300 series revealed?

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Toyota will re-write the narrative with the new 300 and ensure the cybertruck becomes irrelevant. Toyota is a big player globally, companies like tesla have stuck thier necks out and about to get em chopped.

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Over 300k Tesla Model 3s sold in 2019 and has some of the best safety, tech, performance and value of any car ever made, but I’m sure the whole Tesla thing is just a fad!
 
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Over 300k Tesla Model 3s sold in 2019 and has some of the best safety, tech, performance and value of any car ever made, but I’m sure the whole Tesla thing is just a fad!

Great lease vehicle but not selling well after. On one of the auctions I was watching with a buddy who owns dealership none of them sold.
 
It is interesting they may take the LX in a different direction. Maybe Lexus wants to compete with the Range Rover, Navigator and new Escalade. They would sell a lot more LX's if they did.
Isn’t this what everyone has been asking for ??? Stripped down cruiser...
 
It is interesting they may take the LX in a different direction. Maybe Lexus wants to compete with the Range Rover, Navigator and new Escalade. They would sell a lot more LX's if they did.

Not possible without a different chassis strategy. High performance SUVs want IRS. Even the Patrol (Y62) is independent F/R. As is the new Defender. Does make one wonder what will be the future of the 300. The benefits of a solid rear for a crawler are indisputable, but for a touring overlander there could be some benefits to IRS. And when was the last time you heard of a 200 breaking a CV? Seems they've got the durability thing pretty well licked.

If the Taco becomes a re-badged Hilux as the article speculates that would be a huge gain for the small Toyota pickup. The capacity (and performance) of the current Tacoma leave much wanting.
 
Isn’t this what everyone has been asking for ??? Stripped down cruiser...

The LC is the stripped down cruiser.

When you compare to what's out there today, 30k Kia's have more comprehensive levels of standard equipment. Any less and it would be agricultural. US cars sell on features, not core strength and capability. It'd be hard to decontent the LC enough to make it that much cheaper because all the cost and engineering is within the core of the vehicle.

My preference for the 300-series is to maintain course. The off-road and overlanding market is heating up and the Tacoma/4Runner/LC/GX/LX are prized for their strength in these uses. With the enthusiast crowd arguably recognizing the Land Cruiser series as being king in this role. Other full size SUVs are going to finishing school with their IRS rear suspensions to be more comfortable in different roles, leaving fewer true off-road worthy models around.

If Toyota/Lexus would actually put marketing dollars into their LC/LX. That is if they actually want to sell more which hasn't seemed to be the goal.

It's going to be a tough choice for me personally as I strongly believe in the 300-series and the Cybertruck. Difference is that the Cybertruck may have broader competency and performance that speaks to me. It could supplant the heavy lifting I need the cruiser for, and everyday performance and comfort. Potentially replacing 2 cars in my stable for 1.

We'll see where the 300-series goes.
 
I would call this a stripped down cruiser. Not even a cup holder, let alone a useless console fridge. And - GASP - a key! Oh the humanity! ;)

However, one could hope that a stripped down Land Cruiser might imply something with a model designator starting with a '7'.

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It is interesting they may take the LX in a different direction. Maybe Lexus wants to compete with the Range Rover, Navigator and new Escalade. They would sell a lot more LX's if they did.
Based on that writre up the changes are going to make my 2015 LX570 gonna go up in value
 
It's exceedingly rare to see that level of stripped out in any vehicle on the market. Lest it be a fleet or contractor grade pickup. And those have good cupholders.

IMO, the 79 is only put on a pedestal as it's unobtanium, with overlanding styling cred in spades. Watching AUS channels that feature the 79, they don't have good articulation. Poor ride comfort. Poor handling and turning radius. Diminutive size that's about what a 4runner is. What they do have is tractor levels of durability and ease of repair. With enough lockers, can be a goat off-road.
 
The LC is the stripped down cruiser.

When you compare to what's out there today, 30k Kia's have more comprehensive levels of standard equipment. Any less and it would be agricultural. US cars sell on features, not core strength and capability. It'd be hard to decontent the LC enough to make it that much cheaper because all the cost and engineering is within the core of the vehicle.

My preference for the 300-series is to maintain course. The off-road and overlanding market is heating up and the Tacoma/4Runner/LC/GX/LX are prized for their strength in these uses. With the enthusiast crowd arguably recognizing the Land Cruiser series as being king in this role. Other full size SUVs are going to finishing school with their IRS rear suspensions to be more comfortable in different roles, leaving fewer true off-road worthy models around.

If Toyota/Lexus would actually put marketing dollars into their LC/LX. That is if they actually want to sell more which hasn't seemed to be the goal.

It's going to be a tough choice for me personally as I strongly believe in the 300-series and the Cybertruck. Difference is that the Cybertruck may have broader competency and performance that speaks to me. It could supplant the heavy lifting I need the cruiser for, and everyday performance and comfort. Potentially replacing 2 cars in my stable for 1.

We'll see where the 300-series goes.
Insightful, I look at it like what Mercedes did back in the day their vehicles used to be tanks built to an engineering standard not profit motive and sales standards I think with our 200 series it’s the last of the breed that will be built to last 25 years in a third world country. I think they’ll end up going up in value!
 
Isn’t this what everyone has been asking for ??? Stripped down cruiser...


I'm probably not the norm but I don't want a stripped down cruiser. I like that fact that they are 90k new and over engineered. I like that toyota only sells 3-4K units per year in the US. Having a rare well built truck is part of the appeal for me and one of the reasons I don't buy a 4Runner or Tacoma.
 
