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looking nice Larry! Makes me want get a new one. did you order some sliders yet?

Thanks bud :), didn't order the sliders yet wanted to stop the bleeding for a bit I blew $4500 in a blink but they'll most definitely be on there before the Ouray trip. I'll be watching for any sales or deals to save shipping from now till May :) The wife asked this weekend when I was putting the sliders on it :cheers:
 
Poor Boy deck system 2.0 is looking good I just have to deck it, cut out the cubby holes and raptor line it. I also ordered the sliders from BAMF they had a one day 20% deal this week saved $130 and Spencer ordered a set too so we split the shipping.

2005 to 2016 Toyota Tacoma 96

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What model# of *rear* shocks are you guys running? I would like to get their specs and cross-reference them.
 
This is my setup now, I will swap the front coils out for the 887's and drop it down to the bottom notch on the 5100's, factory coils run at the 2.75 are rough and too much feedback in the steering. Spencer has the 887's and they ride well and will handle a winch and bumper. Will also shim the driver's rear leaf to get rid of the taco lean.

Front:
Allpro Upper Control Arms
Bilstein 5100s (set all the way to the top)
OEM TRD OR coils

Rear:
ATO shackle flip kit with HD shackles
Bilstein 5100 LT shocks (Bilstein B110 5100 Rear Shock Pair)
OEM 4 leaf pack with wheelers AAL
Allpro extend brake lines
Allpro Ubolt Flip kit
 
When I asked Dan what was the best riding coils for a set of 5100's at 2.5/3 inches of lift he replied with the below. If I didn't plan to run a hidden winch mount and winch I would try the 885's and spacer for the better ride. But the 887's ride nice enough for me.


The 887s are a good choice, or for a little smoother ride the 885s with a 10MM Enhancer Kit.



Dan

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Thanks Larry and Happy B-day.

I'm trying to find a good balance for the rear since it will be offroad sometimes and more often be pulling our boat or a small camper. I need something that gives me the best of both worlds so I'm thinking of adding air bags or the air shocks like I have on the chevy.
 
Larry, those are for 4-5" lifts. Do you find that they are correct or a little long? I only plan to get 1-2" increase in the rear and I'm worried that those specs will be too long for my application.
 
Larry, those are for 4-5" lifts. Do you find that they are correct or a little long? I only plan to get 1-2" increase in the rear and I'm worried that those specs will be too long for my application.

Your right they're a little long for your plans and I understand the air shock option what about a set of bags you can use to assist? My 13 came with the 3 leaf pack and wouldn't have held up well for me I bought Spencer's takeoff pack of his 15 that was a 4 leaf and added a 2inch AAL. I also have the shackle flip in the rear the shocks are a tad bit on the long side I'm at 3 - 3 1/2 inches of lift on the rear but they seem to flex well and I have the bumpstops to prevent me bending the shafts. When I start dragging a small adventure trailer I'm sure I'll have to swap out this spring solution for a Dakar set. It rides around every day with several hundred lbs of gear including the shell. Needless to say the ride in the rear is good its the front I'll be tweaking.
 
Update: Swapped in the 887's coils in the front Sunday, added the hanger bearing drop shims and last night I added the 1/2 inch spacer to the drivers rear leafspring to cure the Taco lean. So now it looks like this. Waiting on sliders to ship.

Front:
Allpro Upper Control Arms
Bilstein 5100s (set all the way at the bottom)
OME 887's

Rear:
ATO shackle flip kit with HD shackles
Bilstein 5100 LT shocks
OEM 4 leaf pack with wheelers 2' AAL
Allpro extend brake lines
Allpro Ubolt Flip kit with Timbren Bumpstops
Wheeler's 1/2 inch spacer for driver side rear leaf spring. (cure the Taco lean)
 
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Nice. I'm still working on the AIP delete. I performed the tundra bypass, but lights came on again today. So it doesn't work for the Tacoma or I installed a bad relay. I will troubleshoot more tonight.
 
Nice. I'm still working on the AIP delete. I performed the tundra bypass, but lights came on again today. So it doesn't work for the Tacoma or I installed a bad relay. I will troubleshoot more tonight.

Stay with it bud, look forward to hearing about your solution should we run into it.
 
My diagnoses of the P2442 code found that the bank 2 valve was stuck. Since this caused limp mode and very little power, the truck was undriveable without clearing the codes. Dealership wanted to charge $1728 for both valves and offered "free" labor. Only the 3yr/36,000 warranty covers these parts.

I looks like I've "fixed" it. Unfortunately, the Tundra bypass doesn't seem to work because the Secondary Air Injection system doesn't seem to only be triggered by temperature. It runs sometimes at start up even on warm days, it runs occasionally during driving, and occasionally when turning the engine off.

