33s vs 34s: Looking to View Options in Person - San Diego Area

[dudemancool1904]

Thank you for the offer! Could be cool to check it out in person! How do you like this option? Any concerns with tire weight/needing to regear?

Nah with the 8 speed and 3.30 gears it’s fine. Yes the coopers are heavier than the stock grandtreks (or G056’s in my case) but it’s not an enough of a difference for me to think about gears (yet). Another reason I went with the OEM TRD Pro wheels because they’re made by BBS Japan, forged aluminum, and 4-5 lbs lighter per corner than stock.
Let me know if you and Boston want to meet up and I’ll bring the parking lot beers.

 

[Boston Mangler]

Let me know if you and Boston want to meet up and I’ll bring the parking lot beers.

Amen

 

[TeCKis300]

Any concerns with the weight of 295s? After some quick research, I can only find E load options in the high 50 lbs. At that point, shouldn’t I just go with 285/75 r17s since I can find C load options in the high 50 lbs as well? Thanks!

Personally, I'm a stickler for weight, but not when it comes to tire weights when looking at an AT or more aggressive tire. The rubber and overall tire size serve a purpose with tread depth, traction, and puncture resistance over the life of the tire. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to reach for the heaviest, but definitely not chasing the lightest either. I'm looking for function first. I'll chase less unsprung weight in my sports car.

You're right there's not as much selection in this size and there isn't a LT-C. There is some choice even in LT-E as there are 121/118Q and 128/125S load range tires, with the former likely being somewhat more compliant.

The Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T or KO3s might be good options in this size.

 

[Evanike]

If you’re set on 17s I’d suggest the Icons that Slee offers

Or the Evo Course

Methods, although popular, are low quality, and I personally know 3 different people that have cracked them. Google Method wheels cracking. Yeah…

I’d prefer 17s and the option of Load C instead of E but I’m sticking with OEM 18” forged BBS for the weight/durability factor

Thank you, this is very helpful info. Didn't know that Methods were having this issue!

Did you go the 18" routh specifically because you wanted to run the OEM 18" forged BBS wheels, even with having to run the wheel spacers? Assuming that is why you didn't go the 17" wheel route with some offset?

Additionally, would you mind sharing what clip setting you are att with your bilstein 6112s? Did you have to also add their rear springs? Did you upgrade anything else like UCAs or was it a mild enough lift to not have to modify anything else front/rear suspension wise?

 

[Evanike]

Nah with the 8 speed and 3.30 gears it’s fine. Yes the coopers are heavier than the stock grandtreks (or G056’s in my case) but it’s not an enough of a difference for me to think about gears (yet). Another reason I went with the OEM TRD Pro wheels because they’re made by BBS Japan, forged aluminum, and 4-5 lbs lighter per corner than stock.
Let me know if you and Boston want to meet up and I’ll bring the parking lot beers.

I would love to check out yours and @Boston Manglers' trucks if you don't mind! I never considered 18-inch wheels as I always thought more rubber was better, hence the 17" direction, but I am definitely open to 18-inch wheels if you guys love them. I would ideally like to not have to run wheel spacers, so I am curious to see both of your setups since it sounds like you are not running the spacers. Sounds like @LC Mike has the same thing too, so opening the invite to him as well!

 

[Boston Mangler]

Thank you, this is very helpful info. Didn't know that Methods were having this issue!

Did you go the 18" routh specifically because you wanted to run the OEM 18" forged BBS wheels, even with having to run the wheel spacers? Assuming that is why you didn't go the 17" wheel route with some offset?

Additionally, would you mind sharing what clip setting you are att with your bilstein 6112s? Did you have to also add their rear springs? Did you upgrade anything else like UCAs or was it a mild enough lift to not have to modify anything else front/rear suspension wise?

I wanted to run the 18” BBS because I just prefer certain thing be OEM, and it doesn’t get much better than forged OEM.

I didn’t have to run wheel spacers, they actually fit 100% fine with zero rubbing, as @dudemancool1904 has mentioned.

Spacers were nothing more than aesthetics for me.

I went back and forth between these and the 17” OEM forged rock warriors. But those are getting exponentially harder to find in nice shape, and more expensive.

I’m on the 3rd clip because I wanted to keep OEM UCAs. I’m JUSTT barely out of perfectly alignment spec, so any more lift, would definitely need UCAs

 

[bj70bc]

just to throw a wrench....
something perhaps more important to consider is actual tire measured height, different brands are quite different for the same size rated tires....
bfg's run a size small, yokohamas seem to run 'true' or bigger, for example

 

[TeCKis300]

just to throw a wrench....
something perhaps more important to consider is actual tire measured height, different brands are quite different for the same size rated tires....
bfg's run a size small, yokohamas seem to run 'true' or bigger, for example

Yup, and this has an impact to weight, so sometimes chasing less weight means getting less tire FWIW.