One could still be exclusive at 30k units per year as was the case with the bigger 100 series delivery years. The problem with 3k sales volume is aftermarket support.
 
I'm probably not the norm but I don't want a stripped down cruiser. I like that fact that they are 90k new and over engineered. I like that toyota only sells 3-4K units per year in the US. Having a rare well built truck is part of the appeal for me and one of the reasons I don't buy a 4Runner or Tacoma.

This is exactly it. I love the "idea" of the new AT4 Yukon XL. It's EXACTLY what the Z71 Tahoe/Suburban should have been all along. Especially more true if it gets the diesel which the Z71 won't because of the front facia/intercooler issue. But in Houston I'll see one every five minutes and I probably won't be enthused about the quality after 120k miles, if that.

I like seeing a LC/LX and knowing the owner appreciates reliability and quality and not just the newest thing. I like seeing them and knowing they're more uncommon. The mileage stinks, and the Toyota dealer is a low-class experience, but it's built like a rolling bank vault, can take me where most stock vehicles can't go, and can tow my boat from storage to the water and back twice/year. The ONLY shortcoming that might drive a change is an expanding family. If they made a "stripped down version" that did all of the above, I'd probably be hard pressed to pass on it, but I'd probably be left wanting more. Especially at our price points.
 
The LC is the stripped down cruiser.

When you compare to what's out there today, 30k Kia's have more comprehensive levels of standard equipment. Any less and it would be agricultural.
Really depends. Agricultural? Ever drive a new Australia-market GX diesel with a manual transmission, hard plastic dash, no screens, etc? Agricultural. And they sell new for around USD$50k in Australia. Our US Market spec LC? Definitely not even close to ag-spec. Does it have all of the trendy soon to be out dated tech that a Kia has? Nope . You are paying for capability, reliability, and durability, not trendiness.

A stripped down LC won't sell in the US or Toyota would sell it. Heck, base model 4Runners, Tundras, and Tacomas don't sell either. Nor do work truck-spec Rams, Fords, or Chevys. We don't buy base model poverty spec vehicles in the US.
 
IMO, the 79 is only put on a pedestal as it's unobtanium, with overlanding styling cred in spades. Watching AUS channels that feature the 79, they don't have good articulation. Poor ride comfort. Poor handling and turning radius. Diminutive size that's about what a 4runner is. What they do have is tractor levels of durability and ease of repair. With enough lockers, can be a goat off-road.
I've spent a fair amount of time in 70 Series over the last 30 years. SWB, Wagons, 5 doors, trayback utes, and troopies. I wouldn't trade a 200 for one, but I would buy a Troopie as another fun vehicle for the fleet. Just would not want to have to drive it every day.
 
I would call this a stripped down cruiser. Not even a cup holder, let alone a useless console fridge. And - GASP - a key! Oh the humanity! ;)

However, one could hope that a stripped down Land Cruiser might imply something with a model designator starting with a '7'.

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I would never buy that
 
Toyota announced, in March of 2015, that they would discontinue the manufacturing of the Venza for the US market in June of 2015. Not sure how timing has worked with other Toyota discontinuations but the short three month gap could be telling of what to expect for the NA LC.
Amazing that no spy photos of any new LC variant have been published, although Toyota could easily stuff the V6 turbo in a current LC to test.
 
For many years I fought against the thought of a 100% battery operated vehicle simply because it changes the way we operate our vehicles. Today, with electric vehicles, road trips are slower, you have to plan in advance in addition to limiting your freedom (from a plug or infrastructure). I actually commend Toyota for trying the hydrogen angle as their whole goal seems to have been limiting the change in lifestyle from gas to electric. Thinking about it, we would have kept the same infrastructure (gas stations) and refueling would be somewhat similar to what it is today. If oil companies had to evolve to say relevant - hydrogen would be their key (which also leads me to think that developing a hydrogen vehicle is highly highly supported by oil companies planning for a shift for consumers). Unfortunate for them, electric seems to be ahead of this battle.

To think that Toyota hasn’t thought of this would be silly, I think their battery delivery technology is probably not far back from Tesla, however, there is still plenty of money to be made with out the large overhead costs that testla is facing by focusing on good ole’ fashion Dino fuel. Guaranteed an all gas Camry’s profit margin % would be double than its electric brother.

This rant is going long but it makes sense I promise.

Furthermore, jaguar presented their all electric option that by the numbers is similar to a Tesla but has been deemed a failure which has delayed Mercedes in introducing their all electric vehicles to the North American market. Tesla is ahead of the game with their autopilot which I think sets them apart from the competition- while this holds true, i think other auto manufactures already have the technology but their risk and liability is far greater than Tesla’s if their car decides to drive itself into a wall and catch on fire. Políticians gave Toyota a miserable time about a “sticky gas pedal” , couldn’t even imagine a self driving car that kills its occupants. Somehow, Tesla is held to a different standard despite multiple failures to their system .
NO way I will ever ride in a self driving vehicle--never, ever
 
NO way I will ever ride in a self driving vehicle--never, ever
How about an airliner?

'In the US, airlines require pilots to maintain manual oversight and control. Asian carriers, on the other hand require pilots to use autopilot as much as possible. “Asiana prohibits the first officer from landing the plane by flying it, it must be automated,” says Moss. “The captain is prohibited from manually flying above 3,000 feet.”
 

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