Without putting the system on a bench and testing the signals that are given by each device, I am unable to create something to fool the ECU. Instead, I opted to make the ECU think everything was normal, but remove the valves from the exposure to moisture and heat from the exhaust. At first, I tried isolating the system by blocking the inlet of the air pump and the outlet of the valves. I found that the system uses air pressure to determine when the system is working. It runs the pump with the valves open and continues to run it for a few seconds after they close. It expects to see little pressure when open and a spike when they close. If you wanted to fool this, you would have to really know your circuit logic.

In the end, I cleaned the valve and lubed it up to keep it from sticking. I removed the check valve from the exhaust port on the valve cover and replaced it with a block off plate. I used washers as spacers so that air had an escape route when the valves are open. Without the spacers, the system thought the valves were stuck.

If your valves have failed, you can try this. If your pump has failed, there is a less expensive Chevrolet blower you can use to replace it. If your system works fine, using block off plates and spacers MAY prevent it from failing in the future.

My next post will include the steps that worked and pictures.
 
Remove the valves by removing the attached hose clamps, wire harness connections, and 4 torx screws.
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Remove the check valves and gaskets underneath. These fill up with carbon and fail to seal allowing heat and condensation to reach the valves. This surely caused the failure. (In this picture, they were already cleaned with gaskets removed. They were completely black when I pulled them the first time.)
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The check valves are nothing more than a captured piece of copper film between stamped metal housings.
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Check valves removed.
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I found a suitable piece of metal for block offs and traced the shape of the valves onto it.
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Cut, drilled, and cleaned up until I had the desired shape/size.
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Pulled out some high-temp gasket maker.
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Sealed around each port and set block off plates in place.
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While those set up, I got to work on the valves. I shot some penetrating oil inside of the valve housings and worked them with a screw driver until they were moving freely. I also cleaned them up with some carb cleaner during this process.
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Once they were moving freely, I put some copper based anti-seize around the valves. You only need to get this between the valve seat and the valve, but my brush spread it everywhere when I was trying to put it where it needed to go. I held the valve open when a screwdriver while doing this.
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I had a pack of assorted washers, so I came up with enough to allow for about 1/8" between the block off plates and the valves. You will need 8 sets to make one space for each corner of the valves.
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I forgot to get a picture of the finished product, but you basically place the spacers under each corner of the valves before putting your torx screws back in. This allows the air to go somewhere and keeps the pressure sensors from throwing codes.

Doing this should isolate these valves from the exhaust that would eventually leak past the check valves.

As a bonus, this is the bottom of one of the block off plates after being installed for 2 days.
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I don't know how the check valves were meant to handle this kind of abuse. If I was to engineer a valve to go under these, it would be further down into the port and would be an electronically controlled butterfly valve.
 
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Carrier dropped off two sets of sliders yesterday Spencer ordered his already powder coated. I dropped mine off for powder coating this morning. Looks like quality fab work they are much lighter than my 80 sliders I hope these are just as solid.
 
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Making a list of shops that cater to the Taco's and 4-Runners DIY parts, bumpers, armor, suspension and one off products. I was well versed in the LC circles where to shop for needs and used parts but these shops supporting the Taco's, 4-Runners are new to me. I was putting together a list for myself and the next guy :) Who would you add to this list?


Relentless Fabrication – Bumpers, Armor and Tire Carrier Parts

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BAMF - Bay Area Metal Fabrication – Bumpers & Armor

Welcome to BAMF


Armor Tech Offroad – Bumpers & Armor, DIY parts, Shackle Flip Kit and HD Shackles

Welcome to Armor Tech Offroad - Armoring your off road adventures


All Pro Offroad – Bumpers, Armor & Suspension

All-Pro Off Road


Wheeler’s Offroad – Suspension & Accessories

Quality Off Road Parts & Accessories Since 1999


Trail-Gear Offroad – DIY parts, Bumpers, Armor & Accessories

Trail-Gear - Offroad Products and Accessories

Headstrong Offroad - Suspension and more. Marie is cool chick and htey have more than their website shows.

where to buy from
 
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A few things I want to rework with the Taco before the Ouray trip. Wire the fog lights to work with the high beams and wire the lockers to work in 2WD and 4HI like the 80. Here are some threads I found Taco World as a guide. Of course my preference will be to do them so they can be reversed back to stock whenever necessary :)

Fog Lights
ND4's Fog Light Anytime Mod... NO splicing, No Bending, 100% reversible

Locker - Option 1
Locker Mod- An Alternative - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

Option 2
Locker Anytime Mod for Dummies 2005 +
 
Looks like I have too much angle for the inner CV boots now. Did you guys encounter this issue and if so, how did you solve it? I think I'm going to stretch it and re-clamp.
 

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