 

[W4632018]

Nah with the 8 speed and 3.30 gears it’s fine. Yes the coopers are heavier than the stock grandtreks (or G056’s in my case) but it’s not an enough of a difference for me to think about gears (yet). Another reason I went with the OEM TRD Pro wheels because they’re made by BBS Japan, forged aluminum, and 4-5 lbs lighter per corner than stock.
Let me know if you and Boston want to meet up and I’ll bring the parking lot beers.

4-5 lb lighter per corner is pretty significant. Thanks for sharing, I’ll be looking into those!

 

[Evanike]

I wanted to run the 18” BBS because I just prefer certain thing be OEM, and it doesn’t get much better than forged OEM.

I didn’t have to run wheel spacers, they actually fit 100% fine with zero rubbing, as @dudemancool1904 has mentioned.

Spacers were nothing more than aesthetics for me.

I went back and forth between these and the 17” OEM forged rock warriors. But those are getting exponentially harder to find in nice shape, and more expensive.

I’m on the 3rd clip because I wanted to keep OEM UCAs. I’m JUSTT barely out of perfectly alignment spec, so any more lift, would definitely need UCAs

Very helpful. I checked out your build thread and think the wheels and tires for sure look better after the spacers were added.

Thank you for the info on the 6112s. Those are on my list of suspension options to look into, and I don't want to go above 2 inches and like that you were able to achieve 1.75 inches in the front. Besides the 5160s in the rear, is it stock? Are you still rocking the stock rear springs or aftermarket springs to get additional height? I removed the 3rd row seats and there is a nice rake to the truck now.

Final question! (really inspired by your build) did you ever consider Toyo Open Country AT3s in the 275/70 r18 size? I am seeing that they come in both 49lbs and 52lbs in that size and that seems too light to be true!

 

[Evanike]

I also realized I never shared any pics of the new rig! (I know we all love pictures haha)

 

[audi2nr]

nice pics! looks like my driveway! Can'wait to see what your footwork setup looks like, i'm going to follow suit with 275/70/18's. It seems like the best option for mostly on road duties

 

[Evanike]

nice pics! looks like my driveway! Can'wait to see what your footwork setup looks like, i'm going to follow suit with 275/70/18's. It seems like the best option for mostly on road dutiesView attachment 3806621

That’s my mom’s 80 series! Wish that was my driveway haha. Love the Lexus combo!

Hoping to see some of the guys vehicles here soon, I’m really leaning towards 285/75 r17s but I’m real curious to see the 275 set up

 

[SUJAL]

I have not chosen a 17” wheel yet, still rocking the stock 18” wheels. I have done minimal research (open to suggestions!) but so far I like method 703 or 705 (don’t know what offset to do yet - maybe something close to 25mm as I have heard that’s a good option to avoid KDSS issues?) also looking at Nomad Sahara wheels or even Evo Course wheels (very pricey though). Open to suggestions!

I ended up finding a used set of 18" BBS wheels, and will probably also go with a 1" Bora spacer as well, like Boston Mangler used with his.

As for other suggestions, during my research, I was looking into:
* Rock Warriors
* Icons (which are on sale right now)
* Evo Corse
* Braid Winrace S

 

[Boston Mangler]

Final question! (really inspired by your build) did you ever consider Toyo Open Country AT3s in the 275/70 r18 size?

Not really. Few friends have them, and although THEY love them, they are a bit too loud for me

 

[Boston Mangler]

@Evanike @dudemancool1904 and whoever else is in San Diego

I’ll be here around 8am or so, if ya wanna roll up, talk trucks and kick tires

There’s always a random mix of cool cars and trucks

@badsamaritan is often there too, and I think he’ll be in the 40 this week.

 

[dudemancool1904]

I’m more of a Rancho Santa Fe pinky sniffing cars and coffee type but I’ll try and cruise up Sunday morning.

 

[Boston Mangler]

I’m more of a Rancho Santa Fe pinky sniffing cars and coffee type but I’ll try and cruise up Sunday morning.

I tried going there once and someone called a tow truck because they thought my old 2010 pile was an abandoned vehicle relic

 

[Evanike]

@Evanike @dudemancool1904 and whoever else is in San Diego

I’ll be here around 8am or so, if ya wanna roll up, talk trucks and kick tires

There’s always a random mix of cool cars and trucks

@badsamaritan is often there too, and I think he’ll be in the 40 this week.


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Excellent, if you and @dudemancool1904 will be there, I’m in! I really want to see both of your set ups. How long do you two plan to be there?

 

[hoser]

just to throw a wrench....
something perhaps more important to consider is actual tire measured height, different brands are quite different for the same size rated tires....
bfg's run a size small, yokohamas seem to run 'true' or bigger, for example

Tire manufacturers measure tire diameter when at full/maximum pressure, no load and measured at the tallest point (usually center of tread not shoulder/edge). Often folks take a tape measure and measure their tires at half the pressure, loaded with the vehicle's weight and from floor to the tire edge/shoulder. Given the circumstances, you can easily deduct an inch from the manufacturers specifications. Now, take that into consideration, is the "tallest" tire at road/street pressure really the most important factor? If it was we would all run our tires at 80psi (or max pressure) off road.... and we don't.... or shouldn't.