higher lift but right now that's not the case, and I really think people shouldn't second guess.
 
Bear80 said:
Sorry guys, I really don't mean to come off rude.

... and I really think people shouldn't second guess.

Bear80,

In an open forum like this you cannot expect that people will restrict their replies to specific things that you want them to respond to. That's not the way it works. It's best to just ignore "off-base" replies or give them a polite "thanks."

The reason people second guess is to keep others from making the same mistakes. That's what makes this a great learning environment; we can do certain mods and capitalize on the work and experience of others. Check out the Dual Battery and the Isolator threads in Outfitting for good examples.

-B-
 
Beowulf said:
I believe all 80's sold in the US came with 4.10 diff gearing.

-B-

Beowulf,


I expect you are right. There's a stateside LC100 in my neighborhood that I believe has gearing at 3.70 which is a surprise to me. I never thought there was a problem with the 4.11, but that LC100 leaves me far behind easily. His tires I think are only about 30" and it's a beauty. Maybe the driver is just faster than I am.

Regardless, I just thought they made some changes since my car came out and as my car is already 15 years old... ;)

OK so I made a mistake. :o



Kalawang
 
Bear80 said:
what did you think of the overall with that setup ?


As a street 80 , it will fare just fine . Never rubbed anywhere . Even the odd off camber paint fleck , or the renowned Starbucks™ curbs . To compensate for loss of power I strongly suggest the following . Install a Truspeed recallibrator . The writeup is on Slee's site . Once installed borrow a friends GPS and head to the hwy to callibrate your speedo perfectly . Set your cruise to 60 MPH , and then have a friend tweak the Truspeed control until the GPS reads 60 MPH also . Next drive always with your power button on , and advance on hills with the OD button off .

The only grudge with the 2.5 was the stinkbug attitude . If you experience with also , then install OME packers up front , or perhaps even the 1" Mr Gasket spacers . Measure mid hub to bottom of flares front and rear to determine what amount of spacer buildup you require . Also consider the weight of the eventual full size spare probably to be kept inside the truck and any other extraneous weight you will be carrying .

I loved this setup for close to 3 years ... only for street and light trails , but looked and felt great !


TY
 

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